Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm)

[T-d0t]

I'm at a point where I'm losing confidence / hope, and I'd be surprised if Masai does anything at the deadline

I'm of the thinking OG goes out for a haul but thats it
everyone else stays

Yes this looks most likely.

Trent/FVV probably won't receive the offers that Bobby/Masai want and I wouldn't want to trade each of them for a late first + filler anyways.

If there is a Siakam trade, I believe it will be in the off-season.

They probably dump one of Malachi/Thad/Boucher as well?

[Rapsfan07]

kind of sucks how a Kyrie trade request materializes and gets completed before the weekend is over, yet we know we'll be refreshing all week with no news until after the deadline thursday.

Bro.. I honestly just don't get it.

Kyrie made a trade request and was moved in like three days. Ainge got to Boston and moved Mitchell and Gobert for one of greatest hauls in history. Did the same thing when he moved his pair of HoFers to build the foundation of what Boston is now. Pacers moved off of Sabonis and got Haliburton.

But for some reason, we're waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting to move the likes of FVV, OG and Siakam.

Now there's a chance we get lowballed or nothing gets done at the deadline because teams are waiting to see what happens with Durant.

[WuTang_CMB]

Remember for a Turner trade is less likely now bc of his new current salary $35M

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[WuTang_CMB]

kind of sucks how a Kyrie trade request materializes and gets completed before the weekend is over, yet we know we'll be refreshing all week with no news until after the deadline thursday.

Bro.. I honestly just don't get it.

Kyrie made a trade request and was moved in like three days. Ainge got to Boston and moved Mitchell and Gobert for one of greatest hauls in history. Did the same thing when he moved his pair of HoFers to build the foundation of what Boston is now. Pacers moved off of Sabonis and got Haliburton.

But for some reason, we're waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting to move the likes of FVV, OG and Siakam.

Now there's a chance we get lowballed or nothing gets done at the deadline because teams are waiting to see what happens with Durant.

I have no problem waiting until closer to deadline. Thats usually when deals happen.
I just hope SOMETHING happens.

It actually benefits us Kyrie deal happened yesterday - we got all week to leverage and figure out best deals.

Raps are front and centre.

[HumbleRen]

Just don't see Masai trading anyone of value while KD's situation looms in the air.

Hope I'm wrong but *shrugs*.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[Rapsfan07]

Just don't see Masai trading anyone of value while KD's situation looms in the air.

Hope I'm wrong but *shrugs*.

I agree.

If you're another team looking to make a massive upgrade, I imagine you would save your dry power for KD over Siakam... same thing for OG.

Really wish we made a move earlier because now teams will likely lowball

[WuTang_CMB]

Here’s the biggest aftershock from the Kyrie Irving trade that nobody is quite thinking about just yet: I expect teams to be very guarded with their future first-round picks this week, much more so than they would have been oh, say, Sunday morning. (Exception: The Lakers. But you probably already knew that.)

The reason is that the Irving trade opens up two different potential whale-hunting stories for savvy traders. Sharp NBA front offices will not want to foreclose upon these possibilities, for any reason, until there is more clarity after the season on where each of those situations might be headed.

The first, obvious one is what it means for Kevin Durant. Given the fact that Durant already demanded a trade once, and that he’s for the moment marooned as the only All-Star (not even the most die-hard Nets fan can muster a hopeful “Ben Simmons?”) on an old team without much draft capital, his situation warrants monitoring. He still has three years left on his deal with no options, which means the Nets still have the upper hand in any kind of ultimatum situation (like if he were to demand the general manager be fired, for instance, but who does a crazy thing like that?). Nonetheless, the clock is ticking.

Perhaps the Nets can flip the assets from the Dallas deal (an unprotected 2029 first, two future seconds, Spencer Dinwiddie and Dorian Finney-Smith) into more win-now help, such as turning this into a three-way deal for Toronto’s Fred VanVleet.

But let’s assume things stand pat for the Nets, and that their season goes about how you might expect from there — a spot in the 4-5 bracket in the Eastern Conference, a competitive first-round series, and, if they survive, another quick exit at the hands of Boston. That Nets team would be limping into the summer with a soon-to-be-35, not-terribly-happy franchise centerpiece in Durant, and the prospect of owing picks and swaps to Houston through 2027 boxing out any tanking scenarios.

In that situation, moving Durant for players and picks and starting over would not be a shocking endgame, especially if Durant agitates for it … and honestly, perhaps even if he doesn’t. Every realistic contender would be in on the bidding. (Heretical related thought: Would it be so bad if the suddenly Steph-less Warriors ended up in the lottery and had that pick to dangle in June?)

https://theathletic.com/4158681/2023/02/06/kyrie-irving-trade-fallout-nets-mavericks/


KD possibility might negate teams from making moves.

[T-d0t]

Just don't see Masai trading anyone of value while KD's situation looms in the air.

Hope I'm wrong but *shrugs*.

I agree.

If you're another team looking to make a massive upgrade, I imagine you would save your dry power for KD over Siakam... same thing for OG.

Really wish we made a move earlier because now teams will likely lowball

It's possible that teams wait but what about the teams that are trying to win now? (This season)

[Zeno]

Harris, Patty Mills, Cam Thomas, Philly '27, Dallas '29 for Fred, Khem.

[LarSiN]

"Sky is Falling!! posters like Dude-Niagra are hilarious. Chill out dawg

[Fairview4Life]

Here’s the biggest aftershock from the Kyrie Irving trade that nobody is quite thinking about just yet: I expect teams to be very guarded with their future first-round picks this week, much more so than they would have been oh, say, Sunday morning. (Exception: The Lakers. But you probably already knew that.)

The reason is that the Irving trade opens up two different potential whale-hunting stories for savvy traders. Sharp NBA front offices will not want to foreclose upon these possibilities, for any reason, until there is more clarity after the season on where each of those situations might be headed.

The first, obvious one is what it means for Kevin Durant. Given the fact that Durant already demanded a trade once, and that he’s for the moment marooned as the only All-Star (not even the most die-hard Nets fan can muster a hopeful “Ben Simmons?”) on an old team without much draft capital, his situation warrants monitoring. He still has three years left on his deal with no options, which means the Nets still have the upper hand in any kind of ultimatum situation (like if he were to demand the general manager be fired, for instance, but who does a crazy thing like that?). Nonetheless, the clock is ticking.

Perhaps the Nets can flip the assets from the Dallas deal (an unprotected 2029 first, two future seconds, Spencer Dinwiddie and Dorian Finney-Smith) into more win-now help, such as turning this into a three-way deal for Toronto’s Fred VanVleet.

But let’s assume things stand pat for the Nets, and that their season goes about how you might expect from there — a spot in the 4-5 bracket in the Eastern Conference, a competitive first-round series, and, if they survive, another quick exit at the hands of Boston. That Nets team would be limping into the summer with a soon-to-be-35, not-terribly-happy franchise centerpiece in Durant, and the prospect of owing picks and swaps to Houston through 2027 boxing out any tanking scenarios.

In that situation, moving Durant for players and picks and starting over would not be a shocking endgame, especially if Durant agitates for it … and honestly, perhaps even if he doesn’t. Every realistic contender would be in on the bidding. (Heretical related thought: Would it be so bad if the suddenly Steph-less Warriors ended up in the lottery and had that pick to dangle in June?)

https://theathletic.com/4158681/2023/02/06/kyrie-irving-trade-fallout-nets-mavericks/


KD possibility might negate teams from making moves.

Why would the Nets trade KD now and not in the summer?

[alienchild]

Just a random idea.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2d52grpu

[HumbleRen]

Just don't see Masai trading anyone of value while KD's situation looms in the air.

Hope I'm wrong but *shrugs*.

I agree.

If you're another team looking to make a massive upgrade, I imagine you would save your dry power for KD over Siakam... same thing for OG.

Really wish we made a move earlier because now teams will likely lowball

Yep, it's a bummer.

We'll see what happens though.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Here’s the biggest aftershock from the Kyrie Irving trade that nobody is quite thinking about just yet: I expect teams to be very guarded with their future first-round picks this week, much more so than they would have been oh, say, Sunday morning. (Exception: The Lakers. But you probably already knew that.)

The reason is that the Irving trade opens up two different potential whale-hunting stories for savvy traders. Sharp NBA front offices will not want to foreclose upon these possibilities, for any reason, until there is more clarity after the season on where each of those situations might be headed.

The first, obvious one is what it means for Kevin Durant. Given the fact that Durant already demanded a trade once, and that he’s for the moment marooned as the only All-Star (not even the most die-hard Nets fan can muster a hopeful “Ben Simmons?”) on an old team without much draft capital, his situation warrants monitoring. He still has three years left on his deal with no options, which means the Nets still have the upper hand in any kind of ultimatum situation (like if he were to demand the general manager be fired, for instance, but who does a crazy thing like that?). Nonetheless, the clock is ticking.

Perhaps the Nets can flip the assets from the Dallas deal (an unprotected 2029 first, two future seconds, Spencer Dinwiddie and Dorian Finney-Smith) into more win-now help, such as turning this into a three-way deal for Toronto’s Fred VanVleet.

But let’s assume things stand pat for the Nets, and that their season goes about how you might expect from there — a spot in the 4-5 bracket in the Eastern Conference, a competitive first-round series, and, if they survive, another quick exit at the hands of Boston. That Nets team would be limping into the summer with a soon-to-be-35, not-terribly-happy franchise centerpiece in Durant, and the prospect of owing picks and swaps to Houston through 2027 boxing out any tanking scenarios.

In that situation, moving Durant for players and picks and starting over would not be a shocking endgame, especially if Durant agitates for it … and honestly, perhaps even if he doesn’t. Every realistic contender would be in on the bidding. (Heretical related thought: Would it be so bad if the suddenly Steph-less Warriors ended up in the lottery and had that pick to dangle in June?)

https://theathletic.com/4158681/2023/02/06/kyrie-irving-trade-fallout-nets-mavericks/


KD possibility might negate teams from making moves.

Why would the Nets trade KD now and not in the summer?

Just John Hollinger playing 4D chess with himself.

[Lord_Zedd]

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I remember they also leaked Boston's offer in the summer and Brad Stevens had to do some damage control.

I mean I get it but at some point other teams won't be willing to negotiate in good faith with Sean Marks anymore.

[Los_29]

kind of sucks how a Kyrie trade request materializes and gets completed before the weekend is over, yet we know we'll be refreshing all week with no news until after the deadline thursday.

Bro.. I honestly just don't get it.

Kyrie made a trade request and was moved in like three days. Ainge got to Boston and moved Mitchell and Gobert for one of greatest hauls in history. Did the same thing when he moved his pair of HoFers to build the foundation of what Boston is now. Pacers moved off of Sabonis and got Haliburton.

But for some reason, we're waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting to move the likes of FVV, OG and Siakam.

Now there's a chance we get lowballed or nothing gets done at the deadline because teams are waiting to see what happens with Durant.

Those deals Ainge made were in the off-season.

And the Nets rushed into making a deal and got a poo poo platter as a result. What other teams have a made a deal this year? Practically no one. There is a reason for that.

Teams are going to be in bidding wars for a guy like OG. No one is low balling close to the deadline. That’s where teams get desperate.

[WuTang_CMB]

Here’s the biggest aftershock from the Kyrie Irving trade that nobody is quite thinking about just yet: I expect teams to be very guarded with their future first-round picks this week, much more so than they would have been oh, say, Sunday morning. (Exception: The Lakers. But you probably already knew that.)

The reason is that the Irving trade opens up two different potential whale-hunting stories for savvy traders. Sharp NBA front offices will not want to foreclose upon these possibilities, for any reason, until there is more clarity after the season on where each of those situations might be headed.

The first, obvious one is what it means for Kevin Durant. Given the fact that Durant already demanded a trade once, and that he’s for the moment marooned as the only All-Star (not even the most die-hard Nets fan can muster a hopeful “Ben Simmons?”) on an old team without much draft capital, his situation warrants monitoring. He still has three years left on his deal with no options, which means the Nets still have the upper hand in any kind of ultimatum situation (like if he were to demand the general manager be fired, for instance, but who does a crazy thing like that?). Nonetheless, the clock is ticking.

Perhaps the Nets can flip the assets from the Dallas deal (an unprotected 2029 first, two future seconds, Spencer Dinwiddie and Dorian Finney-Smith) into more win-now help, such as turning this into a three-way deal for Toronto’s Fred VanVleet.

But let’s assume things stand pat for the Nets, and that their season goes about how you might expect from there — a spot in the 4-5 bracket in the Eastern Conference, a competitive first-round series, and, if they survive, another quick exit at the hands of Boston. That Nets team would be limping into the summer with a soon-to-be-35, not-terribly-happy franchise centerpiece in Durant, and the prospect of owing picks and swaps to Houston through 2027 boxing out any tanking scenarios.

In that situation, moving Durant for players and picks and starting over would not be a shocking endgame, especially if Durant agitates for it … and honestly, perhaps even if he doesn’t. Every realistic contender would be in on the bidding. (Heretical related thought: Would it be so bad if the suddenly Steph-less Warriors ended up in the lottery and had that pick to dangle in June?)

https://theathletic.com/4158681/2023/02/06/kyrie-irving-trade-fallout-nets-mavericks/


KD possibility might negate teams from making moves.

Why would the Nets trade KD now and not in the summer?

Teams are watching for a trade for him in the off-season

[douggood]

The Lakers will remain active on the trade market, exploring deals both small and large. In the wake of the Irving-to-Dallas news, the two teams that have repeatedly popped up as Plan B options for the Lakers are the Utah Jazz and Toronto Raptors, according to league sources. Both teams have been linked to the Lakers in recent weeks and have starter-level players who have been rumored to be available. However, talks remain preliminary and nothing is imminent. The Charlotte Hornets, San Antonio Spurs and Chicago Bulls are three other teams to watch, according to those sources.

https://theathletic.com/4158971/2023/02/06/kyrie-irving-trade-lakers-lebron/?source=emp_shared_article

[Yeezus_]

kind of sucks how a Kyrie trade request materializes and gets completed before the weekend is over, yet we know we'll be refreshing all week with no news until after the deadline thursday.

Bro.. I honestly just don't get it.

Kyrie made a trade request and was moved in like three days. Ainge got to Boston and moved Mitchell and Gobert for one of greatest hauls in history. Did the same thing when he moved his pair of HoFers to build the foundation of what Boston is now. Pacers moved off of Sabonis and got Haliburton.

But for some reason, we're waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting to move the likes of FVV, OG and Siakam.

Now there's a chance we get lowballed or nothing gets done at the deadline because teams are waiting to see what happens with Durant.

Kyrie vs. Raptors players getting traded is way different.

Just like there's a chance we get lowballed, there's a chance we extract max value for whoever gets traded. We don't know so I dont get the point of assuming what's going on behind the scenes.