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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#81 » by rapluva » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:18 pm

Perry is coming back to the 905 unless he gets signed with another team... Gillespie is apparently the property of the Grizzlies farm team .. so not sure if he will be back with the 905...

I think it might be Bonga and Wainwright...but Wainwright has age against him . .. and Dekker would have be cut buy made the coaches think a bit based on his performance yesterday.
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Post#82 » by aligator » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:20 pm

Wainright brings more to the table than Bonga. Team altready has a lot of youth.
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Post#83 » by Dennis 37 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:35 pm

Zeno wrote:It is pretty clear that some folks don't want Dekker on the team based on the word of Jr Smith and his propensity to wear footwear on sofas.


True enough. I just can't get over the shoes on the sofa. If he were to address that situation and realize that's not how we act in Canada, I would feel better. The damage to team cohesion would be significant if they dropped in on Banton's mom and Dekker was to leave his shoes on in the house.

As for the other stuff, I don't put a lot into one source. Do I hear anything like this from any one else?

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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#84 » by Elmago » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:50 pm

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Zeno wrote:It is pretty clear that some folks don't want Dekker on the team based on the word of Jr Smith and his propensity to wear footwear on sofas.


True enough. I just can't get over the shoes on the sofa. If he were to address that situation and realize that's not how we act in Canada, I would feel better. The damage to team cohesion would be significant if they dropped in on Banton's mom and Dekker was to leave his shoes on in the house.

As for the other stuff, I don't put a lot into one source. Do I hear anything like this from any one else?

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Yeah, JR probably just didn't like him and was BS-ing, people gotta stop using that against him
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#85 » by MonkBatter42 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:54 pm

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Boselecta wrote:
ash_k wrote:Experience? He was out the league the last 2 years.
Last season was the first time that he shot very well from 3, but that was in Europe
Both Svi and Bonga have started more NBA games than he has and are both much younger.

Dekker's profile as a player does not fit compared to Svi, Bonga and others. Unless he has some hidden defensive skills we are not aware of.


I thought Svi is already a lock which is why I didn't include him. When I say experience I mean the more polished player, one that could step in and provide if we needed him in a emergency injury situation. I like Bonga but he seems very raw would like to see him developed in the g-league for a season or two.


Step in? He has been out of the league 2 years for a reason. Don't forget the ONLY selling point when we signed him (as it was a surprising one) was "he shot 40+% from 3p in Europe". I just cant see where he fits with this team. He cant play ahead 10th/11th man like Yuta and others


According to your logic, PJ Tucker and Anthony Parker, who were both out of the league for 6 years apiece, should never have made it back to the NBA, because they were out of the league for a combined 12 years "for a reason".
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#86 » by ash_k » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:56 pm

Zeno wrote:It is pretty clear that some folks don't want Dekker on the team based on the word of Jr Smith and his propensity to wear footwear on sofas.

So you think if he was playing like Precious or Barnes(or Svi), folks would want him out of the team?
He has been out of the league 2 years, he is a 15th man at best, he is 27 and he absolutely sucks (The Rocks voice). I will go with lengthy defenders, with PG skills and much younger players like Bonga over that kind of player any day.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#87 » by ash_k » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:10 pm

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ash_k wrote:
Boselecta wrote:
I thought Svi is already a lock which is why I didn't include him. When I say experience I mean the more polished player, one that could step in and provide if we needed him in a emergency injury situation. I like Bonga but he seems very raw would like to see him developed in the g-league for a season or two.


Step in? He has been out of the league 2 years for a reason. Don't forget the ONLY selling point when we signed him (as it was a surprising one) was "he shot 40+% from 3p in Europe". I just cant see where he fits with this team. He cant play ahead 10th/11th man like Yuta and others


According to your logic, PJ Tucker and Anthony Parker, who were both out of the league for 6 years apiece, should never have made it back to the NBA, because they were out of the league for a combined 12 years "for a reason".

According to your logic, players like PJ Tucker and Anthony Parker can be compared to Badger Dekker(or his former teammate Kaminsky) then we are not talking about the same sport really.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#88 » by johanliebert » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:14 pm

alienchild wrote:If Colangelo was the GM, Dekker would be signing for 3yr/21 million. Fortunately Masai is in charge. Bonga and Wainwright make it.

As if masai didn’t sign Demarre Carrol lol.
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Post#89 » by Zeno » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:15 pm

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Zeno wrote:It is pretty clear that some folks don't want Dekker on the team based on the word of Jr Smith and his propensity to wear footwear on sofas.

So you think if he was playing like Precious or Barnes(or Svi), folks would want him out of the team?
He has been out of the league 2 years, he is a 15th man at best, he is 27 and he absolutely sucks (The Rocks voice). I will go with lengthy defenders, with PG skills and much younger players like Bonga over that kind of player any day.

It was more of a joke than anything else. But as far as skill-wise, I think the team needs shooting to facilitate the development of the higher value prospects rather than another lesser skilled prospect with similar short comings. The team won't have rights to either Bonga or Dekker if they perform well this year. Their ages are less relevant to me given that. So I think Dekker creates a possibly better development situation for the players I care about developing.
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Post#90 » by akakalakin » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:17 pm

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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#91 » by bon » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:19 pm

C_Money wrote:
bon wrote:Is one fluke shooting game really enough to save Dekker a spot? He's never really displayed that shot making ability in his life plus he's not much of a defender.

He shot 45% from 3 in Europe last year.

That was mostly as a spot up shooter on a shorter line though. I'm talking about the Curry range 3s and fadeways from deep which weren't part of his arsenal before last night
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#92 » by ash_k » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:27 pm

Zeno wrote:
ash_k wrote:
Zeno wrote:It is pretty clear that some folks don't want Dekker on the team based on the word of Jr Smith and his propensity to wear footwear on sofas.

So you think if he was playing like Precious or Barnes(or Svi), folks would want him out of the team?
He has been out of the league 2 years, he is a 15th man at best, he is 27 and he absolutely sucks (The Rocks voice). I will go with lengthy defenders, with PG skills and much younger players like Bonga over that kind of player any day.

It was more of a joke than anything else. But as far as skill-wise, I think the team needs shooting to facilitate the development of the higher value prospects rather than another lesser skilled prospect with similar short comings. The team won't have rights to either Bonga or Dekker if they perform well this year. Their ages are less relevant to me given that. So I think Dekker creates a possibly better development situation for the players I care about developing.

FVV|Dragic
GTj|Svi
OG |Barnes
Siakam| Precious
Birch| Boucher

Flynn | Yuta .....Dekker would be getting DNP-CDs at 27

FVV + GTj + OG+Dragic+Svi+Boucher+Flynn can all shoot the 3 at a high-clip. That's 7 players. And Yuta shot 40% from 3 last season. No need to worry about development situation for the players you care about developing.
We want lengthy defenders first, with skills, to further develop (Bonga fits the bill perfectly).
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#93 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:34 pm

ash_k wrote:
Zeno wrote:It is pretty clear that some folks don't want Dekker on the team based on the word of Jr Smith and his propensity to wear footwear on sofas.

So you think if he was playing like Precious or Barnes(or Svi), folks would want him out of the team?
He has been out of the league 2 years, he is a 15th man at best, he is 27 and he absolutely sucks (The Rocks voice). I will go with lengthy defenders, with PG skills and much younger players like Bonga over that kind of player any day.


Why? Bonga needs reps in 905 or elsewhere. He'll get jack as player #15 as a guard. With Dekker he is injury insurance for bigs with solid shooting. I think it is Ish and Dekker as Euro pros and Bonga gets the logical Boucher 905 treatment.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#94 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:39 pm

ash_k wrote:
Zeno wrote:
ash_k wrote:So you think if he was playing like Precious or Barnes(or Svi), folks would want him out of the team?
He has been out of the league 2 years, he is a 15th man at best, he is 27 and he absolutely sucks (The Rocks voice). I will go with lengthy defenders, with PG skills and much younger players like Bonga over that kind of player any day.

It was more of a joke than anything else. But as far as skill-wise, I think the team needs shooting to facilitate the development of the higher value prospects rather than another lesser skilled prospect with similar short comings. The team won't have rights to either Bonga or Dekker if they perform well this year. Their ages are less relevant to me given that. So I think Dekker creates a possibly better development situation for the players I care about developing.

FVV|Dragic
GTj|Svi
OG |Barnes
Siakam| Precious
Birch| Boucher

Flynn | Yuta .....Dekker would be getting DNP-CDs at 27

FVV + GTj + OG+Dragic+Svi+Boucher+Flynn can all shoot the 3 at a high-clip. That's 7 players. And Yuta shot 40% from 3 last season. No need to worry about development situation for the players you care about developing.
We want lengthy defenders first, with skills, to further develop (Bonga fits the bill perfectly).


Bonga is a Deer caught in the headlights as #15 on the roster. Pay him his guarantee and 905 money to develop. Otherwise he sit half or more of season.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#95 » by ash_k » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:45 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
ash_k wrote:
Zeno wrote:It was more of a joke than anything else. But as far as skill-wise, I think the team needs shooting to facilitate the development of the higher value prospects rather than another lesser skilled prospect with similar short comings. The team won't have rights to either Bonga or Dekker if they perform well this year. Their ages are less relevant to me given that. So I think Dekker creates a possibly better development situation for the players I care about developing.

FVV|Dragic
GTj|Svi
OG |Barnes
Siakam| Precious
Birch| Boucher

Flynn | Yuta .....Dekker would be getting DNP-CDs at 27

FVV + GTj + OG+Dragic+Svi+Boucher+Flynn can all shoot the 3 at a high-clip. That's 7 players. And Yuta shot 40% from 3 last season. No need to worry about development situation for the players you care about developing.
We want lengthy defenders first, with skills, to further develop (Bonga fits the bill perfectly).


Bonga is a Deer caught in the headlights as #15 on the roster. Pay him his guarantee and 905 money to develop. Otherwise he sit half or more of season.

NN did say, some players will be doing a lot of back-and-forth with 905: Those players sounded very much like Banton, Champagnie and Bonga.
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Post#96 » by gojoorange » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:55 pm

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ash_k wrote:
Zeno wrote:It was more of a joke than anything else. But as far as skill-wise, I think the team needs shooting to facilitate the development of the higher value prospects rather than another lesser skilled prospect with similar short comings. The team won't have rights to either Bonga or Dekker if they perform well this year. Their ages are less relevant to me given that. So I think Dekker creates a possibly better development situation for the players I care about developing.

FVV|Dragic
GTj|Svi
OG |Barnes
Siakam| Precious
Birch| Boucher

Flynn | Yuta .....Dekker would be getting DNP-CDs at 27

FVV + GTj + OG+Dragic+Svi+Boucher+Flynn can all shoot the 3 at a high-clip. That's 7 players. And Yuta shot 40% from 3 last season. No need to worry about development situation for the players you care about developing.
We want lengthy defenders first, with skills, to further develop (Bonga fits the bill perfectly).


Bonga is a Deer caught in the headlights as #15 on the roster. Pay him his guarantee and 905 money to develop. Otherwise he sit half or more of season.


The only way Bonga can play for the 905 is if he makes the main squad and agrees to G-League time. His guarantee is too large to sign directly with the 905.
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Post#97 » by aligator » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:02 pm

Jay Huff waived by Wizards. There was interest on here for him at draft time.
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Post#98 » by Zeno » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:07 pm

aligator wrote:Jay Huff waived by Wizards. There was interest on here for him at draft time.

Jay Huff was on a Wiz exhibit 10 deal so he is likely signing with the Wiz’s g league team.
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Post#99 » by WaltFrazier » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:29 am

ash_k wrote:
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ash_k wrote:After they let Dekker emptied the clip like it was Kobe's Utah. It will be surprising if he stays.


Yeah. To me it looked an agent special - showcase my client so he can get an opportunity somewhere else.

Yep, for me that's all it was. I saw the way Banton hugged him like he knew. will see


A 2nd round Canadian rookie "knew"? Is in the know about player moves?

I lean more to what Malachi said in his postgame interview, something about when Sam got so hot it got the rest of us going.

I don't get why Nurse didn't give Dekker the same minutes in all the games. Then at least you'd have an idea if he can sustain that kind of shooting. Not that kind of insane hot stretch but steady and consistent 3-shooting. because the team could really use that kind of shooting.
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Post#100 » by WaltFrazier » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:40 am

C_Money wrote:
bon wrote:Is one fluke shooting game really enough to save Dekker a spot? He's never really displayed that shot making ability in his life plus he's not much of a defender.

He shot 45% from 3 in Europe last year.


Right, plus you don't know if the Wizard game was a fluke unless he had played that much in the other games and shot poorly. This was Dekker's only extended run and he came up huge. Can't ask for more than that under that kind of pressure.

Also he hit a clutch 3 against the Celtics.
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