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Raps in 4 wrote:TheBoi10 wrote:Raps should be all over this, we need the huge upgrade in talent
He's a talented defender, but that's it. Do we want to pay $33-40 million/year over the next 4 years for a defensive specialist?
phanman wrote:With Freddy as a building block, he covers a lot of the playmaking deficiencies of FVV and if there is one thing he is really good at it is getting his teammates great 3pt looks. Considering we finished the season 4th in 3PM/3PA he'd fit in well as there wouldn't be a plodding center on the block to muck up things for him. A defensive rotation of possibly Fred, OG, Simmons and Pascal is scary.
That said, I don't see an realistic trade that would be mutually beneficial. We aren't trading Pascal for Simmons and deal based on Lowry really isn't all that intriguing consider he is a free agent.
Morris_Shatford wrote:As our FO isn't known for its leaks, I suspect this is coming from the Philly side.
If they are serious about moving on from Simmons and the only offer we have seen out in the wild that they supposedly rejected was Brogdan, Warren, and a FRP they are going to want to have as much perceived interest as possible to do much better than that.
I am sure the Raps have done some due diligence, but I don't put too much stock into our interest.
OakleyDokely wrote:This board freaks out when Siakam misses a 3. Imagine when Simmons shoots 30% from the line in the playoffs.
Parataxis wrote:phanman wrote:With Freddy as a building block, he covers a lot of the playmaking deficiencies of FVV and if there is one thing he is really good at it is getting his teammates great 3pt looks. Considering we finished the season 4th in 3PM/3PA he'd fit in well as there wouldn't be a plodding center on the block to muck up things for him. A defensive rotation of possibly Fred, OG, Simmons and Pascal is scary.
That said, I don't see an realistic trade that would be mutually beneficial. We aren't trading Pascal for Simmons and deal based on Lowry really isn't all that intriguing consider he is a free agent.
He's a free agent but, unless Philly finds a team who is taking Simmons into their cap space (won't happen) they don't really have many other options for both trading Simmons and signing Lowry. The only other way would be to send~20-25mill in contacts to Toronto in exchange, and why does Toronto do that?
OakleyDokely wrote:This board freaks out when Siakam misses a 3. Imagine when Simmons shoots 30% from the line in the playoffs.
DreamTeam09 wrote:Morris_Shatford wrote:As our FO isn't known for its leaks, I suspect this is coming from the Philly side.
If they are serious about moving on from Simmons and the only offer we have seen out in the wild that they supposedly rejected was Brogdan, Warren, and a FRP they are going to want to have as much perceived interest as possible to do much better than that.
I am sure the Raps have done some due diligence, but I don't put too much stock into our interest.
I don't see them getting a better package than that. Brogdan & Warren fit in seamlessly into philly line-up while providing some some of the guard defense ben provided while adding the outside / scoring threat of both brogdan and warren.
Minny is offering Rubio + Beasley + FRP which is similar value
OakleyDokely wrote:This board freaks out when Siakam misses a 3. Imagine when Simmons shoots 30% from the line in the playoffs.
vulture wrote:If Simmons is coming here, pascal has to be going the other way imo or you trade him to Golden State for Wiseman and picks.
I can't see Simmons and Pascal playing together since there will be no spacing on the floor.
phanman wrote:Parataxis wrote:phanman wrote:With Freddy as a building block, he covers a lot of the playmaking deficiencies of FVV and if there is one thing he is really good at it is getting his teammates great 3pt looks. Considering we finished the season 4th in 3PM/3PA he'd fit in well as there wouldn't be a plodding center on the block to muck up things for him. A defensive rotation of possibly Fred, OG, Simmons and Pascal is scary.
That said, I don't see an realistic trade that would be mutually beneficial. We aren't trading Pascal for Simmons and deal based on Lowry really isn't all that intriguing consider he is a free agent.
He's a free agent but, unless Philly finds a team who is taking Simmons into their cap space (won't happen) they don't really have many other options for both trading Simmons and signing Lowry. The only other way would be to send~20-25mill in contacts to Toronto in exchange, and why does Toronto do that?
OKC can easily absorb Simmons for the price of a FRP, they do have options if they are just looking to unload him.
Lowry could also just opt to sign for the MLE. I know Lowry has aspirations of getting 20m, but do you realistically see any team out there that is willing to give a 35yo PG that much money even with his production? He gives up money to go home and play on a championship contender with an MVP candidate.
vulture wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:MadDogSHWA wrote:With Lowry the Sixers are in the finals right now. Philly would make that trade we don't need sweeteners.
With Embiid, Simmons, and Lowry they are in the finals. Not with just Embiid and Lowry though.
There is absolutely no way Philly does that. they wouldn't trade for Thybulle and Maxey for Lowry at the deadline and they can find a better deal than that elsewhere.
goinrogue wrote:vulture wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:
With Embiid, Simmons, and Lowry they are in the finals. Not with just Embiid and Lowry though.
There is absolutely no way Philly does that. they wouldn't trade for Thybulle and Maxey for Lowry at the deadline and they can find a better deal than that elsewhere.
Voice of reason right here guys. Philly would ask for multiple first including our number 4 this year plus Kyle. Did you just throw up? Me too. So enough.