Clutch0z24 wrote:Boogie! wrote:if were tanking this year, it doesn't really bode well for scottie's development. He was an all-star last year, and is supposed to be the cornerstone building block. He's already in his 4th year... by this point, if he is who we expect him to be he should be carrying the team to wins...
Gotta look at it from a long term perspective and his development for his 5 year Max contract he just signed....He still has 1 more year under his last contract and his Max contract starts next year....We still have half a decade with Barnes being on the team....Hes going nowhere...No need to be in a rush for him to "Make the playoffs this year or hes a total bust" type of guy just yet...
What we need is another top of the line prospect for him to play with and be alongside him....We need another top end draft pick on the same or above level as Scottie Barnes is for this team to actually be a threat during Barnes Max contract years...That should be the goal of everyone and the front office...
We have 1 bad year, Go into next year with Lets say and hope for 1 of Flagg/Bailey/Harper/Edgecomb/Troare and start Barnes era the right way....Can't go wrong with any of them prospects imo...
I think this teams needs just 1 more player on that level to be where we were during the Lowry/DD era ...Winning 40+ games every year and being in the conversation in the playoffs...Thats more intriguing to me than trying to push Barnes to win here too early lose in the playoffs cause we are not talented enough and get a pick in the 15th area where they turn out to be players that are not on the team in 2-3 years times cause they are not that good...To push this current team we have to the playoffs and actually win some series in the playoffs you would need a prime LeBron James....And Barnes is not that type of player...Still a great player just will never be on that level...
I agree with almost everything you said expect that "1 more player to be at the level of Lowry/DD era"...that I disagree with because all due & MAJOR respect for what Kyle & DeMar did, even if LeBron humiliated them on an annual basis, they still made this team a tough pretender/gatekeeper and most franchises struggle to even be in that 2nd tier like they were but they were never true contenders. I fully believe Scottie + let's call it Ace Bailey WOULD be a LEGIT contender because BOTH guys have substantially higher ceilings than either of Kyle or DeMar and then we have all these other nice pieces like IQ, RJ, Gradey, maybe Chomche down the line....NOW you'd have the makings of a real potential championship squad imo. Don't add that piece then I think ironically you could find yourself in that Lowry/DD territory where your a fun, "competitive" team during the regular season but you just don't have enough TRUE star power when the Playoffs come around to get past the best of the best. I think it's quite obvious that we don't have that YET but this upcoming draft we can give ourselves the OPPORTUNITY to have that.
But also as a quick aside I don't wanna hear how Poeltl is so supposedly essential to Scottie's development. There isn't a true superstar in the league that needs or needed a "Jakob Poeltl" to become who they are. That was their own individual skill development and understanding of the game. Yes a player like Yak can help SHOWCASE his skills and help him win but that is being mistakenly blurred in with development when it's not the case. It makes his job easier but it doesn't mean it's literally making him a better player ie/ Luka is a superstar regardless of who he plays with BUT Lively makes his life easier and helps him win more because he's a smart player that is competent at his position and does a lot of things Luka's team needs as Yak does here. Also look at year 3-4 Giannis, guess what?! Brook Lopez wasn't there and guess who still became a dominant monster and MVP level player?!
But you name your top 10 or so players in the league, they didn't "require" a specific C to get there lol players like Yak just obviously help them be effective but they are a luxury. It does not mean he's affecting his development, they're not the same things so I'm not concerned that Scottie won't become whatever level of player he's inevitably become. And Yak is not some irreplaceable piece that can't be obtained again in a year or two (although we'd hope Chomche is well on his way but that point too). Players like Yak help win but they don't change the entire trajectory of a star player lol Idc if you're LeBron, Tatum, Dame...if you're a top 10-15 level player, you'll make the Playoffs in due time. But not having a star running mate can make or break your team being a true contender or not which is the true bigger picture and what I'd be placing FAR more importance on.
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