What is the plan here?

[TheRaptor!]

Damn this really hit home, especially because I was in uni during the Bosh years and had unlimited amount of energy to watch every single raptors game, even through the darkest of times, I just don't have it in me anymore. The past 2 years, is the least number of games I have watched since the late 90's. I guess I'm trying to use this thread to see how I can justify coming back to watch the games again on a regular basis

Imagine working all day from 9-5, get home at 6 pm, cook dinner by 7-730.

Then you got about 4.5 hrs before bed time around midnight, you got a wife who wants attention and possibly even kids as well as wanting some alone time to wind down or game for a bit or catch up on a show.

This is just a typical weekday...does spending 2.5 hours on a mediocre product like the Raptors seem like a good idea to you guys?

Did you think the same thing in 2014-2018?

I enjoyed making the playoffs and winning a lot of games

[mdenny]

Imagine working all day from 9-5, get home at 6 pm, cook dinner by 7-730.

Then you got about 4.5 hrs before bed time around midnight, you got a wife who wants attention and possibly even kids as well as wanting some alone time to wind down or game for a bit or catch up on a show.

This is just a typical weekday...does spending 2.5 hours on a mediocre product like the Raptors seem like a good idea to you guys?

Did you think the same thing in 2014-2018?

I enjoyed making the playoffs and winning a lot of games

Ayo bro....the whole thing is just weird. Are you saying that if the raptors won the lottery you would invest less time in your family? Lol lord help us.

That's not true c'mon.

[Raps in 4]

It could be. It also might not be. We'll see.

Masai still has the #9 pick this year that he can use to draft a difference maker. There is also still a chance that Scottie, JaKobe, or Dick take the next step (as unlikely as that might seem).

However, if none of that happens, then yeah, it'll be a failed rebuild as we'll be stuck with a middling team for the foreseeable future.

The ball is entirely in Masai's court.

[canada_dry]

Asset building. Strike when the iron is hot for a star after developing some guys and depth. Be competitive in the meanwhile. Yes that means ingram and scottie lead teams.

Its the same formula as the last successful era that TWO hated so much while it was happening. Expect much of the same outrage in this case too whether it works out or not.

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[nivisi9]

The reality is whatever your perception is,

We have multiple lottery picks sprinkled all over this roster
Plenty of em are ours
We control all of our picks going fwd
Just picked up a 22 5 5 player
Under the luxury tax, plenty of good to look fwd too which is our current perception & reality instead of looking back on moves that took place 4-5 yrs ago

Trading for Ingram ends our rebuild after 1 yr and places Raptors play-in /treadmill territory DEFINITIVELY moving forward.

That direction has been sealed, which also eliminates any possible scenarios which included building patiently with top draft picks.

That's decisively most consequential then anything from 4-5 yrs ago.

[Kingsway_fan]

We're building around Scottie, is that it? I held out hope that Scottie was just a placeholder "franchise player" until we get a top 5-6 pick (pushing Scottie to a number 2 or 3 option) but now that's out the window, where does this team go from here? If Brandon freaking Ingram is our best player over the next 2-3 seasons, we are in for a very long ride. Something has to give



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Treadmill with 1st round exits the next 3-4 years, Scottie walks or we trade him on an expiring with no leverage, after trading away another FRP to try and compete, only to have it spectacularly blow up in our faces again.

We got our chip by stockpiling valuable assets, we have moved away from that and are stockpiling SRP level players, and cast off players that other franchises have no interest in.

The team will absolutely be more watchable, and they will have a modicum of success, the "I just want to see the team win" crowd will be happy, and we will continue to be irrelevant while people point to our record in a weak east. The earth continues to spin.

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Basically the Chris Bosh Raptors.

Which is fun to watch when you a college student who wants something else to moan about.

But when you're a married adult you have no interest wasting your time watchiing because you no its a path to nowhere. The prototypical Treadmill.

Then why post here if you aren't interested in the team.? Surely you have better use for your time?

Or are you one of those who work in a job you don't like, afraid to cut the cord and leave or take risks, but Iove to whine and complain to your colleagues?

Yes, we all would love to have had a top pick, but that's life... most here love the sport and are Raptor fans... which is why we follow threads here .... otherwise, we wouldn't be here, right?

[Mattatron]

The reality is whatever your perception is,

We have multiple lottery picks sprinkled all over this roster
Plenty of em are ours
We control all of our picks going fwd
Just picked up a 22 5 5 player
Under the luxury tax, plenty of good to look fwd too which is our current perception & reality instead of looking back on moves that took place 4-5 yrs ago

"Just picked up a 22 5 5 player" wow, you mean the craptors just picked up a 55 games per season player. 22/5/5 ? Every scrub can put up numbers like this nowadays. U acting like he's McGrady and were in '04. Lmao gtfoh

[SFour]

Ingram, RJ, Barnes were the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th pick....and you're saying they might not even be good as the OG/ Siakam/FVV core that were picked 23rd, 27th, undrafted. Don't you find that interesting.

[Mattatron]

2015 Hawks set up. See how far that takes us. Win and we improve the marketability/tradeability of our players. Lose and we retool. We're likely too good and too deep to turn back now, even if this team doesn't make a lot of sense.

Wtf ? U compare this trash full of dog **** franchise with the 15/16 hawks ?

[Shakril]

We're building around Scottie, is that it? I held out hope that Scottie was just a placeholder "franchise player" until we get a top 5-6 pick (pushing Scottie to a number 2 or 3 option) but now that's out the window, where does this team go from here? If Brandon freaking Ingram is our best player over the next 2-3 seasons, we are in for a very long ride. Something has to give



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If we had taken last year seriously, we would know. Now we have to wait for next season and see if our current team is worth anything.

[Tripod]

Imagine working all day from 9-5, get home at 6 pm, cook dinner by 7-730.

Then you got about 4.5 hrs before bed time around midnight, you got a wife who wants attention and possibly even kids as well as wanting some alone time to wind down or game for a bit or catch up on a show.

This is just a typical weekday...does spending 2.5 hours on a mediocre product like the Raptors seem like a good idea to you guys?

Did you think the same thing in 2014-2018?

I enjoyed making the playoffs and winning a lot of games

Good. We are about to embark on the same path. Enjoy the ride.

[Anticon]

You keep playing to win and keep building up the talent base, same as was done from 2013-2018.

I wouldn't expect much anytime soon; 2020 to at least 2027 will probably be a mostly wasted decade, before things pick up again.

The key difference in the preceding era? Kyle Lowry.

Yup. We have to hope Scottie takes on that role, for this team to matter. Otherwise they'll be another reset in a couple of years once the writing is on the wall.

[arbsn]

I like RJ and Scottie. Poeltl is boring but effective. Quickley has some moments. Walter has some potential.

We just don’t have any really exciting players.

[Duffman100]

I’m going to post this over and over again if cooper doesn’t pan out.

Bingo, my time and money is earned, not freely given. The NBA product as a whole has gotten worse, and now having a team that has zero path to being anything more than cannon fodder for properly built teams, is just not worth my time.



Anthony Bennet was a 1st OA pick, lets go get him, using your "logic" we'll be on the path to a chip.

I didn't think you could post something with even more nonsense, but I tip my hat to you in sinking below how low that bar was.

Hey I see you're back posting again. And again posting nothing but negativity.

Please adjust again.

[Duffman100]

Merged the "failed rebuild" thread into this one as it's essentially the same talk.

[Ado05]

The plan has to be trade for a superstar. We’ll see if Masai can pull it off.

[DreamTeam09]

The reality is whatever your perception is,

We have multiple lottery picks sprinkled all over this roster
Plenty of em are ours
We control all of our picks going fwd
Just picked up a 22 5 5 player
Under the luxury tax, plenty of good to look fwd too which is our current perception & reality instead of looking back on moves that took place 4-5 yrs ago

"Just picked up a 22 5 5 player" wow, you mean the craptors just picked up a 55 games per season player. 22/5/5 ? Every scrub can put up numbers like this nowadays. U acting like he's McGrady and were in '04. Lmao gtfoh

Shut up u loser, play in traffic on the DVP

warned.

[Duffman100]

The reality is whatever your perception is,

We have multiple lottery picks sprinkled all over this roster
Plenty of em are ours
We control all of our picks going fwd
Just picked up a 22 5 5 player
Under the luxury tax, plenty of good to look fwd too which is our current perception & reality instead of looking back on moves that took place 4-5 yrs ago

"Just picked up a 22 5 5 player" wow, you mean the craptors just picked up a 55 games per season player. 22/5/5 ? Every scrub can put up numbers like this nowadays. U acting like he's McGrady and were in '04. Lmao gtfoh

Every scrub can?

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional?CF=PTS*GE*20:REB*GE*5:AST*GE*5&PerMode=PerGame&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=-1&sort=PTS

13 players did that last season...

[Mak]

We're building around Scottie, is that it? I held out hope that Scottie was just a placeholder "franchise player" until we get a top 5-6 pick (pushing Scottie to a number 2 or 3 option) but now that's out the window, where does this team go from here? If Brandon freaking Ingram is our best player over the next 2-3 seasons, we are in for a very long ride. Something has to give



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Something has to give? How about we let the team play a full season as structured.

[youngRAPZ]

2015 Hawks set up. See how far that takes us. Win and we improve the marketability/tradeability of our players. Lose and we retool. We're likely too good and too deep to turn back now, even if this team doesn't make a lot of sense.

Wtf ? U compare this trash full of dog **** franchise with the 15/16 hawks ?

lol no one is begging you to be a fan of the Raptors. In fact I’m quite sure it’s the opposite please abandon your allegiance to the raptors and stop posting