Shams: TOR signs DJ Carton to a New Deal (2-way) pg. 7
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Really rooting for this kid. He dealt with some serious mental health issues/an eating disorder while at OSU: https://www.ourquadcities.com/news/local-news/battling-within/the-battle-within-dj-cartons-journey-through-mental-health-pt-2/
            
                                    
                                    
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raptoradical wrote:10 day sign on players are usually 10 days to see what they have, so time will tell if he can stick.
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tecumseh18 wrote:Yeezus_ wrote:Steelo Green wrote:Wonder when we'll find our Embiid considering there's one hundred walking around in Africa.
Masai was definitely exaggerating but the point was these guys don't get the opportunity to play basketball at all at a young age. You're taking it too literally but I guess that's expected with some.
It's like when Bryan Colangelo brought in Maurizio Gherardini. He was supposed to be supper connected in Europe, and give us access to all these hidden gems in the Euro league. Maybe he helped bring in Garbajosa his first year, but that was it from then on. Zilch. Nada.
Masai has been bringing in the Africans from US college ball - Precious, Koloko, and now Agbaji. But nothing directly from Africa. We seem to have no advantage in that regard.
Not to mention, 2/3 of those players were drafted elsewhere and shown to not be particularly good, yet still decides to pick them up. There can be a million Embiids, doesn't matter much when they go in the top 5 and we dont have picks/treadmill into the 15-20's.
The world is small now, there is practically no country on earth that scouts aren't checking out, no one was shocked when embiid went 3rd, finding a great player, and not being able to draft them is pretty pointless. When does this team hit on a player no one was expecting? The heat have found like what 2 or 3 in the last few years, we can't even find 1 in 5ish.

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Scase wrote:tecumseh18 wrote:Yeezus_ wrote:Masai was definitely exaggerating but the point was these guys don't get the opportunity to play basketball at all at a young age. You're taking it too literally but I guess that's expected with some.
It's like when Bryan Colangelo brought in Maurizio Gherardini. He was supposed to be supper connected in Europe, and give us access to all these hidden gems in the Euro league. Maybe he helped bring in Garbajosa his first year, but that was it from then on. Zilch. Nada.
Masai has been bringing in the Africans from US college ball - Precious, Koloko, and now Agbaji. But nothing directly from Africa. We seem to have no advantage in that regard.
Not to mention, 2/3 of those players were drafted elsewhere and shown to not be particularly good, yet still decides to pick them up. There can be a million Embiids, doesn't matter much when they go in the top 5 and we dont have picks/treadmill into the 15-20's.
The world is small now, there is practically no country on earth that scouts aren't checking out, no one was shocked when embiid went 3rd, finding a great player, and not being able to draft them is pretty pointless. When does this team hit on a player no one was expecting? The heat have found like what 2 or 3 in the last few years, we can't even find 1 in 5ish.
I mean they hit on Scottie who no one was expecting. They hit on pascal who also no one was expecting (who btw is African not sure what that has to do with anything tho) I understand it’s been a drought of late but you can’t keep hitting on undrafted/low tier picks. It’s just not statistically possible. And even after the last 5 years we are still at the top of the league in terms of scouting.
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ill-Will03 wrote:Scase wrote:tecumseh18 wrote:
It's like when Bryan Colangelo brought in Maurizio Gherardini. He was supposed to be supper connected in Europe, and give us access to all these hidden gems in the Euro league. Maybe he helped bring in Garbajosa his first year, but that was it from then on. Zilch. Nada.
Masai has been bringing in the Africans from US college ball - Precious, Koloko, and now Agbaji. But nothing directly from Africa. We seem to have no advantage in that regard.
Not to mention, 2/3 of those players were drafted elsewhere and shown to not be particularly good, yet still decides to pick them up. There can be a million Embiids, doesn't matter much when they go in the top 5 and we dont have picks/treadmill into the 15-20's.
The world is small now, there is practically no country on earth that scouts aren't checking out, no one was shocked when embiid went 3rd, finding a great player, and not being able to draft them is pretty pointless. When does this team hit on a player no one was expecting? The heat have found like what 2 or 3 in the last few years, we can't even find 1 in 5ish.
I mean they hit on Scottie who no one was expecting. They hit on pascal who also no one was expecting (who btw is African not sure what that has to do with anything tho) I understand it’s been a drought of late but you can’t keep hitting on undrafted/low tier picks. It’s just not statistically possible. And even after the last 5 years we are still at the top of the league in terms of scouting.
Scottie was basically a consensus top 5 pick, virtually 90% of mock drafts had the Magic picking him after us, lets not pretend he was some late first or SRP, he was a lotto pick. It was a good pick and they get credit for that, but no one plans a parade for getting a lotto pick right.
Siakam was drafted almost 8 years ago, not sure why he is relevant here. I'm not expecting them to hit on every single pick, I'm expecting them to find at least one rotational player out of the 30ish 10 days and 5-10 SRPs. No one is asking for them to find all stars in the 50s, but someone who can actually play for the team for more than half a season is not a high bar to clear.

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LXTSN wrote:I'm going to get way too excited for nothing... But look at how he went from a 10ppg scorer, to 16ppg and now to 20ppg in his 3 G-league seasons, all well increasing minutes and increasing efficiency. That proves work ethic is there.
Although he is an undersized guard, it looks like he makes up for it with athleticism.
I might actually watch the next 10 days of Raptor games to see how he does lol
Wont see a lick of playtime. Bruce brown, Ochai, and Gradey are the guards off the bench.
This why i wanted to see Trent and bruce traded. So we could start planning for next season and at least see what we have in dudes like JFL.
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OK maybe a dumb question, but is this 10 days from the date he signed the deal?  Or 10 days from the date of the first game?  If its the first option, did we burn 10% of his deal already?
            
                                    
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Scase wrote:tecumseh18 wrote:Yeezus_ wrote:Masai was definitely exaggerating but the point was these guys don't get the opportunity to play basketball at all at a young age. You're taking it too literally but I guess that's expected with some.
It's like when Bryan Colangelo brought in Maurizio Gherardini. He was supposed to be supper connected in Europe, and give us access to all these hidden gems in the Euro league. Maybe he helped bring in Garbajosa his first year, but that was it from then on. Zilch. Nada.
Masai has been bringing in the Africans from US college ball - Precious, Koloko, and now Agbaji. But nothing directly from Africa. We seem to have no advantage in that regard.
Not to mention, 2/3 of those players were drafted elsewhere and shown to not be particularly good, yet still decides to pick them up. There can be a million Embiids, doesn't matter much when they go in the top 5 and we dont have picks/treadmill into the 15-20's.
The world is small now, there is practically no country on earth that scouts aren't checking out, no one was shocked when embiid went 3rd, finding a great player, and not being able to draft them is pretty pointless. When does this team hit on a player no one was expecting? The heat have found like what 2 or 3 in the last few years, we can't even find 1 in 5ish.
We can't even find one Max Strus!
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Hopefully, he gets a real opportunity to show what he can do.
            
                                    
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InfraRedshaw wrote:OK maybe a dumb question, but is this 10 days from the date he signed the deal? Or 10 days from the date of the first game? If its the first option, did we burn 10% of his deal already?
It's the bolded, but Winslow and Gueye's 10-days both expired on the 20th and they needed to bring in at least 1 guy immediately after because they only have 13 non 2-way deals on the books and every team needs to have at least 14.
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These are the kind of shots they need to take. Obviously there is probably a 97% chance this doesn't work out, but you have to keep trying. Hope he gets some actual playing time.
            
                                    
                                    
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he can play
im biased though i like calling him milk carton
            
                                    
                                    
                        im biased though i like calling him milk carton
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I've seen enough.  Sign him to a standard NBA contract.  Why is Tiny Fred still on the roster?  He won't make an NBA roster.
            
                                    
                                    
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Milk!
            
                                    
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DJ Cartoon leads the NBA in shooting %, he is 100% from the field and 100% from the FT line.
Joking aside, his handle looked real good.
            
                                    
                                    
                        Joking aside, his handle looked real good.
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ill-Will03 wrote:Scase wrote:
The world is small now, there is practically no country on earth that scouts aren't checking out, no one was shocked when embiid went 3rd, finding a great player, and not being able to draft them is pretty pointless. When does this team hit on a player no one was expecting? The heat have found like what 2 or 3 in the last few years, we can't even find 1 in 5ish.
I mean they hit on Scottie who no one was expecting. They hit on pascal who also no one was expecting (who btw is African not sure what that has to do with anything tho) I understand it’s been a drought of late but you can’t keep hitting on undrafted/low tier picks. It’s just not statistically possible. And even after the last 5 years we are still at the top of the league in terms of scouting.
Because they are babies and have an agenda. Even we are top in scouting, they will still complain about our scouting. If these people were our scouts we would have Suggs and the Pacers bench warmers
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I read somewhere that he likes the NBA travel and lifestyle and wants to make it permanent. In watching him yesterday he did make an impression.
Size-wise he looks like an NBA guy - night and day difference from Malachi Flynn from a physical side
Didn't overhandle or force anything on offense, but he had a moment where he was setting up for a stepback and he deferred - he needs to take that shot
Defense was a mixed bag of him just running around with his head cut-off, but that is expected. The part I really liked was his man defense and at one point he was defending the post with a big pushing him around and he was giving the guy hell. He ended up with a foul, but it showed some toughness.
Seems like a Marquette guy through and through. Just tough and poised which is going to go far in the NBA. I can't wait to see that athleticism unleashed on a fastbreak.
            
                                    
                                    
                        Size-wise he looks like an NBA guy - night and day difference from Malachi Flynn from a physical side
Didn't overhandle or force anything on offense, but he had a moment where he was setting up for a stepback and he deferred - he needs to take that shot
Defense was a mixed bag of him just running around with his head cut-off, but that is expected. The part I really liked was his man defense and at one point he was defending the post with a big pushing him around and he was giving the guy hell. He ended up with a foul, but it showed some toughness.
Seems like a Marquette guy through and through. Just tough and poised which is going to go far in the NBA. I can't wait to see that athleticism unleashed on a fastbreak.




















