Positive QUAD Talk (Scottie/BI/RJ/IQ)

[tsherkin]

Couldn’t agree more. Being cautious makes sense because as you’ve said Scottie won’t continue to shoot the 3 this well, but I do see other improvements to his process that I’ve enjoyed beyond the 3. Also guys can improve, and if he sticks to the catch and shoot 3s like he has who knows what can happen. He won’t be the first player to improve their shooting later in their career. But yes it’s more about giving praise when things are going well, just as much as we critique when things are going back. It shows that there’s no hidden agenda. When all a poster ever does is pop their head in when things are bad to me that’s when the hater label is valid. No one is above critique, but praise is also deserved when they play well.

I got really comfortable being wrong pretty early, heh. I was all over RealGM when I first got here, writing articles and doing the radio show and stuff. And on occasion, I was flagrantly incorrect. So every now and again, I remind myself about my take on Kwame Brown when I'm feeling a little high and mighty

But yeah, fandom to me is about a little more than being critical. I want to enjoy the process of being a fan, so to me, little wins are valid at this stage of my approach to the sport. And I've been a Jays fan forever, so I'm very comfortable with not winning titles for decades and all that, especially with one or two in the bag ages before. I just want to look for the positives when I can. Sometimes, I'm even able to do that xD

[djsunyc]

do we have a nickname for them?

how about 3 six mafia?

3 because there's 3 of them and/or they are hitting their 3's

six because toronto

mafia because they are all clearly italian

[Clay Davis]

If IQ rounds back into form, we'll have a starting 5 with 4 above-average, players. One of them is a strong all-star (that is, strongly not a borderline all-star and not a superstar), and three are borderline all-stars. Very intriguing! Unfortunately, glaring roster flaws make me wonder whether we can get the most out of them.

Unfortunately I still that we have, in the best case, the rizz of a team whose best player would be the third best player on a championship team and three players who'd be the fourth best player.

Detroit Pistons early 2000s.

Yes, that's what I want to believe... but you could argue that that team had a number of players who'd be the best defenders on a championship team. So while their offensive rizz was good but not great, their defensive rizz was elite.

[everdiso]

I just love how distinct each guy's offensive game is. There's no stepping on each other's toes their skillsets all take advantage of different matchups and defenses.

[tsherkin]

I just love how distinct each guy's offensive game is. There's no stepping on each other's toes their skillsets all take advantage of different matchups and defenses.

Early on, it really is, isn't it? Scottie's bulling inside and attacking in transition, RJ is cutting all over and spotting up well, BI's doing his perimeter thing with the dribble... In a way, it's vaguely reminiscent of the early 2000s Bucks. Obviously not so much the same degree of shooting ability or what-not, but 3 guys doing their thing at around 20 ppg without hugely impacting the others' ability to roll.

[WuTang_CMB]

I just love how distinct each guy's offensive game is. There's no stepping on each other's toes their skillsets all take advantage of different matchups and defenses.

Good point. All very different.

[WiggOuts]

If he could bring that level of aggressiveness every game he's a perennial all star with DPOY potential

I don't think he's ever really looked DPOY-level, but he could be an All-D guy if he can keep locked in on that end. That would be super awesome.

Its a very optimistic outlook but he definitely has the tools. A lot of things would have to fall in place but I don't think its out of the question. If we end a season with the #1 ranked defence hed be the first guy they'd look at. At the end of the day, I didn't see DPOY potential in Even Mobley or JJJ either but look how that went. I'm not expecting it but more shocking things have happened

[tsherkin]

Its a very optimistic outlook but he definitely has the tools. A lot of things would have to fall in place but I don't think its out of the question. If we end a season with the #1 ranked defence hed be the first guy they'd look at. At the end of the day, I didn't see DPOY potential in Even Mobley or JJJ either but look how that went. I'm not expecting it but more shocking things have happened

We will not end the season with a #1-ranked defense, so that's not really a relevant consideration though, so...

[PushDaRock]

do we have a nickname for them?

how about 3 six mafia?

3 because there's 3 of them and/or they are hitting their 3's

six because toronto

mafia because they are all clearly italian

I have the perfect name. Let's call them The Big 3!!!

[niQ]

do we have a nickname for them?

how about 3 six mafia?

3 because there's 3 of them and/or they are hitting their 3's

six because toronto

mafia because they are all clearly italian

I have the perfect name. Let's call them The Big 3!!!

BRB.

[TheGeneral99]

The "B Legion"...Barnes, Barrett, Brandon...I tried, lol.

[Lord_Zedd]

The "B Legion"...Barnes, Barrett, Brandon...I tried, lol.

The Killer B's 2.0

[niQ]

The "B Legion"...Barnes, Barrett, Brandon...I tried, lol.

[WiggOuts]

Its a very optimistic outlook but he definitely has the tools. A lot of things would have to fall in place but I don't think its out of the question. If we end a season with the #1 ranked defence hed be the first guy they'd look at. At the end of the day, I didn't see DPOY potential in Even Mobley or JJJ either but look how that went. I'm not expecting it but more shocking things have happened

We will not end the season with a #1-ranked defense, so that's not really a relevant consideration though, so...

i made sure to say "a" season not "the" season lol

[dTox]

How about........"The B Sharps"

[tsherkin]

i made sure to say "a" season not "the" season lol

I struggle to envision a season in the next half-decade where we will be positioned as that sort of roster.

[WiggOuts]

i made sure to say "a" season not "the" season lol

I struggle to envision a season in the next half-decade where we will be positioned as that sort of roster.

Youre probably right but at the same time we have a lot of defense first players that are young. Within the next 5 years, if all things go as envisioned, Scottie, CMB, Jakobe, Shead, Mogbo should all be + defenders with some guys possibly being ++. I think its more a matter of having the right system in place. If Darko doesnt work out or runs his course and they bring in a defensive specialist type of coach that catapults the trajectory anything can happen, Darko can also become a much better coach as time goes on. Development has always been the path and you cant ignore that

I disagree in the sense that I think they absolutely envision this team with a big defensive identity, you can see it based on the players theyve drafted. This organization drafting players like Gradey is such an uncommon thing.

[tsherkin]

Youre probably right but at the same time we have a lot of defense first players that are young. Within the next 5 years, if all things go as envisioned, Scottie, CMB, Jakobe, Shead, Mogbo should all be + defenders with some guys possibly being ++. I think its more a matter of having the right system in place. If Darko doesnt work out or runs his course and they bring in a defensive specialist type of coach that catapults the trajectory anything can happen, Darko can also become a much better coach as time goes on. Development has always been the path and you cant ignore that

Sure, we can definitely be a BETTER defense. But what you're talking about isn't merely that.

I disagree in the sense that I think they absolutely envision this team with a big defensive identity, you can see it based on the players theyve drafted. This organization drafting players like Gradey is such an uncommon thing.

This isn't salient. The issue is that it's very difficult to be the first overall defense in the league, and we sure as hell aren't going to do it with RJ, Gradey and BI on the roster.

[manjusaka]

BI and RJ are not first class defenders, but they can be average. If we got good scoring efficiency, we just need a better poa defence from pg position. Peoltl is a good rim protector, SB is really good, BI and RJ has length to cover grounds.

[LoveMyRaps]

so we got one of the best mid range shooters in BI and one of the best transition players in RJ



This is ELITE stuff from RJ. Remarkable!