Jalen Suggs vs. Jalen Green

mdenny · Post #81 » by **mdenny** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:03 am

mademan wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Wouldn’t be mad at Mobley but that means we’re still running out offense through Siakam and Fred

That is why we likely don't draft Mobley

If he falls to us, we obv do tho. He doesnt give the Raps the wing star they need, but nobody else in the draft does, and he still does have great 2 way potential. You take that and run

Yah....if mobley falls to us that would mean cade/green/suggs are off the table. You'd have to justify taking kuminga or barnes or mitchell over him and thats not happening.

WeTheNorth123 · Post #82 » by **WeTheNorth123** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:03 am

thats like asking me if i want to sleep with Margot Robbie or Prime Megan Fox

either ways i win

dgr81 · Post #83 » by **dgr81** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:03 am

vulture wrote:Scottie Barnes or giddey but between the two in the OP it’s Suggs for me

stop

BoBBo! · Post #84 » by **BoBBo!** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:04 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
Ivan Drago wrote:Whoever falls to us.. its really that simple.

That's what I like most about this pick. There is no stress.

I guarantee it'll be stressful from 8:00-8:30 pm on July 29th :lol:

DelAbbot · Post #85 » by **DelAbbot** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:04 am

mademan wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
There is no way we don't draft the BPA.

In the modern NBA in terms of impact on winning, guards & wings > big man. Factoring that in, then we likely stick with Green / Suggs as BPA over Mobley.

at number 4, thats now our choice, lol.

it's possible. HOU has an amateur GM, CLE is a perennial bad picker - they could go for Davion Mitchell and Kuminga or a post-combine hyped Scottie Barnes.

Preliudas · Post #86 » by **Preliudas** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:05 am

I think Suggs is better option for Toronto

h4rrison · Post #87 » by **h4rrison** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:05 am

NotMyKawhi wrote:I'm trying to trade FVV for Turner

What's the appeal with Turner? I think his game is pretty mediocre and his team defense isn't so great. There's a reason he's always on the trading block. Would much rather keep FVV.

canada_dry · Post #88 » by **canada_dry** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:13 am

We're drafting the best player in college ball boys. Incredible.

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Marty_Budda · Post #89 » by **Marty_Budda** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:14 am

I feel like Suggs’ game will be so good with nba level spacing.

Merit · Post #90 » by **Merit** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:17 am

I’m also team Mobley. I feel as though Suggs could fall too, depending on what Cleveland decides to do with their two point guards.

mdenny · Post #91 » by **mdenny** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:19 am

A little perspective exercise for all the FVV deniers:

The 4th overall pick in fred's draft class= Dragan Bender

4th overall 2017 = josh jackson
4th overall 2018 = Jaren Jackson
4th overall 2019 = De'andre Hunter
4th overall 2020 = Patrick Williams.

Note...none of these players have garnered an mvp fimals vote, none have or will sniff a 50 point game, none have established perrenial top 5 positions in steals/blocks....but perhaps most importantly, none of them are the illest.

TimberFrog · Post #92 » by **TimberFrog** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:19 am

What if Masai drafts Kuminga, that scares me a bit

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canz55 · Post #93 » by **canz55** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:21 am

Am I the only guy who isn't high on Suggs?

We also sacrifice Malachi ball-time bringing him here and I don't really want to trade Flynn. He's going to turn into a good player who'll be too good to have off the bench.

Ducksplatt · Post #94 » by **Ducksplatt** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:22 am

Trade #4 for Ben Simmons

Nah

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WeTheNorth123 · Post #95 » by **WeTheNorth123** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:23 am

canz55 wrote:Am I the only guy who isn't high on Suggs?

We also sacrifice Malachi ball-time bringing him here and I don't really want to trade Flynn. He's going to turn into a good player who'll be too good to have off the bench.

When you have a prospect like Suggs, you dont even think about FLynn

I honestly like all of the top 4 picks, ill even say top 5 with Kuminga.....after that it's a huge drop for me

mdenny · Post #96 » by **mdenny** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:24 am

TDotAllStar wrote:I am not sure but from what I know about Green he gives me Andrew Wiggins vibes. An amazing athlete and can score seemingly at will and I hope it translates but I see a player who’s skill set seems more likely to translate in Suggs. I think Suggs a better pick but Green definitely has amazing star potential.

Thats exactly my feeling too but i diddnt think to mention wiggins as a comparison.

I get the sense green is either going to be VERY good or VERY underwhelming and nothing in between. Suggs is the sure thing imo. I want the high iq guy.

Raps in 4 · Post #97 » by **Raps in 4** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:24 am

TimberFrog wrote:What if Masai drafts Kuminga, that scares me a bit

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I was thinking about this too. Like when BC drafted Bargs because of his Euro fetish. I have faith in Masai though.

720 · Post #98 » by **720** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:26 am

mdenny wrote:A little perspective exercise for all the FVV deniers:

The 4th overall pick in fred's draft class= Dragan Bender

4th overall 2017 = josh jackson
4th overall 2018 = Jaren Jackson
4th overall 2019 = De'andre Hunter
4th overall 2020 = Patrick Williams.

Note...none of these players have garnered an mvp fimals vote, none have or will sniff a 50 point game, none have established perrenial top 5 positions in steals/blocks....but perhaps most importantly, none of them are the illest.

This draft class is better than all of those.

kalel123 · Post #99 » by **kalel123** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:27 am

TimberFrog wrote:What if Masai drafts Kuminga, that scares me a bit

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This could happen.

But from what I've read during my brief research on prospects, sounds like he'll take longer to develop and I don't know if Raptors management would think they have the time to wait on him to develop.

Will just have to trust that they know what they are doing whatever the case.

For now, I feel fine with Raptors taking whoever drops in top 4. They all look like fine prospects in their own right and everyone has their own weaknesses.

mdenny · Post #100 » by **mdenny** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:28 am

WeTheNorth123 wrote:
canz55 wrote:Am I the only guy who isn't high on Suggs?

We also sacrifice Malachi ball-time bringing him here and I don't really want to trade Flynn. He's going to turn into a good player who'll be too good to have off the bench.

When you have a prospect like Suggs, you dont even think about FLynn

I honestly like all of the top 4 picks, ill even say top 5 with Kuminga.....after that it's a huge drop for me

Yah. There will be no problem playing suggs/fred/flynn as our rotating guards. All of them are high iq. They'll figure it out.
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This might mean kyle is gone for sure though.

Who do we get at #4