ImageImageImageImageImage

[STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto

Moderators: 7 Footer, Morris_Shatford, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, lebron stopper, DG88, HiJiNX

Zeno
RealGM
Posts: 24,915
And1: 23,140
Joined: Jun 06, 2001
   

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#81 » by Zeno » Thu May 15, 2025 4:30 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Zeno wrote:I just don’t see Masai wanting that job. It comes with a meddling owner’s son and a gm under him recently hired that he’d supposedly have to keep.


Masai worked fine under Tanenbaum, who was a meddling owner. And he of course worked under Kroenke, who gave himself a basketball exec position.

Saleh is from Edmonton, and worked with the Spurs and Warriors. Masai worked with Bobby without having known him. I thought the interesting part was Giannis' agent also being in the mix. Saratsis and Masai are close. It could be that there's a Masai-Saratsis-Saleh framework like how Masai-Weltman and Webster worked together initially.

I have no real idea how things are in the organization but I never got the impression that Tanenbaum wanted to get involved in basketball decisions in any way ever. The Atlanta owner's son is reported to have got directly involved in basketball decisions. Masai left Denver to move up in pay of course but also in decision making. Just because he worked well in a bad situation in the past doesn't mean he will willing go to one in the future. It is not that I think he stays just the Atlanta situation seems like an undesirable one. I'll trust you one the Saratsis/Masai connection. Maybe Masai doesn't mind that the GM is hired already and that the owner's son wants to have a say in roster decisions but that is a less than ideal situation. The Raptors' situation is not that desirable either. Just expect Masai to want a job with more control not a step back to a level he has advanced past.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.
User avatar
Clay Davis
Head Coach
Posts: 6,056
And1: 7,336
Joined: Nov 06, 2013
 

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#82 » by Clay Davis » Thu May 15, 2025 4:34 pm

This is an off-season of LOWW rizz
1. Masai getting the Hawk Tuah To Atl
2. LOSING the lottery
3. Scottish still with no jump shot
Image
Steelo Green wrote:Even though you know somehow we all gotta go, as long as we believin' thievin' we'll be leavin' with some kind of dough.
PushDaRock
RealGM
Posts: 16,145
And1: 12,000
Joined: Jun 22, 2011

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#83 » by PushDaRock » Thu May 15, 2025 4:57 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
LascelleL wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Masai has been very bad since 2021 but has already shown signs to reverting back to what made him great originally. There isn't anyone we could get better for the role so I really hope we lock him up longterm.

Ed Rogers scares me with his stupidity though, he probably wants someone like Mark Shapiro.


Scottie was the ROY in 2022...we made the playoffs in 2022 and put up a great fight.

We flipped Pascal and OG into RJ, Quickley, Ingram, Jakobe and more....Like very bad? The Wizards, Hornets are very bad.


Sorry but my standards aren't not being a bottom 3 franchise in the NBA. He dropped the ball with his stupid 6'9 vision and then delayed the inevitable rebuild causing this team tanking the past 2 years with only the 9th pick to show for it.

With that said, I 100% want Masai back. He's working towards building something great here again and this upcoming season will be evident of that imo.


I think this illustrates that many people only love the idea of draft picks and don't care about the draft picks themselves. Saying we "Only" have the 9th pick to show since the rebuild while we added 5 rookies this past season seems really odd. How many players picked ahead of Walter are you definitively taking over him anyways? That was a dumpster fire draft class for elite talent, even a top 5 pick wasn't anything to get excited about.
PushDaRock
RealGM
Posts: 16,145
And1: 12,000
Joined: Jun 22, 2011

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#84 » by PushDaRock » Thu May 15, 2025 5:01 pm

Zeno wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Zeno wrote:I just don’t see Masai wanting that job. It comes with a meddling owner’s son and a gm under him recently hired that he’d supposedly have to keep.


Masai worked fine under Tanenbaum, who was a meddling owner. And he of course worked under Kroenke, who gave himself a basketball exec position.

Saleh is from Edmonton, and worked with the Spurs and Warriors. Masai worked with Bobby without having known him. I thought the interesting part was Giannis' agent also being in the mix. Saratsis and Masai are close. It could be that there's a Masai-Saratsis-Saleh framework like how Masai-Weltman and Webster worked together initially.

I have no real idea how things are in the organization but I never got the impression that Tanenbaum wanted to get involved in basketball decisions in any way ever. The Atlanta owner's son is reported to have got directly involved in basketball decisions. Masai left Denver to move up in pay of course but also in decision making. Just because he worked well in a bad situation in the past doesn't mean he will willing go to one in the future. It is not that I think he stays just the Atlanta situation seems like an undesirable one. I'll trust you one the Saratsis/Masai connection. Maybe Masai doesn't mind that the GM is hired already and that the owner's son wants to have a say in roster decisions but that is a less than ideal situation. The Raptors' situation is not that desirable either. Just expect Masai to want a job with more control not a step back to a level he has advanced past.


Surely Masai can get a better job than the Hawks one. Although he has had success taking over similar situations before.
Dalek
RealGM
Posts: 13,877
And1: 10,677
Joined: Jan 24, 2005
Location: At the elbow - dropping dimes
 

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#85 » by Dalek » Thu May 15, 2025 5:04 pm

bobbyp3588 wrote:
Dalek wrote:It would be tough to lose him because he is the architect of this mess and what type of GM is salivating to take this over.

He brought in Darko ball and has a practically capped out team with a signature player who can't shoot and a guy we traded for and signed to a big deal and haven't even seen him play a single game.

Our lead PG is probably a backup for most teams and we have little depth and no emerging young players on rookie deals.

The only saving grace is we have our own picks and we can fallback that on paper this looks interesting if everything breaks right.

At least Masai said he expects to be competitive and the door is open in the East. So let's see what happens, but he should stick this out rather than abandoning us like he did Denver.

I still remember him signing JaVale McGhee to a huge deal and reading for Iguodala before he left the Nuggets which was hardly table setting for their next GM.


No joke, not trying to be obtuse but I think you forgot the green font. Very inaccurate take. I wouldn’t even know where to start…

Just glad I don’t go through my day to day with a similarly exaggerated negative perception of everything.


I don't know man. How has your last five years been? Last time we made the playoffs we got bounced in the first round by Philly or you can talk about the funny play-in game where Demar's kid screamed us out of the playoffs. Then we moved of all of our core players and restarted with crown jewels like Scottie Barnes and Gradey Dick. You are right, there are exciting times ahead.

You cannot watch the NBA and think what Toronto is doing is normal. Ujiri lives to be the guy who zagged in almost every decision.
User avatar
LascelleL
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,311
And1: 2,247
Joined: Jan 12, 2010
Location: Toronto
   

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#86 » by LascelleL » Thu May 15, 2025 5:13 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
LascelleL wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Masai has been very bad since 2021 but has already shown signs to reverting back to what made him great originally. There isn't anyone we could get better for the role so I really hope we lock him up longterm.

Ed Rogers scares me with his stupidity though, he probably wants someone like Mark Shapiro.


Scottie was the ROY in 2022...we made the playoffs in 2022 and put up a great fight.

We flipped Pascal and OG into RJ, Quickley, Ingram, Jakobe and more....Like very bad? The Wizards, Hornets are very bad.


Sorry but my standards aren't not being a bottom 3 franchise in the NBA. He dropped the ball with his stupid 6'9 vision and then delayed the inevitable rebuild causing this team tanking the past 2 years with only the 9th pick to show for it.

With that said, I 100% want Masai back. He's working towards building something great here again and this upcoming season will be evident of that imo.


You're a Raptors fan.....What standards do you have in place that weren't put there by Masai?

And we've never been a bottom 3 franchise. We are actually a well respected franchise that many consider well run. Part of the reason for the slow decline from the Chip season was losing Kawhi. Not a lot teams can bounce back from losing their star player and it was unheard of to lose him after a chip.
Tor_Raps
RealGM
Posts: 33,004
And1: 47,808
Joined: Oct 14, 2018

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#87 » by Tor_Raps » Thu May 15, 2025 5:19 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
LascelleL wrote:
Scottie was the ROY in 2022...we made the playoffs in 2022 and put up a great fight.

We flipped Pascal and OG into RJ, Quickley, Ingram, Jakobe and more....Like very bad? The Wizards, Hornets are very bad.


Sorry but my standards aren't not being a bottom 3 franchise in the NBA. He dropped the ball with his stupid 6'9 vision and then delayed the inevitable rebuild causing this team tanking the past 2 years with only the 9th pick to show for it.

With that said, I 100% want Masai back. He's working towards building something great here again and this upcoming season will be evident of that imo.


I think this illustrates that many people only love the idea of draft picks and don't care about the draft picks themselves. Saying we "Only" have the 9th pick to show since the rebuild while we added 5 rookies this past season seems really odd. How many players picked ahead of Walter are you definitively taking over him anyways? That was a dumpster fire draft class for elite talent, even a top 5 pick wasn't anything to get excited about.


And yet we still tanked to keep our top 6 protected pick unsuccessfully. If Masai was able to get good 5 rookies with where we picked then imagine the impactful rookie he could have picked with a much higher selection?

Our current team is missing top end talent and that's what we were hoping this current draft was going to help with since we won't be drafting high anytime soon unless it's a disastrous situation.
Tor_Raps
RealGM
Posts: 33,004
And1: 47,808
Joined: Oct 14, 2018

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#88 » by Tor_Raps » Thu May 15, 2025 5:28 pm

LascelleL wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
LascelleL wrote:
Scottie was the ROY in 2022...we made the playoffs in 2022 and put up a great fight.

We flipped Pascal and OG into RJ, Quickley, Ingram, Jakobe and more....Like very bad? The Wizards, Hornets are very bad.


Sorry but my standards aren't not being a bottom 3 franchise in the NBA. He dropped the ball with his stupid 6'9 vision and then delayed the inevitable rebuild causing this team tanking the past 2 years with only the 9th pick to show for it.

With that said, I 100% want Masai back. He's working towards building something great here again and this upcoming season will be evident of that imo.


You're a Raptors fan.....What standards do you have in place that weren't put there by Masai?

And we've never been a bottom 3 franchise. We are actually a well respected franchise that many consider well run. Part of the reason for the slow decline from the Chip season was losing Kawhi. Not a lot teams can bounce back from losing their star player and it was unheard of to lose him after a chip.


I agree, I am using the standards of this franchise that Masai himself helped in place. That's exactly why I said I don't want him to go anywhere but that doesn't mean I can't call out his poor performance since 2021.

Kawhi left 6 seasons ago, I didn't expect a championship contender right away after that. It's fair to expect much better than what we've seen since though. Again, I hope next season is the beginning of our upwards trend to Make The Raptors Great Again lol.
MiamiSPX
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,449
And1: 6,817
Joined: May 19, 2023
         

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#89 » by MiamiSPX » Thu May 15, 2025 5:40 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:I have zero confidence Ed Rogers hires someone other than a retread yes man whose more concerned about maximizing concession prices than drafting and trading for the right guys.


Are you not enjoying the 2nd consecutive year of a torrid Jays offense?
User avatar
Raps in 4
RealGM
Posts: 67,354
And1: 62,275
Joined: Nov 01, 2008
Location: Toronto
 

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#90 » by Raps in 4 » Thu May 15, 2025 5:45 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:I have zero confidence Ed Rogers hires someone other than a retread yes man whose more concerned about maximizing concession prices than drafting and trading for the right guys.


Are you not enjoying the 2nd consecutive year of a torrid Jays offense?


I'm enjoying year 9 of zero playoff wins and a bottom-5 farm system.

But at least Mark repainted the Skydome.
MiamiSPX
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,449
And1: 6,817
Joined: May 19, 2023
         

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#91 » by MiamiSPX » Thu May 15, 2025 6:03 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:I have zero confidence Ed Rogers hires someone other than a retread yes man whose more concerned about maximizing concession prices than drafting and trading for the right guys.


Are you not enjoying the 2nd consecutive year of a torrid Jays offense?


I'm enjoying year 9 of zero playoff wins and a bottom-5 farm system.

But at least Mark repainted the Skydome.


At least we have the Leafs. Oh, wait....
User avatar
Scase
RealGM
Posts: 14,640
And1: 10,782
Joined: Feb 02, 2009
Location: Ottawa by way of MTL
       

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#92 » by Scase » Thu May 15, 2025 6:11 pm

Raptors Realtor wrote:
Scase wrote:
Tripod wrote:This is why Masai is gonna swing a big deal.

Adds a big name...harder to not re-sign.
And if they don't, he shows everyone Kawhi was not a fluke. And if he overpay, won't be around for the fallout.

It's why he should be signed ASAP. Tie his future to his moves.

And if he fails to do that, but they re-sign him, then what?

Realistically, holding any exec to a single big name signing is a pretty stupid reason to sign or not. Players usually head where they want to nowadays, not sure I would put that on execs.

CPT wrote:I kind of think Masai deserves to be fired (or not offered another, even more lucrative, extension) based on the last 5 years, but I’d still probably take him over MLSE’s next choice. You could also easily argue he deserves a chance to redeem himself. I don’t think you can argue the last 5 years have been good.

I like the idea of having that organizational stability, and while we haven’t found it in a coach yet, if we can get it from leadership, we probably should.


This is kinda where I'm at, I by no means think we should keep him because of the chicken littles out there thinking he's the only good exec in the entire world and no one out there could possibly do any better, but the consistency/stability is good to have. That said, he's been pretty awful the last 5 or so years, so not sure if that's the consistency we should want.


Whenever I hear someone who's indifferent or think we should fire/let Masai walk, I always ask, who would you replace him with? And so far, everytime, it's crickets... So who would you replace him with that isn't currently employed by another team, or at least realistically obtainable, that you are confident would do a better job?

Well yeah, it's not my job to find that person. Just because I think someone is doing a poor job, it doesn't mean I'm the one who needs to have the answer. I trust the people who actually hire and know the industry to do it. If they think Masai is the best bet, then so be it.

What I think is worse is the constant arguments of "Well there is no one better". Yeah, we heard that with BC as well, until we found someone better. No one wanted Nurse gone, until they did. I'm not saying fire Masai for the sake of firing him, I'm saying he's been doing a poor job for years now, and it's not unreasonable to think that someone else might do a better job. Sometimes you just need a change.

We aren't the spurs with Pop, we don't have decades of excellence to point to as a reason to have faith, we had 5 years of a climb resulting in an awesome chip, and we've had 5 years of a decline, resulting in some of the worst records in our franchises history and without much to show for it. I think it's pretty reasonable.

Would you keep an employee on board who has been bad for half a decade? I don't think I would. You also have to take into account that this employee in question is the highest paid employee in the company, and you're getting bad or mediocre results. That's flat out not worth it, what we've seen the last 5 or so years does not match the price tag, and if I'm running a business and can find someone to do the same job at a fraction of the price, why do I pay more than I need to?

Masai hasn't done anything to justify his cost in the last 5 years, he's no different than a player at this point, he had a banger few years, signed a big contract, and then declined massively. Should that necessitate another big contract? It wouldn't with a player, and it shouldn't with an exec.
Image
Props TZ!
User avatar
Tacoma
Head Coach
Posts: 6,441
And1: 5,525
Joined: Dec 08, 2004

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#93 » by Tacoma » Thu May 15, 2025 6:16 pm

kalel123 wrote:Not gonna shed any tears if he's gone. He just hasn't been the same since the championship. Been asleep at the wheel for years. And despite some ok moves here and there that shows signs he might finally be waking up, the team is still not in a very good place...


I reckon he's largely been the same since the championship but results have been poorer. He's very analytical and takes a long time to make decisions. For example, 3/5 of starting lineup (DD/Lowry/JV) for 2017-18 season were still Colangelo guys before Masai finally traded DD for Kawhi. Many fans thought he should've been traded 2 years earlier after the Washington sweep, but in this case the delayed decision worked out for the better. Conversely, his delay to trade FVV didn't work out as he left for nothing. Similar delay decision, different result.

Frankly, I think Masai's probably a goner. When he re-signed in 2021 Masai said of Ed Rogers "We have a great relationship. We've had the same exact relationship for 10 years." The Toronto Star reported in 2021 that Ed had disagreed with plans to re-sign Masai as vice chairman and president of basketball operations, saying he was not worth the amount offered. So it's not that Ed hated him but rather he thought Masai was overpaid.

But Larry Tanenbaum as MLSE Chair got to make the final decision, so Ed was overruled and Masai got his fancy titles & money. However Ed holds the right to buy out Larry's ownership shares when it ends next year. So Larry is almost surely gone and then what happens to Masai? If Ed didn't think Masai was worth his contract in 2021, then with poor results since then and with the same mindset, he'll ask Masai to take a pay cut which Masai will decline. So, without Larry to overrule, Masai is likely a goner IMO.
EH15
General Manager
Posts: 8,108
And1: 7,166
Joined: Jan 15, 2008

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#94 » by EH15 » Thu May 15, 2025 6:17 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:This is a team Masai leak. He is looking for an extension and applying a bit of pressure. Need to have a market to either start negotiations or increase an offer.

If that's the case then he might as well be gone. Since last negotiations, Rogers has increased their stake to 75% with the right to buy out Larry T next year, and the team has not moved forward much at all. Masai has no leverage.
JB7
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,444
And1: 2,051
Joined: Jun 03, 2002

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#95 » by JB7 » Thu May 15, 2025 6:20 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:
Are you not enjoying the 2nd consecutive year of a torrid Jays offense?


I'm enjoying year 9 of zero playoff wins and a bottom-5 farm system.

But at least Mark repainted the Skydome.


At least we have the Leafs. Oh, wait....


This is the only solace I'm clinging to right now with Masai, because I think Ted has wanted to let him go for awhile. The fact that Rogers other big ticket teams can't get it done, makes me hope that Ted will have no choice but to resign Masai, to ensure one of the big 3 is run properly.
User avatar
Raps in 4
RealGM
Posts: 67,354
And1: 62,275
Joined: Nov 01, 2008
Location: Toronto
 

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#96 » by Raps in 4 » Thu May 15, 2025 6:23 pm

JB7 wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
I'm enjoying year 9 of zero playoff wins and a bottom-5 farm system.

But at least Mark repainted the Skydome.


At least we have the Leafs. Oh, wait....


This is the only solace I'm clinging to right now with Masai, because I think Ted has wanted to let him go for awhile. The fact that Rogers other big ticket teams can't get it done, makes me hope that Ted will have no choice but to resign Masai, to ensure one of the big 3 is run properly.


Ed doesn't care about winning, as evidenced by him hiring a failed executive like Mark Shapiro, and then continuing to employ him for a decade.
ATLTimekeeper
RealGM
Posts: 42,757
And1: 23,868
Joined: Apr 28, 2008

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#97 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu May 15, 2025 6:24 pm

Zeno wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Zeno wrote:I just don’t see Masai wanting that job. It comes with a meddling owner’s son and a gm under him recently hired that he’d supposedly have to keep.


Masai worked fine under Tanenbaum, who was a meddling owner. And he of course worked under Kroenke, who gave himself a basketball exec position.

Saleh is from Edmonton, and worked with the Spurs and Warriors. Masai worked with Bobby without having known him. I thought the interesting part was Giannis' agent also being in the mix. Saratsis and Masai are close. It could be that there's a Masai-Saratsis-Saleh framework like how Masai-Weltman and Webster worked together initially.

I have no real idea how things are in the organization but I never got the impression that Tanenbaum wanted to get involved in basketball decisions in any way ever. The Atlanta owner's son is reported to have got directly involved in basketball decisions. Masai left Denver to move up in pay of course but also in decision making. Just because he worked well in a bad situation in the past doesn't mean he will willing go to one in the future. It is not that I think he stays just the Atlanta situation seems like an undesirable one. I'll trust you one the Saratsis/Masai connection. Maybe Masai doesn't mind that the GM is hired already and that the owner's son wants to have a say in roster decisions but that is a less than ideal situation. The Raptors' situation is not that desirable either. Just expect Masai to want a job with more control not a step back to a level he has advanced past.


Joe Dumars went from Detroit to... Sacramento. Danny Ainge went to Utah as an advisor and worked his way into a takeover. Like, just because you build a winner doesn't mean you get to call your shot. The Raptors are in shambles right now and the Knicks and Wizards have moved on.
douggood
General Manager
Posts: 9,767
And1: 6,551
Joined: Jun 13, 2001

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#98 » by douggood » Thu May 15, 2025 6:26 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
JB7 wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:
At least we have the Leafs. Oh, wait....


This is the only solace I'm clinging to right now with Masai, because I think Ted has wanted to let him go for awhile. The fact that Rogers other big ticket teams can't get it done, makes me hope that Ted will have no choice but to resign Masai, to ensure one of the big 3 is run properly.


Ed doesn't care about winning, as evidenced by him hiring a failed executive like Mark Shapiro, and then continuing to employ him for a decade.

have you seen the blue jays payroll? if he didnt care about winning that thing would be not that high.
making bad decisions is not the same thing as not wanting to win.
User avatar
Mattatron
Veteran
Posts: 2,625
And1: 1,916
Joined: Feb 15, 2019
 

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#99 » by Mattatron » Thu May 15, 2025 6:28 pm

Please go, Masai. It was a nice run from '13-'20. But the last years were horrible. Masai is Vandeweghe Bad. And this Franchise is in dire need of some fresh blood, with a new vision. Everything has an end. Masai reached the peak 5 years ago and is declining since then.
MiamiSPX
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,449
And1: 6,817
Joined: May 19, 2023
         

Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#100 » by MiamiSPX » Thu May 15, 2025 6:29 pm

douggood wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
JB7 wrote:
This is the only solace I'm clinging to right now with Masai, because I think Ted has wanted to let him go for awhile. The fact that Rogers other big ticket teams can't get it done, makes me hope that Ted will have no choice but to resign Masai, to ensure one of the big 3 is run properly.


Ed doesn't care about winning, as evidenced by him hiring a failed executive like Mark Shapiro, and then continuing to employ him for a decade.

have you seen the blue jays payroll? if he didnt care about winning that thing would be not that high.
making bad decisions is not the same thing as not wanting to win.


Agreed. He will spend money, just not wisely. Basically how the Leafs have been run for the last decade. Spending has never been a problem, it's the soft-ass players they blew their wad on.

Return to Toronto Raptors