Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available

[WiggOuts]

You guys know how Masai deals. All of the noise usually ends up being exactly that, noise. If he's trying to get KD it'll most likely be for either RJ and filler or IQ and filler. I highly doubt he moves the 9th pick in a deal for a 37 year old. This is like his 4th lotto pick, I think they draft someone

[Kingsway_fan]

If it were Giannis, I would go for it... but 37 yr old Durant??? Don't believe it...

[WuTang_OG]

Darko “this is year 1 of our rebuild ”

Masai “na fk that”

[Raptors Realtor]

This feeling a lot like the last days of the Bryan Colangelo era which led off with the Shaun Marion and Rudy Gay trade....

Right! Shortsightedly chasing immediate improvement rather than seeing a group of young guys progress.

This hasn’t been Masai’s MO - it’s been more of a patient, build from within approach and then striking when the iron is hot. Why the change? The iron is not hot.

This has to be Ed Rogers related.

totally.....they saw Leafs not go for it, and Brendan Shanan got fired, so Raps need to go for it!!

Totally irrelevant... Leafs haven't won a cup since '67 and Shanahan didn't lead them past the 2nd round once in his tenure... Masai has already won us a Chip and got us to the eastern conference finals the following season. There's no way Masai 'should' be feeling the heat like Shanny was.

[Clutch0z24]

Doesnt mean everything he says is right. In the end it is hearsay. I am not claiming that this are all made up, but in the end we have seen so often that all the reports that came out, where completly wrong suddenly.

Yeah but these guys are so well connected they would not say it on national TV if it were false....It would ruin their credibility if they do that and i doubt they would put out fake news like that if they have not got it from a source they trust to be fact....

How would it ruin their credibility, it's not like a GM usually comes out and says otherwise publicly regardless. We've heard Masai/Bobby/Darkos say Scottie is franchise and then say reports say he's available for Giannis / who's right who's wrong, who knows

What on earth does a reporter who is obviously well connected with every team in the league like Windy have to gain by going on national TV and lying about what the Raptors are offering in trades?.....Does he gain anything by saying this if its false or fake?....No....He is obviously just saying what hes hearing by a source he trusts as facts....Or else he won't say it at all....

[6ixpessant]

Still we do t know his biases, his allegiances, his friends or his enemies / Also a lot of these guys make up their own assumptions

Toronto, not really tanking, and have a 9th pick in a flat draft, doesn't take a rocket sciencetist to say Toronto could look to move it / again I take all these guys with a grain of salt

Why are you guys analyzing a guy that peddles rumors? He's not a journalist. Wind and Shams... they peddle crap and really don't know anything.

Lol....Same thing was said about Woj when weeks before Kawhi went to the Clippers Woj was saying on TV "Kawhi is going to the Clippers"....Every Raptor poster here was calling Woj a fraud and he doesn't know nothing and he is just putting out fake news.....When the news comes out about something YOU personally hate or don't want to see happen you call them frauds or fake news....When the news is about something YOU personally agree with or want to happen you take these guys words as gospel...

A broken clock is right twice a day. You guys are ....

You know they make stuff up right? Have you met Shams? That guy would step on his mother... sociopath.

Woz didn't drive the Kawhi thing... Las Vegas did. Go look. As soon as Vegas moved it... Woz was in. There are other examples of these dunderheads paying attention to Las Vegas.

They also don't have to be accountable.. something else happens and ya'll forget. Sports "journalism" used to tell stories.. now it's a race to the bottom and it's so dang profitable.

[Dalek]

Sounds like the deal we offered to Suns ....Yak/RJ or Quick/9th pick for KD/29th pick.....Sounds like we already made that offer for KD....Wonder if that will get it done but i won't be shocked if it does...

If this is true, I might be right that this whole FO needs to be removed. KD is old and has no guarantee to stay here anyway. And he will play with no C again just like in Phoenix. Wonderful.

[Brinbe]

Masai is def rooting around for a deal. Way too much smoke being reported. The question is if our offer even beats out what else is out there and if KD (or whomever) is even open to playing here. I'm sure he'd still prefer SA/Houston/Miami

I get the desperation to add a star and selling on some combo of RJ/IQ/Yak/9 isn't bad in theory but even assuming that does fetch KD we'd still be a far ways away from competing for anything as that roster is lopsided (whilst missing a C) and the window with an aging KD would be very short.

I can see Ja being an option but Memphis could probably get more in return in open bidding if he were available.

[RapsFanInOhio]

They must feel like there’s an opportunity out there to really make a run for it if they’re considering making some consolidation trades this soon. I mean, the current roster as constructed is not a tax team and it is an improvement over what we’ve seen the last couple of seasons. Adding Ingram alone is going to give you a true scoring element that just hasn’t been there since Kawhi left, even if there is a huge amount of risk involved with his health. To be truthful, this roster as constructed probably isn’t good enough and a consolidation trade may be necessary, but we have almost never made a major move without seeing the constructed team on the court together, so I’m baffled as to why it is happening now. To further the point, this team actually showed signs of really competitiveness later in the season without Ingram playing a minute.

..unless it’s for Giannis. I wonder if that’s maybe what’s going on here. Sure, we’d be willing to trade Barrett / IQ and Poeltl for a Giannis package, but I can’t understand at all why you’d move any two of those guys in a KD deal. Poeltl and Barrett are as impactful to the roster as KD would be at his age, like it or not. He wasn’t good enough to carry Phoenix to the playoffs this season, so why would him coming here make much difference if you’re moving off of your starting PG or C.

A deal really may be imminent here though. Fischer and Stein have legitimate connections with us, and there was a ton of smoke about the Ingram deal before it happened. If it’s something like Barrett, Poeltl, and we move down from 9, I might be out on Masai permanently. A team with a gaping hole at center and no way to fix it isn’t winning anything.

[SpezNc]

Will Toronto actually go beyond all the noise about their willingness to gamble on Durant without a long-term contract commitment to make a determined push for KD?

Sources say that the Raptors would be willing to part with either RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley for a significant roster upgrade. Several
league figures with knowledge of the Raptors' thinking have likewise asserted that they could show a willingness to move center Jakob Poeltl as well ... provided that the trade in question brought back Durant.

The Raptors' No. 9 pick is also increasingly viewed as perhaps the most likely top-10 pick in the draft to be traded. My sense is that Toronto would prefer to simply trade down rather than trade out of the first-round completely. Perhaps there is some swap potential in a deal with Phoenix and the Suns' No. 29 overall selection.

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Sounds like the offer could potentially be Quickley / Poeltl / 9th pick for Durant / 29th pick

There is obvious reasons why we should not do this trade. I am not going to convince anyone we should do it.

But I don’t know in the same time I found myself thinking it’s intriguing!

[arbsn]

We do not want Kevin Durant wtf??

That would be beyond stupid. He only has a couple of years left ship him to a real contender.

I’d only trade 9+RJ if we get Giannis for the love of god do not trade RJ and 9 for Durant or Cam Johnson

[CazOnReal]

The key word to keep in mind is "SIGNIFICANT"

I have a hard time seeing any obvious significant upgrades outside of maybe trading IQ + 9 for Darius Garland. Yeah KD is a talent upgrade but he makes the team significantly more flawed given how much you'd need to give up to acquire him.

[RapsFanInOhio]

For what it’s worth, I want no part of Ja. Way too much risk there for a small dude who isn’t a great shooter. That’s not going to end well. He wasn’t even that good this season.

KD is better, sure, but you don’t take a gamble on a 37 year old player at this point in the rebuilding process. When has that ever worked out?

[Prestige]

He’s 37 in a few months, achilles and other injuries. It makes 0 sense for this team. We’re not winning a championship in the next year or two.

They should go after guys like Garland, Ja Morant, etc.

[RapsFanInOhio]

Will Toronto actually go beyond all the noise about their willingness to gamble on Durant without a long-term contract commitment to make a determined push for KD?

Sources say that the Raptors would be willing to part with either RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley for a significant roster upgrade. Several
league figures with knowledge of the Raptors' thinking have likewise asserted that they could show a willingness to move center Jakob Poeltl as well ... provided that the trade in question brought back Durant.

The Raptors' No. 9 pick is also increasingly viewed as perhaps the most likely top-10 pick in the draft to be traded. My sense is that Toronto would prefer to simply trade down rather than trade out of the first-round completely. Perhaps there is some swap potential in a deal with Phoenix and the Suns' No. 29 overall selection.

Read on Twitter

Sounds like the offer could potentially be Quickley / Poeltl / 9th pick for Durant / 29th pick

There is obvious reasons why we should not do this trade. I am not going to convince anyone we should do it.

But I don’t know in the same time I found myself thinking it’s intriguing!

How do you fix the Center spot? That is a gaping hole, as some combination of KD/Barrett/Barnes/Ingram offers very little rim protection.

[MoneyBall]

I'm kind of worried that Masai and staff aren't super high on someone with the #9 pick. I have a hard time believing they'd make this pick as available if we had a top 5 pick.

[Clutch0z24]

Masai is def rooting around for a deal. Way too much smoke being reported. The question is if our offer even beats out what else is out there and if KD (or whomever) is even open to playing here. I'm sure he'd still prefer SA/Houston/Miami

I get the desperation to add a star and selling on some combo of RJ/IQ/Yak/9 isn't bad in theory but even assuming that does fetch KD we'd still be a far ways away from competing for anything as that roster is lopsided (whilst missing a C) and the window with an aging KD would be very short.

I can see Ja being an option but Memphis could probably get more in return in open bidding if he were available.

As reports suggest i don't think Suns or Raptors care if he is unhappy about playing there....I think Suns want the best offer and Raptors are willing to take the gamble.....As for if we have the best offer....We do have the best draft pick on the table at 9 and a player like Yak who they are looking for....IQ would be a good fit as well....

It all depends what other teams are offering...If Suns value a player around the 9th pick and a good C like Yak over Gobert with not much add ons, or a Kat with no real add ons....That could be a thing...But i think ontop of Yak we prolly have the best add ons in the deal with 9th/IQ...

I doubt Rockets are offering future firsts it sounds like its the 10th pick, Jalen Green + Filler....

[TakeYourHeart]

Will Toronto actually go beyond all the noise about their willingness to gamble on Durant without a long-term contract commitment to make a determined push for KD?

Sources say that the Raptors would be willing to part with either RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley for a significant roster upgrade. Several
league figures with knowledge of the Raptors' thinking have likewise asserted that they could show a willingness to move center Jakob Poeltl as well ... provided that the trade in question brought back Durant.

The Raptors' No. 9 pick is also increasingly viewed as perhaps the most likely top-10 pick in the draft to be traded. My sense is that Toronto would prefer to simply trade down rather than trade out of the first-round completely. Perhaps there is some swap potential in a deal with Phoenix and the Suns' No. 29 overall selection.

Read on Twitter

Sounds like the offer could potentially be Quickley / Poeltl / 9th pick for Durant / 29th pick

There is obvious reasons why we should not do this trade. I am not going to convince anyone we should do it.

But I don’t know in the same time I found myself thinking it’s intriguing!

One year of 37 y/o KD with no C and no PG. Where do I sign up?!

[SpezNc]

Read on Twitter

Sounds like the offer could potentially be Quickley / Poeltl / 9th pick for Durant / 29th pick

There is obvious reasons why we should not do this trade. I am not going to convince anyone we should do it.

But I don’t know in the same time I found myself thinking it’s intriguing!

How do you fix the Center spot? That is a gaping hole, as some combination of KD/Barrett/Barnes/Ingram offers very little rim protection.

Obviously would need a subsequent trade or move

Could RJ + 2026 1st be flipped for a C

But yeah obviously the big hole at C is one of many downside doing such a move.

[Brinbe]

Will Toronto actually go beyond all the noise about their willingness to gamble on Durant without a long-term contract commitment to make a determined push for KD?

Sources say that the Raptors would be willing to part with either RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley for a significant roster upgrade. Several
league figures with knowledge of the Raptors' thinking have likewise asserted that they could show a willingness to move center Jakob Poeltl as well ... provided that the trade in question brought back Durant.

The Raptors' No. 9 pick is also increasingly viewed as perhaps the most likely top-10 pick in the draft to be traded. My sense is that Toronto would prefer to simply trade down rather than trade out of the first-round completely. Perhaps there is some swap potential in a deal with Phoenix and the Suns' No. 29 overall selection.

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Lol ok with the Windy reporting this makes sense now. This is the Suns using as us leverage though Windy to get the Rockets/Spurs/ Heat to up their offers. Simple as that.

I don't know if there's an real threat of KD coming here but trading all of that for a one to three year KD rental would be pretty dumb but maybe they're that desperate to get a big name in-house.