[Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy

mtcan · Post #81 » by **mtcan** » Tue May 31, 2022 3:50 pm

Jake Fischer did nail the Nate Bjorkgren stuff last season and the fact that he'd be back with Nick Nurse. He also nailed the Barnes pick.

He isn't always wrong. No need to dump on him like some other hacks in the media.

dTox · Post #82 » by **dTox** » Tue May 31, 2022 3:52 pm

This is a fluff piece, but I'll bite: only way I trade OG is for a top 5 pick in this draft, and if he is really unhappy about his touches, then we move Trent or Fred because OG should be a significantly higher priority asset to us than either players.

ReggieSlater · Post #83 » by **ReggieSlater** » Tue May 31, 2022 3:53 pm

Teams are interested in a valuable player on a reasonable contract. Nice writeup.

tecumseh18 · Post #84 » by **tecumseh18** » Tue May 31, 2022 3:58 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:For me OG is the odd man out between Barnes/OG/Siakam....They just can't play together since they all play the same positions ....With OG And Barnes in the lineup Siakam is forced to be playing C since you have FVV/GTJr....And Siakam at C makes 0 sense for us ...

Not sure if the Raps see it that way. OG covers the C pretty often. How many dreadnought Cs were seeing significant minutes in the WCF/ECF?

But the main issue is that Fred and Pascal are now firmly in their primes and are All-star/All-NBA players. You gotta support them. To trade OG for a FRP makes no sense for a competitive team (like the Raptors).

DelAbbot · Post #85 » by **DelAbbot** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:01 pm

Long Bois = OG + SB + PS + PA

trade the chuckers

brownbobcat · Post #86 » by **brownbobcat** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:01 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:I think this is more trade chatter than actual player discontent.

We are crowded at the forward spots, so of course this will come up.

I would love a Gobert trade, but I don’t think we can compete with a Warriors offer for Gobert. They can offer Wiggins / Wiseman / Kuminga.

I'm not really sure how it's that crowded considering how Toronto plays. OG/Precious guard 1-5 without much difficulty. Barnes and Siakam fare a little poorer vs. speedy PGs.

OG played more minutes/game last year than Giannis has since 2018. I'd like to see player around 34 MPG or less during the regular season. If we're talking shots, that's a different story - I would hope people can set their ego aside to win.

DelAbbot · Post #87 » by **DelAbbot** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:02 pm

Kreamy wrote:Josh Hart and #7 for OG should be an easy yes for us. I hope we're not overrating our talent.

NO way. Don't trade down - trade up. OG is only getting moved (in a package) for a Kawhi level player in return

DarkXaero · Post #88 » by **DarkXaero** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:06 pm

mtcan wrote:Jake Fischer did nail the Nate Bjorkgren stuff last season and the fact that he'd be back with Nick Nurse. He also nailed the Barnes pick.

He isn't always wrong. No need to dump on him like some other hacks in the media.

Also as a Nets fan, I was wrong on Jake Fischer because he reported stuff that I didn't want to hear as a Nets fan (was basically the first person in media to break that Harden wanted to leave the Nets for Sixers). He ended up being right then as well. I wouldn't dismiss Fischer as a hack, he does have legitimate sources.

kirkwood · Post #89 » by **kirkwood** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:12 pm

I like Fred, warrior and heart of gold, loves Toronto but he is no longer a good fit on a team that wants to go big across the board, 1 through 5. The league is shifting, like the Raptors, having line ups of 6'8"-6'9" players at all positions. This makes Fred a liability, for sure on the defensive end.

I would keep OG because he fits that thought process and creates the flexibility they are looking for, sell high on Fred coming off an All Star year and get yourself a bigger point guard and athletic 7 footer in the offseason market/trade market.

Really, Barnes or Trent can play point, keeping OG as a quality workhorse starting 3

ATLTimekeeper · Post #90 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:14 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:For me OG is the odd man out between Barnes/OG/Siakam....They just can't play together since they all play the same positions ....With OG And Barnes in the lineup Siakam is forced to be playing C since you have FVV/GTJr....And Siakam at C makes 0 sense for us ...

Not sure if the Raps see it that way. OG covers the C pretty often. How many dreadnought Cs were seeing significant minutes in the WCF/ECF?

But the main issue is that Fred and Pascal are now firmly in their primes and are All-star/All-NBA players. You gotta support them. To trade OG for a FRP makes no sense for a competitive team (like the Raptors).

Josh Hart is pretty much the same age as Fred and Pascal. We should expect Trent, Precious and Barnes to get a little bit better. Keep in mind this team was competitive with OG missing half of this season.

douggood · Post #91 » by **douggood** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:14 pm

DarkXaero wrote:
mtcan wrote:Jake Fischer did nail the Nate Bjorkgren stuff last season and the fact that he'd be back with Nick Nurse. He also nailed the Barnes pick.

He isn't always wrong. No need to dump on him like some other hacks in the media.
Also as a Nets fan, I was wrong on Jake Fischer because he reported stuff that I didn't want to hear as a Nets fan (was basically the first person in media to break that Harden wanted to leave the Nets for Sixers). He ended up being right then as well. I wouldn't dismiss Fischer as a hack, he does have legitimate sources.

jake fisher was a breakout star last summer. he is one of a few people i have notifications on for. dont let BR credentials fool you.

douggood · Post #92 » by **douggood** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:15 pm

Another center that’s been linked to the Raptors’ search for a big man by league sources: Deandre Ayton.

Read on Twitter

goinrogue · Post #93 » by **goinrogue** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:16 pm

kirkwood wrote:I like Fred, warrior and heart of gold, loves Toronto but he is no longer a good fit on a team that wants to go big across the board, 1 through 5. The league is shifting, like the Raptors, having line ups of 6'8"-6'9" players at all positions. This makes Fred a liability, for sure on the defensive end.

I would keep OG because he fits that thought process and creates the flexibility they are looking for, sell high on Fred coming off an All Star year and get yourself a bigger point guard and athletic 7 footer in the offseason market/trade market.

I kind of have a theory that one of the core will be traded but it will end up being Fred for all the reasons you just mentioned but whenever I say that to friends I get laughed at. For good reason, they do seem to love Fred. But you’re right, he doesn’t fit the long switchable lineup at all and I don’t think he can ever really improve that
Much given his lack of size and athleticism. They tout his leadership and heart but sometimes you need to take a few steps back to take a giant leap forward.

bon · Post #94 » by **bon** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:17 pm

Pure clickbait BS. Can’t believe I even worried a little lol. OG is quiet as hell he’s definitely not leaking to some hacks that he’s jealous for a bigger role

mtcan · Post #95 » by **mtcan** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:17 pm

douggood wrote:
Another center that’s been linked to the Raptors’ search for a big man by league sources: Deandre Ayton.

Read on Twitter

OG for Ayton makes sense as well. He is an upgrade over Jae Crowder who has 1 year left on his contract.

Having OG and Mikal Bridges makes them an awesome defensive team.

Post #96 » by **DG88** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:22 pm

Interesting and here we thought the offseason would be boring lol.

It's still speculation but Fisher has been right on a couple of the rumours from his sources in the past so I wouldn't completely dismiss it. If you're trading OG then you want to make sure you get a good haul for it. We need depth and add to the young talent on the bench as the next iteration of the team. The focus for the FO is to build around Scottie, he's the future of the team so any moves they make has to have him in mind.

Badonkadonk · Post #97 » by **Badonkadonk** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:30 pm

mtcan wrote:Jake Fischer did nail the Nate Bjorkgren stuff last season and the fact that he'd be back with Nick Nurse. He also nailed the Barnes pick.

He isn't always wrong. No need to dump on him like some other hacks in the media.

Sometimes he has sources, sometimes he doesn't. In this case, he admits right in the article that nobody told B/R anything about OG wanting out, our about the Raptors shopping him. It's 100% made up.

Also, he throws out TONS of these pieces. Getting to claim he was right on some % of them is an old trick in journalism.

RapsFanInOhio · Post #98 » by **RapsFanInOhio** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:35 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:
mtcan wrote:Jake Fischer did nail the Nate Bjorkgren stuff last season and the fact that he'd be back with Nick Nurse. He also nailed the Barnes pick.

He isn't always wrong. No need to dump on him like some other hacks in the media.

Sometimes he has sources, sometimes he doesn't. In this case, he admits right in the article that nobody told B/R anything about OG wanting out, our about the Raptors shopping him. It's 100% made up.

Also, he throws out TONS of these pieces. Getting to claim he was right on some % of them is an old trick in journalism.

It’s hard to make something up when you straight up say that OG hasn’t directly said he wants out or is upset - he’s just reporting, as he says, that rival executives suspect that OG might be upset. Then he says pretty clearly that the executives may just be trying to get OG. I don’t know how you can criticize him for this. He doesn’t make any extreme claims here.

OakleyDokely · Post #99 » by **OakleyDokely** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:36 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:
mtcan wrote:Jake Fischer did nail the Nate Bjorkgren stuff last season and the fact that he'd be back with Nick Nurse. He also nailed the Barnes pick.

He isn't always wrong. No need to dump on him like some other hacks in the media.

Sometimes he has sources, sometimes he doesn't. In this case, he admits right in the article that nobody told B/R anything about OG wanting out, our about the Raptors shopping him. It's 100% made up.

Also, he throws out TONS of these pieces. Getting to claim he was right on some % of them is an old trick in journalism.

He basically says OG is available and not available within the same article. Which is the status of pretty much every player in the NBA. If the Raps get a great offer for OG, he's like any other player, he can be dealt.

brownbobcat · Post #100 » by **brownbobcat** » Tue May 31, 2022 4:36 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:Sometimes he has sources, sometimes he doesn't. In this case, he admits right in the article that nobody told B/R anything about OG wanting out, our about the Raptors shopping him. It's 100% made up.

Also, he throws out TONS of these pieces. Getting to claim he was right on some % of them is an old trick in journalism.

In fairness, the above isn't exactly accurate.

word has circulated among rival front offices that Anunoby grew dissatisfied at times with his role in Toronto.

Two sources with knowledge of the dynamic told B/R that Anunoby has not directly expressed discontent with his situation with the Raptors. Perhaps the conversation around him has been driven more by external interest in acquiring the fifth-year forward's services.

So 2 sources are saying Anunoby hasn't said anything to the FO directly, but that doesn't mean teams can't or don't pick up on any signs of dissatisfaction. OG is so non-expressive on and off the court that I find it hard to believe, but you never know. Everyone has an ego.