Thaddy wrote:If he came in a S&T for a low priced TO it couldn't be worse than a OPJ level signing.
Brown and Boucher for Simmons (90M - 3 years with TO).
WTF, hell no.
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Thaddy wrote:If he came in a S&T for a low priced TO it couldn't be worse than a OPJ level signing.
Brown and Boucher for Simmons (90M - 3 years with TO).
Shakril wrote:I hope we sign him, just to see this Board burning.
mieshpal wrote:I would sign him for league min, nothing more.
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Thaddy wrote:mieshpal wrote:I would sign him for league min, nothing more.
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Why exactly would he want to sign here instead of somewhere else?
A non guaranteed deal for 1-3 years that pays him to the point that it's a no brainer is the only way we get Ben here.
brownbobcat wrote:Thaddy wrote:mieshpal wrote:I would sign him for league min, nothing more.
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Why exactly would he want to sign here instead of somewhere else?
A non guaranteed deal for 1-3 years that pays him to the point that it's a no brainer is the only way we get Ben here.
I'm not against taking risks, just not when the downside is that huge. We're talking 2 back surgeries + extensive time missed for non-surgical treatment. 57 games in 3 years - he makes OPJ look like an iron man in comparison and the last thing this team needs is someone who can't shoot a lick. Even the full MLE would be a disaster.
- Raptors RealGM Forum re: Masai Ujiri - June 2023What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.
brownbobcat wrote:Thaddy wrote:mieshpal wrote:I would sign him for league min, nothing more.
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Why exactly would he want to sign here instead of somewhere else?
A non guaranteed deal for 1-3 years that pays him to the point that it's a no brainer is the only way we get Ben here.
I'm not against taking risks, just not when the downside is that huge. We're talking 2 back surgeries + extensive time missed for non-surgical treatment. 57 games in 3 years - he makes OPJ look like an iron man in comparison and the last thing this team needs is someone who can't shoot a lick. Even the full MLE would be a disaster.
pilkoids wrote:brownbobcat wrote:Thaddy wrote:Why exactly would he want to sign here instead of somewhere else?
A non guaranteed deal for 1-3 years that pays him to the point that it's a no brainer is the only way we get Ben here.
I'm not against taking risks, just not when the downside is that huge. We're talking 2 back surgeries + extensive time missed for non-surgical treatment. 57 games in 3 years - he makes OPJ look like an iron man in comparison and the last thing this team needs is someone who can't shoot a lick. Even the full MLE would be a disaster.
There's little risk/downside with signing him. If it doesnt work out, move on. The main question is how many other teams are willing to take that risk?
I'm against it - simply because i'm convinced it's just wasted effort and time. Ben doesn't want to play anymore - this much is clear to me.
CazOnReal wrote:Lotta people ignoring the context re: if Simmons was bought out
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
ash_k wrote:I will always be a big fan of his, however he has just been injury-prone from DAY1 (foot, knee, back...)
pre-back injury with the Sixers/post-ATL series, with trade rumors around both Pascal and Ben..on paper, a starting 5 of FVV/Gary/OG/Ben/C felt elite defensively and tons of potential offensively with the 3pt shooting around Ben. But it would have been FVV and Gary on their own basically with OG and Ben injured.
Though I will let medical experts advise, back injuries expert:
MPJ had at least 2 back surgeries and has gone back to borderline all-star at times
What is causing Ben's back's inability to heal with all this modern technology? is the nature of his injury that much more severe than MPJ? The latter's career looked in jeopardy too!
I need that medical expert for PRO sport injury on Youtube to advise here?! he had advised about Scottie's injury
Sinant wrote:I treat the Phoenix/Cleveland/Boston Shaqs like I do Wizards MJ. Never happened.
Thaddy wrote:If he came in a S&T for a low priced TO it couldn't be worse than a OPJ level signing.
Brown and Boucher for Simmons (90M - 3 years with TO).
Olynyk - Poeltl
Barnes - Agbaji
Barrett - Dick
IQ - Trent
Simmons - Barnes
JShuttlesworth wrote:Thaddy wrote:If he came in a S&T for a low priced TO it couldn't be worse than a OPJ level signing.
Brown and Boucher for Simmons (90M - 3 years with TO).
Olynyk - Poeltl
Barnes - Agbaji
Barrett - Dick
IQ - Trent
Simmons - Barnes
Potentially one of the worst takes in Raptors Real GM history