OT: Blue Jays beat Yankees, move on to ALCS

[Boogie!]

Ok, thanks for giving me another reason to not give a **** about MLB, it's already the joke of the 4 major sports because of a ridiculously long regular season, massive disparity in amounts of money teams spend on their rosters, and overweight given to inter division play for literally no good reason, if more teams are conceding games this way I'll stick to the NBA from now on.

did you just suggest that using a position player with an 11 run deficit in the 9th was "conceding" the game? guy, it's cool if baseball isn't for you, but hating for no reason is ignorant. i'm not a hockey fan because i don't find it entertaining, but i'm not gonna pretend I have enough expertise to hate on it for specific sport related nuances. just say you don't really give a **** about baseball, know nothing about it, and move on.

I wouldn't call myself a baseball fan, I watch the occasional game when the Jays are good (hasn't happened much lately) and I have zero experience watching teams turn a game into a home run derby equivalent. I've been watching a bit recently because of the Jays' hot streak, I guess that's not allowed here, you need to be a lifer or you're not allowed to post.

I compare it to the NBA where teams play their G-League players at the end of the game once it's out of reach, which is fine because the players who are in the game are actually trying to win and showcase themselves to prove they belong in the NBA and usually the team that's winning by a landslide will also pull their starters and play the guys they are trying to develop as well. If that's what happened here I'd have no issue with it but it isn't, they had a guy who was a pitcher they were trying to develop and he didn't even make it through an inning, then they restored to this, the Jays still had their best players coming up to bat. I don't know what that is supposed to prove or why this is a record that means anything.

you're allowed to post, but your comment was ignorant. the game was 12-1 in the 9th inning. in baseball that is a blowout, and in blowouts teams sometimes use position players to pitch instead of wasting an actual bullpen arm for no reason. like people said, this is normal throughout the league, there's no need to overthink it, argue the logic, it's really that simple. the fact that you're trying to argue and rationalize this shows that you don't know enough about baseball to comment on the situation, and that's entirely fine, you admitted that you don't really watch baseball. but it's pointless to argue a point when you don't know enough about the context of the sport. like i said, i don't really watch hockey, so when things are happening that don't make sense to me in the sport, i'll ask actual hockey fans "why." i'm not gonna create some pointless argument because i really don't know enough about the sport. this is what you're doing here.

[ciueli]

did you just suggest that using a position player with an 11 run deficit in the 9th was "conceding" the game? guy, it's cool if baseball isn't for you, but hating for no reason is ignorant. i'm not a hockey fan because i don't find it entertaining, but i'm not gonna pretend I have enough expertise to hate on it for specific sport related nuances. just say you don't really give a **** about baseball, know nothing about it, and move on.

I wouldn't call myself a baseball fan, I watch the occasional game when the Jays are good (hasn't happened much lately) and I have zero experience watching teams turn a game into a home run derby equivalent. I've been watching a bit recently because of the Jays' hot streak, I guess that's not allowed here, you need to be a lifer or you're not allowed to post.

I compare it to the NBA where teams play their G-League players at the end of the game once it's out of reach, which is fine because the players who are in the game are actually trying to win and showcase themselves to prove they belong in the NBA and usually the team that's winning by a landslide will also pull their starters and play the guys they are trying to develop as well. If that's what happened here I'd have no issue with it but it isn't, they had a guy who was a pitcher they were trying to develop and he didn't even make it through an inning, then they restored to this, the Jays still had their best players coming up to bat. I don't know what that is supposed to prove or why this is a record that means anything.

you're allowed to post, but your comment was ignorant. the game was 12-1 in the 9th inning. in baseball that is a blowout, and in blowouts teams sometimes use position players to pitch instead of wasting an actual bullpen arm for no reason. like people said, this is normal throughout the league, there's no need to overthink it, argue the logic, it's really that simple. the fact that you're trying to argue and rationalize this shows that you don't know enough about baseball to comment on the situation, and that's entirely fine, you admitted that you don't really watch baseball. but it's pointless to argue a point when you don't know enough about the context of the sport. like i said, i don't really watch hockey, so when things are happening that don't make sense to me in the sport, i'll ask actual hockey fans "why." i'm not gonna create some pointless argument because i really don't know enough about the sport. this is what you're doing here.

I get why you and others are trying to shout me down on this, because deep down it makes you uncomfortable too. Why are these guys jacking their hit and home run numbers against no competition? What does this mean for end of season stats and the conversation people like us have about players?

Really, they should change the rule and allow a team to formally concede if this is what they're going to do. I guess everyone is ok with it because they want more "historic" and "record breaking" to boost viewership or something? That's all I can think of.

[Boogie!]

I wouldn't call myself a baseball fan, I watch the occasional game when the Jays are good (hasn't happened much lately) and I have zero experience watching teams turn a game into a home run derby equivalent. I've been watching a bit recently because of the Jays' hot streak, I guess that's not allowed here, you need to be a lifer or you're not allowed to post.

I compare it to the NBA where teams play their G-League players at the end of the game once it's out of reach, which is fine because the players who are in the game are actually trying to win and showcase themselves to prove they belong in the NBA and usually the team that's winning by a landslide will also pull their starters and play the guys they are trying to develop as well. If that's what happened here I'd have no issue with it but it isn't, they had a guy who was a pitcher they were trying to develop and he didn't even make it through an inning, then they restored to this, the Jays still had their best players coming up to bat. I don't know what that is supposed to prove or why this is a record that means anything.

you're allowed to post, but your comment was ignorant. the game was 12-1 in the 9th inning. in baseball that is a blowout, and in blowouts teams sometimes use position players to pitch instead of wasting an actual bullpen arm for no reason. like people said, this is normal throughout the league, there's no need to overthink it, argue the logic, it's really that simple. the fact that you're trying to argue and rationalize this shows that you don't know enough about baseball to comment on the situation, and that's entirely fine, you admitted that you don't really watch baseball. but it's pointless to argue a point when you don't know enough about the context of the sport. like i said, i don't really watch hockey, so when things are happening that don't make sense to me in the sport, i'll ask actual hockey fans "why." i'm not gonna create some pointless argument because i really don't know enough about the sport. this is what you're doing here.

I get why you and others are trying to shout me down on this, because deep down it makes you uncomfortable too. Why are these guys jacking their hit and home run numbers against no competition? What does this mean for end of season stats and the conversation people like us have about players?

Really, they should change the rule and allow a team to formally concede if this is what they're going to do. I guess everyone is ok with it because they want more "historic" and "record breaking" to boost viewership or something? That's all I can think of.

no, no one is uncomfortable. it's just people that actually watch baseball understand that you're just yelling at clouds at this point. if you're trolling congratulations.

[Potential]

I wouldn't call myself a baseball fan, I watch the occasional game when the Jays are good (hasn't happened much lately) and I have zero experience watching teams turn a game into a home run derby equivalent. I've been watching a bit recently because of the Jays' hot streak, I guess that's not allowed here, you need to be a lifer or you're not allowed to post.

I compare it to the NBA where teams play their G-League players at the end of the game once it's out of reach, which is fine because the players who are in the game are actually trying to win and showcase themselves to prove they belong in the NBA and usually the team that's winning by a landslide will also pull their starters and play the guys they are trying to develop as well. If that's what happened here I'd have no issue with it but it isn't, they had a guy who was a pitcher they were trying to develop and he didn't even make it through an inning, then they restored to this, the Jays still had their best players coming up to bat. I don't know what that is supposed to prove or why this is a record that means anything.

you're allowed to post, but your comment was ignorant. the game was 12-1 in the 9th inning. in baseball that is a blowout, and in blowouts teams sometimes use position players to pitch instead of wasting an actual bullpen arm for no reason. like people said, this is normal throughout the league, there's no need to overthink it, argue the logic, it's really that simple. the fact that you're trying to argue and rationalize this shows that you don't know enough about baseball to comment on the situation, and that's entirely fine, you admitted that you don't really watch baseball. but it's pointless to argue a point when you don't know enough about the context of the sport. like i said, i don't really watch hockey, so when things are happening that don't make sense to me in the sport, i'll ask actual hockey fans "why." i'm not gonna create some pointless argument because i really don't know enough about the sport. this is what you're doing here.

I get why you and others are trying to shout me down on this, because deep down it makes you uncomfortable too. Why are these guys jacking their hit and home run numbers against no competition? What does this mean for end of season stats and the conversation people like us have about players?

Really, they should change the rule and allow a team to formally concede if this is what they're going to do. I guess everyone is ok with it because they want more "historic" and "record breaking" to boost viewership or something? That's all I can think of.

There were a couple of hard hit balls that barely got through the infield and would've ended the inning before the extra 4 runs. It's baseball u can throw position players out there to pitch all the time and not have a complete **** annihilation like yesterday. What u seen yesterday never happens. Our offense is just that elite and the best in the league for a reason. We couldn't even take anymore players out because of our injuries. Yesterday's starting lineup was pretty garbage to begin with

[gp2015]

Ok, thanks for giving me another reason to not give a **** about MLB, it's already the joke of the 4 major sports because of a ridiculously long regular season, massive disparity in amounts of money teams spend on their rosters, and overweight given to inter division play for literally no good reason, if more teams are conceding games this way I'll stick to the NBA from now on.

did you just suggest that using a position player with an 11 run deficit in the 9th was "conceding" the game? guy, it's cool if baseball isn't for you, but hating for no reason is ignorant. i'm not a hockey fan because i don't find it entertaining, but i'm not gonna pretend I have enough expertise to hate on it for specific sport related nuances. just say you don't really give a **** about baseball, know nothing about it, and move on.

I wouldn't call myself a baseball fan, I watch the occasional game when the Jays are good (hasn't happened much lately) and I have zero experience watching teams turn a game into a home run derby equivalent. I've been watching a bit recently because of the Jays' hot streak, I guess that's not allowed here, you need to be a lifer or you're not allowed to post.

I compare it to the NBA where teams play their G-League players at the end of the game once it's out of reach, which is fine because the players who are in the game are actually trying to win and showcase themselves to prove they belong in the NBA and usually the team that's winning by a landslide will also pull their starters and play the guys they are trying to develop as well. If that's what happened here I'd have no issue with it but it isn't, they had a guy who was a pitcher they were trying to develop and he didn't even make it through an inning, then they restored to this, the Jays still had their best players coming up to bat. I don't know what that is supposed to prove or why this is a record that means anything.

I don't really see much difference between garbage time in basketball and position players pitching in blowout losses.

In both instances, the teams are essentially waving the white flag and have given up trying to win the current game. In baseball, they save their pitchers for the next game and in basketball, they're taking the starters out to rest for the next game and to prevent injury. It's the smart thing to do. It's one game out of an entire season.

In basketball, there's not much development going on during these minutes. It's called garbage time for a reason and usually you empty your bench and the guys who never get minutes in a regular competitive game get some playing time. If players actually need development, you either play them during regular minutes or you send them down to your development team. They're not going to learn much from playing in garbage time.

[pingpongrac]

I don't see how enjoying 8 runs off a non-pitcher is something to get excited about. But somehow that's "historic" and something to be proud of? You say pessimistic and I say realistic, I don't understand why everyone on this board gets so upset when all I do is point out the truth and not a rose-coloured glasses view of the world that so many on here seem to have.

You say it’s realistic and not a rose-coloured glasses view of the world then in the very next post you go on to say that MLB is the joke of major league sports while not being aware of the fact that position players are constantly being used in blowouts nowadays. If you aren’t as educated on the current state of the league and think it’s a joke anyway, why are you just downplaying the success of the Jays this season and their historic series against the Rockies? That’s not realism. That is pessimism at its finest.

It seems to me like you are really insecure about the Jays in spite of their recent success, nothing I've said is "pessimism at its finest", just being realistic that they need to pick it up after a few lacklustre series against teams they should be beating (Orioles and Royals, who they just went a combined 2-5 against). As for "historic" I think I already covered that bit.

I'm not insecure about the Jays. I am realistic when it comes to baseball though, and I am well aware of the fact that they aren't going to sweep every single series even if you think otherwise. This isn't the NBA or NFL we are talking about where the best teams in history win ~90% of their games; the top MLB teams barely eclipse 100 wins (62% winning percentage) and the most dominant teams of the decade were just above a 70% winning percentage.

It was historic. Toronto had the most hits in a 3-game series in ~100 years while outscoring the Rockies 45-6. You can continue to handwave it off as "just a good team doing what it's supposed to do against a bottom dweller," but the fact that this happens so infrequently in baseball when teams play 162 games and ~50 series each season should be enough evidence that what the Jays did this week was extremely impressive and in fact historic.

[beanbag]

I don't see how enjoying 8 runs off a non-pitcher is something to get excited about. But somehow that's "historic" and something to be proud of? You say pessimistic and I say realistic, I don't understand why everyone on this board gets so upset when all I do is point out the truth and not a rose-coloured glasses view of the world that so many on here seem to have.

You say it’s realistic and not a rose-coloured glasses view of the world then in the very next post you go on to say that MLB is the joke of major league sports while not being aware of the fact that position players are constantly being used in blowouts nowadays. If you aren’t as educated on the current state of the league and think it’s a joke anyway, why are you just downplaying the success of the Jays this season and their historic series against the Rockies? That’s not realism. That is pessimism at its finest.

It seems to me like you are really insecure about the Jays in spite of their recent success, nothing I've said is "pessimism at its finest", just being realistic that they need to pick it up after a few lacklustre series against teams they should be beating (Orioles and Royals, who they just went a combined 2-5 against). As for "historic" I think I already covered that bit.

I mean if you cherry pick the Orioles and Royals series and ignore the fact they were like 21-4 before those and then swept the Rockies after that then are you really being realistic about what's going on?

[Boogie!]

You say it’s realistic and not a rose-coloured glasses view of the world then in the very next post you go on to say that MLB is the joke of major league sports while not being aware of the fact that position players are constantly being used in blowouts nowadays. If you aren’t as educated on the current state of the league and think it’s a joke anyway, why are you just downplaying the success of the Jays this season and their historic series against the Rockies? That’s not realism. That is pessimism at its finest.

It seems to me like you are really insecure about the Jays in spite of their recent success, nothing I've said is "pessimism at its finest", just being realistic that they need to pick it up after a few lacklustre series against teams they should be beating (Orioles and Royals, who they just went a combined 2-5 against). As for "historic" I think I already covered that bit.

I mean if you cherry pick the Orioles and Royals series and ignore the fact they were like 21-4 before those and then swept the Rockies after that then are you really being realistic about what's going on?

The guy admittedly said he doesn’t really watch baseball, I have no idea why he’s going crazy trying to argue his point.

[mihaic]

I wouldn't call myself a baseball fan, I watch the occasional game when the Jays are good (hasn't happened much lately) and I have zero experience watching teams turn a game into a home run derby equivalent. I've been watching a bit recently because of the Jays' hot streak, I guess that's not allowed here, you need to be a lifer or you're not allowed to post.

I compare it to the NBA where teams play their G-League players at the end of the game once it's out of reach, which is fine because the players who are in the game are actually trying to win and showcase themselves to prove they belong in the NBA and usually the team that's winning by a landslide will also pull their starters and play the guys they are trying to develop as well. If that's what happened here I'd have no issue with it but it isn't, they had a guy who was a pitcher they were trying to develop and he didn't even make it through an inning, then they restored to this, the Jays still had their best players coming up to bat. I don't know what that is supposed to prove or why this is a record that means anything.

you're allowed to post, but your comment was ignorant. the game was 12-1 in the 9th inning. in baseball that is a blowout, and in blowouts teams sometimes use position players to pitch instead of wasting an actual bullpen arm for no reason. like people said, this is normal throughout the league, there's no need to overthink it, argue the logic, it's really that simple. the fact that you're trying to argue and rationalize this shows that you don't know enough about baseball to comment on the situation, and that's entirely fine, you admitted that you don't really watch baseball. but it's pointless to argue a point when you don't know enough about the context of the sport. like i said, i don't really watch hockey, so when things are happening that don't make sense to me in the sport, i'll ask actual hockey fans "why." i'm not gonna create some pointless argument because i really don't know enough about the sport. this is what you're doing here.

I get why you and others are trying to shout me down on this, because deep down it makes you uncomfortable too. Why are these guys jacking their hit and home run numbers against no competition? What does this mean for end of season stats and the conversation people like us have about players?

Really, they should change the rule and allow a team to formally concede if this is what they're going to do. I guess everyone is ok with it because they want more "historic" and "record breaking" to boost viewership or something? That's all I can think of.

That is not happening in any sport. A hockey or soccer team won't concede when the score is 3-0, nor a basketball team down 30. What about the fans that paid the ticket. What you say doesn't make much sense.

I understand that the result of the game is decided, but that should not mean they cut it short.

[ciueli]

I don't really see much difference between garbage time in basketball and position players pitching in blowout losses.

In both instances, the teams are essentially waving the white flag and have given up trying to win the current game. In baseball, they save their pitchers for the next game and in basketball, they're taking the starters out to rest for the next game and to prevent injury. It's the smart thing to do. It's one game out of an entire season.

In basketball, there's not much development going on during these minutes. It's called garbage time for a reason and usually you empty your bench and the guys who never get minutes in a regular competitive game get some playing time. If players actually need development, you either play them during regular minutes or you send them down to your development team. They're not going to learn much from playing in garbage time.

It's very different because G-League players are actually trying to play well and perform to show scouts they are worth an NBA job. In the NBA when players do stat pad in the last seconds of a blowout game it often starts near fist fights (see Tristan Thompson last season against us), I'd say that's a significant difference.

[Los_29]

It's not as impressive when you actually watch the 9th inning in that third game of the series. Colorado didn't even have a real pitcher throwing, it was just a position player lobbing the ball like it was the Home Run Derby at the All-Star game. No surprise, the Jays hit multiple home runs and massively ran up the score.

If it’s not that impressive how come no team has done it?

Because other teams don't give up a bunch of home runs by not competing at the end of the game like Colorado just did because they have some semblance of pride even if they're losing?

Surely you don’t believe this nonsense. So in 125 years, no team has given up a bunch of runs at the end of the game? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

[ciueli]

you're allowed to post, but your comment was ignorant. the game was 12-1 in the 9th inning. in baseball that is a blowout, and in blowouts teams sometimes use position players to pitch instead of wasting an actual bullpen arm for no reason. like people said, this is normal throughout the league, there's no need to overthink it, argue the logic, it's really that simple. the fact that you're trying to argue and rationalize this shows that you don't know enough about baseball to comment on the situation, and that's entirely fine, you admitted that you don't really watch baseball. but it's pointless to argue a point when you don't know enough about the context of the sport. like i said, i don't really watch hockey, so when things are happening that don't make sense to me in the sport, i'll ask actual hockey fans "why." i'm not gonna create some pointless argument because i really don't know enough about the sport. this is what you're doing here.

I get why you and others are trying to shout me down on this, because deep down it makes you uncomfortable too. Why are these guys jacking their hit and home run numbers against no competition? What does this mean for end of season stats and the conversation people like us have about players?

Really, they should change the rule and allow a team to formally concede if this is what they're going to do. I guess everyone is ok with it because they want more "historic" and "record breaking" to boost viewership or something? That's all I can think of.

That is not happening in any sport. A hockey or soccer team won't concede when the score is 3-0, nor a basketball team down 30. What about the fans that paid the ticket. What you say doesn't make much sense.

I understand that the result of the game is decided, but that should not mean they cut it short.

They end games prematurely with no followup for rain delays, I don't see how this is much different. There's definitely a concept in baseball that "this is enough to decide the game", no reason not to extend it to this if the alternative is a farce.

[beanbag]

I get why you and others are trying to shout me down on this, because deep down it makes you uncomfortable too. Why are these guys jacking their hit and home run numbers against no competition? What does this mean for end of season stats and the conversation people like us have about players?

Really, they should change the rule and allow a team to formally concede if this is what they're going to do. I guess everyone is ok with it because they want more "historic" and "record breaking" to boost viewership or something? That's all I can think of.

That is not happening in any sport. A hockey or soccer team won't concede when the score is 3-0, nor a basketball team down 30. What about the fans that paid the ticket. What you say doesn't make much sense.

I understand that the result of the game is decided, but that should not mean they cut it short.

They end games prematurely with no followup for rain delays, I don't see how this is much different. There's definitely a concept in baseball that "this is enough to decide the game", no reason not to extend it to this if the alternative is a farce.

Your posts are a farce

[Tofubeque]

I don't really see much difference between garbage time in basketball and position players pitching in blowout losses.

In both instances, the teams are essentially waving the white flag and have given up trying to win the current game. In baseball, they save their pitchers for the next game and in basketball, they're taking the starters out to rest for the next game and to prevent injury. It's the smart thing to do. It's one game out of an entire season.

In basketball, there's not much development going on during these minutes. It's called garbage time for a reason and usually you empty your bench and the guys who never get minutes in a regular competitive game get some playing time. If players actually need development, you either play them during regular minutes or you send them down to your development team. They're not going to learn much from playing in garbage time.

It's very different because G-League players are actually trying to play well and perform to show scouts they are worth an NBA job. In the NBA when players do stat pad in the last seconds of a blowout game it often starts near fist fights (see Tristan Thompson last season against us), I'd say that's a significant difference.

I’d say the biggest difference is basketball is played on a timer, where as continuing to succeed in a baseball game actually extends the game, indefinitely. Usually that doesn’t matter much because at bats are so low percentage, even against junk pitching.

The unwritten rule is you don’t bunt and steal bases with a huge lead, but that’s about it. Nobody expects hitters to stand in and take 3 strikes to end the game, that’s not part of the sport. So if they continue to score runs oh well, more baseball for all. I think baseball fans are less uptight about these blowouts than I’m seeing here.

[Raps in 4]

I get why you and others are trying to shout me down on this, because deep down it makes you uncomfortable too. Why are these guys jacking their hit and home run numbers against no competition? What does this mean for end of season stats and the conversation people like us have about players?

Really, they should change the rule and allow a team to formally concede if this is what they're going to do. I guess everyone is ok with it because they want more "historic" and "record breaking" to boost viewership or something? That's all I can think of.

That is not happening in any sport. A hockey or soccer team won't concede when the score is 3-0, nor a basketball team down 30. What about the fans that paid the ticket. What you say doesn't make much sense.

I understand that the result of the game is decided, but that should not mean they cut it short.

They end games prematurely with no followup for rain delays, I don't see how this is much different. There's definitely a concept in baseball that "this is enough to decide the game", no reason not to extend it to this if the alternative is a farce.

So you think that basektball games should be called when a team goes down 40? Football games should be called when a team goes down 40-0? Soccer and hockey games should be called when a team goes down 7-0?

Cutting a game short because of the weather is not the same as cutting a game short because a team is losing by a lot.

[Tha Cynic]

I wouldn't call myself a baseball fan, I watch the occasional game when the Jays are good (hasn't happened much lately) and I have zero experience watching teams turn a game into a home run derby equivalent. I've been watching a bit recently because of the Jays' hot streak, I guess that's not allowed here, you need to be a lifer or you're not allowed to post.

I compare it to the NBA where teams play their G-League players at the end of the game once it's out of reach, which is fine because the players who are in the game are actually trying to win and showcase themselves to prove they belong in the NBA and usually the team that's winning by a landslide will also pull their starters and play the guys they are trying to develop as well. If that's what happened here I'd have no issue with it but it isn't, they had a guy who was a pitcher they were trying to develop and he didn't even make it through an inning, then they restored to this, the Jays still had their best players coming up to bat. I don't know what that is supposed to prove or why this is a record that means anything.

you're allowed to post, but your comment was ignorant. the game was 12-1 in the 9th inning. in baseball that is a blowout, and in blowouts teams sometimes use position players to pitch instead of wasting an actual bullpen arm for no reason. like people said, this is normal throughout the league, there's no need to overthink it, argue the logic, it's really that simple. the fact that you're trying to argue and rationalize this shows that you don't know enough about baseball to comment on the situation, and that's entirely fine, you admitted that you don't really watch baseball. but it's pointless to argue a point when you don't know enough about the context of the sport. like i said, i don't really watch hockey, so when things are happening that don't make sense to me in the sport, i'll ask actual hockey fans "why." i'm not gonna create some pointless argument because i really don't know enough about the sport. this is what you're doing here.

I get why you and others are trying to shout me down on this, because deep down it makes you uncomfortable too. Why are these guys jacking their hit and home run numbers against no competition? What does this mean for end of season stats and the conversation people like us have about players?

Really, they should change the rule and allow a team to formally concede if this is what they're going to do. I guess everyone is ok with it because they want more "historic" and "record breaking" to boost viewership or something? That's all I can think of.

It’s no different than leaving a guy who’s having a great game or chasing numbers in the game in a blowout. This type of staff is pretty routine in most team sports and balances out over a season. Players do also get taken out of games, but in baseball you’re using most of those guys pretty regularly during the week. In the NBa there are some guys who are there just to be bench fodder.

Also, a couple of innings in a 162 game season with 9 innings each isn’t changing your stats much lol

[realball]

Mad Max v. Kershaw tonight, should be fun.

[DreamTeam09]

I just don't understand how ppl can stand so strong on their feelings or beliefs even when confronted with facts & real life experiences that are counterintuitive to their feelings... Actually maddening to me lol
I. what professional sports league is there a conceding rule? Why even advocate for one, & even if you were on the side that there should be one, you should be able to understand why on earth there isn't one in PROFESSIONAL sports

[DreamTeam09]

Mad Max v. Kershaw tonight, should be fun.

Is Kershaw still the Kershaw of old, or has he come back down to earth over the years?

[realball]

Mad Max v. Kershaw tonight, should be fun.

Is Kershaw still the Kershaw of old, or has he come back down to earth over the years?

He was injured last year, but he's been really good this year.