Fischer/Stein: Raps trying to see what RJ/IQ/Poeltl gets // Still trying for Anthony Davis

[WuTang_CMB]

So Masai’s grand plan was to trade OG for a stopgap and then sign that “stop gap” for 5 years?

If this is the case he deserved to be fired, regardless of his salary.

They waited too long with OG.

The Siakam deal was a stop gap too. The return was significantly different then what they got the day of the trade. They pretty much took it and turned it into BI and more.

They are trying to do the same with IQ/RJ and upgrade. So far, no luck

If their plan was to do that with IQ and Barrett that is just a terrible plan.

It’s far easier to trade 1sts and expiring salary (ie the returns in the Siakam trade) than it is to trade Barrett (who was considered a bad contract at the time) and IQ (who we overpaid for 5 years). Signing a guy to a long term questionable contract (IQ) to try and flip him is one of the worst team building strategies I’ve ever heard of.

That was their plan lol. If IQ popped, they keep him. If not, they look to move to upgrade. They clearly didn't want to move OG to Memphis for 3 firsts. I guess they wanted players in return that they could trade later on. That's always been Masai's thought process rightly or wrongly.

[WaltFrazier]

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Putting Temple on the injury report is quite…. sus.

Hmmmmmmmm

Maybe he hurt himself guarding Kyle the other night.

What would ever be the point of reading Temple? Matching salaries something?

[Gavin_TDThree]

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Putting Temple on the injury report is quite…. sus.

Hmmmmmmmm

Maybe he hurt himself guarding Kyle the other night.

What would ever be the point of reading Temple? Matching salaries something?

without actively checking it, could it be because there's 2 players coming back and we need the roster spot? Temple would be a huge loss for the team culture

[Raps in 4]

Really! Still AD? Why??

Money.

So basically the will have traded OG for cap space.

They are.desperate if they are offering RJ now.

How is that for cap space? AD is on the books for another year, and has a PO for the year after

There no chance AD doesn't opt into the final year. He's going to make $63M sitting on the bench.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Isn't Mark Cuban back influencing the Mavs front office? I expect Stein will be carrying their water again. Lots of 'if the Raptors give up unprotected first, AD is there'-type stuff.

[Raptors Realtor]

Gotta assume this is just posturing... AD makes absolutely no sense for this squad due to his contract, age and constant injury issues.

[RaptorPride]

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So this is our plan basically?

[YogurtProducer]

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So this is our plan basically?

Yuck.

Morant/Shead
Walter/Martin
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/CMB
Davis/Mamu

No thank you. Absolutely no ability to handle any sort of injuries.

[Jerry Lucas]

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[ash_k]

Nah, I dont believe those rumors about AD. I trust the Morant's ones much more

[PhilBlackson]

Bobby should be fired if he includes RJ and/or multiple picks.

I would legit rather not do the deal at all if it’s gonna cost either (or even sadder both) to get AD, that’s just a dumb risk.

[RaptorPride]

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So now he's Wolverine? WTF

[Gavin_TDThree]

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I can't decide if I hate this or if I want to see it just for the pure chaos of it all

[Gavin_TDThree]

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So now he's Wolverine? WTF

[RaptorPride]

Bobby should be fired if he includes RJ and/or multiple picks.

I really do think they would trade RJ. If he was playing bad everyone on this board would want him gone. But he's like one of the only guys playing better than expectations. If Dick and Oachi were playing well we also would not want to trade them. I think the plan all along was to have IQ and RJ play well so we can trade them with our young assets to get an all star.

[Mr. Perfect]

Nah, I dont believe those rumors about AD. I trust the Morant's ones much more

There are no rumours linking Morant to Toronto, that's just speculation and discussion over here.

There are multiple Shams and Stein reports linking AD to Toronto. This is the only rumour that has real legs.

I think it's gonna go down, Rich Paul has relations with our front office. Just comes down to the price.

[Duffman100]

What would the reaction be if added both Morant and AD? lol

[causal_fan]

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So this is our plan basically?

I can't decide if I hate this or if I want to see it just for the pure chaos of it all

YES! For the chaos!

[WWSRD]

This team hasn’t been fully healthy all season but no one has structural issues. We don’t have years of data with the current group to even make informed decisions. The idea that they’re going to trade any big pieces before at least seeing this season play out is ridiculous. It’s not happening regardless of how much some may want it to happen.

Jake Fischer is selling clicks per usual.

You need years of data? C'mon.

They don't want to or know they won't be able to extend RJ.
They want out of the IQ contract badly.
Poetl's got chronic back issues that will plague his contract, so yeah, they want out of that too.

This is very obvious.

Let’s be real. You have no idea what they want or don’t want, especially as it pertains to RJ. And maybe we don’t need years of data but at least one year of data seems reasonable, especially given that so far they’ve shown capability of a four seed.

Also, Poeltl doesn’t have chronic back issues. There’s no structural damage. So far it’s a muscle issue that didn’t get rehabbed properly. Chronic means it’s recurring. There have been no other years in his career where he missed extended time with back problems. Basically, your entire post is incorrect or misleading.

You're basically saying: ...I WANT MORE TIME WITH THIS ROSTER...... Semantics over Poetl injury..........ergo you're a liar.

RJ has been ALL OVER the press, (many credible sources) as being shopped for months. That's a FACT. That's not multiple sports reporters writing fiction. They talk to people in front offices and report what people say.
Now maybe, his play this year changed their approach there, but I don't think so given, guess what? Fresh rumours of him being shopped today!


Okay...Poetl back isn't chronic. He did come into the season with it? That's a FACT. That was 2 months ago? He played for a while....hurt it...played again...hurt it....so not chronic but recurring?
So a recurring back injury on a player that relies completely on his physicality. That's a problem.

You will also notice, when the injury flared up again, rumours of Poetl being shopped (which weren't happening before) started popping up. Namely today again.

You need to differentiate between what YOU want and what information is being presented to you.

Nothing I'm saying is misleading. You just don't like it.

[Spida888]

Don't want to trade RJ or multiple picks for AD. Hopefully this is just to drive up the price for ATL.
IQ + Poeltl + Gradey + 2027 well protected FRP is the most I would offer, but even then let's see what other players are available.