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2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

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Post#801 » by Madhouse » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:15 pm

Asif16 wrote:Could totally see Nurse and Masai being interested in bringing back Delon Wright in Free Agency. Defense first Guard with good playmaking. Has the length and athleticism to guard multiple positions. Had a good showing with the Hawks

Just seems like the Ideal raptor type of player


He would be a good addition.
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Post#802 » by Madhouse » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:48 pm

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Post#804 » by alpngso » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:29 pm

It’d be so nice to have Delon on this team. Has handles and plays defense.

Wonder if Raps can get Brandon Clarke. He’s done so well for the Grizz in playoffs. Maybe even better than DPOY candidate JJJ
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Post#805 » by AbC? » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:15 pm

Delon would be a solid addition but the Raptors likely aren't interested allotting him minutes when they could develop Banton in a similar role next season

Random tidbit from yesterday's Raptors Show, Blake Murphy said there was a fan in his DMs early in the season messaging him daily that the Raptors should trade Siakam for Mo Bamba lmao. Could it be a certain realGM poster?

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Post#806 » by KrazyP » Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:24 pm

Madhouse wrote:
agkagk wrote:

hes injured and he still sets the tone.


theres little to zero chance of us improving by trading fred and masai isnt going backwards.


Fred's our general, get used to it.

Precious, trent, barnes. Three players who have improved night and day while playing under fred's influence.

Hes better at his age then lowry was.

why do i read this thread lol



the future starting lineup is Precious, Trent, Barnes, Siakam and OG.

Also saying he is better than Lowry at 28 is extremely laughable.

But even more laughable that you think a talent like Barnes needs someone like FVV to improve. If anything it was the acquisition of Young that let Barnes and Achiuwa grow.


Lowry at 28? That was the year he went into the playoffs hurt, shot 30% and got burned by John Wall's speed on defense. The Raps ended up getting swept. I think the knee jerk fans on this forum wanted him traded at the time.
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Post#807 » by CoinTossRoss31 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:27 am

If Atlanta decides to blow it up and get a complete new cast around Trae, I'd be very interested in Okongwu.

Think a Trent for Okongwu swap could be a possibility? Who would add
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Post#808 » by mtcan » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:11 am

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:If Atlanta decides to blow it up and get a complete new cast around Trae, I'd be very interested in Okongwu.

Think a Trent for Okongwu swap could be a possibility? Who would add

That worsens our shooting while adding yet another 6'8 guy who can't really shoot. There's a lot of redundancy ...
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Post#809 » by Madhouse » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:16 am

mtcan wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:If Atlanta decides to blow it up and get a complete new cast around Trae, I'd be very interested in Okongwu.

Think a Trent for Okongwu swap could be a possibility? Who would add

That worsens our shooting while adding yet another 6'8 guy who can't really shoot. There's a lot of redundancy ...


He'd be great to replace Birch but he can't be had for cheap.
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Post#810 » by Masai4PM » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:49 am

Tari Eason would be a great fit on this team, would be targeting him at the draft and Atl has 13 and 16 picks in the draft, they might be open to a trade..

FVV and 33 for 16 and Okongwu would be interesting if Eason is on the board.
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Post#811 » by Asif16 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:38 am

I know it's easy to just include Fred in every trade package moving forward but the Man is considered a Leader in Masai and Bobby's eyes. And not to mention, they know he's been injured since the All-Star break

I just dont think the front office even entertaining that thought unless something drastic happens.

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Post#812 » by Rapsfan07 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:01 am

Asif16 wrote:I know it's easy to just include Fred in every trade package moving forward but the Man is considered a Leader in Masai and Bobby's eyes. And not to mention, they know he's been injured since the All-Star break

I just dont think the front office even entertaining that thought unless something drastic happens.

Hate to burst ya'll bubble


Unfortunately, I agree with you. But that's the problem. We shouldn't just be holding onto guys we love them.
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Post#813 » by Morris_Shatford » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:25 pm

Asif16 wrote:I know it's easy to just include Fred in every trade package moving forward but the Man is considered a Leader in Masai and Bobby's eyes. And not to mention, they know he's been injured since the All-Star break


This is the revolving door of fandom.
A few months ago when OG was hurt he was the guy being offered around the trade board for mid-lotto picks because he was always injured and he had plateaued as a player @ 24, today its FVV.

The likelihood that Masai and Co do anything drastic (unless its a no brainer) after what I think almost all of us can agree is an over-achievement this season is minimal.

These guys were arguably amongst the best teams in the NBA from January onward, I don't see them not getting the opportunity to run it back and see what it looks like next year.
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Post#814 » by Zeno » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:08 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
Asif16 wrote:I know it's easy to just include Fred in every trade package moving forward but the Man is considered a Leader in Masai and Bobby's eyes. And not to mention, they know he's been injured since the All-Star break


This is the revolving door of fandom.
A few months ago when OG was hurt he was the guy being offered around the trade board for mid-lotto picks because he was always injured and he had plateaued as a player @ 24, today its FVV.

The likelihood that Masai and Co do anything drastic (unless its a no brainer) after what I think almost all of us can agree is an over-achievement this season is minimal.

These guys were arguably amongst the best teams in the NBA from January onward, I don't see them not getting the opportunity to run it back and see what it looks like next year.

I agree with you on basically everything but I think contract could come into play. Both Gary and Fred have player options after next season. Fred can be extended, Gary can't be. I think they look to extend Fred. People may go crazy here...If they can't get a Fred extension done, I think they might look to move one of Gary or Fred. I don't think they'd want to go into an offseason with no control over 2 starters long-term.
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Post#815 » by Morris_Shatford » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:16 pm

Zeno wrote:
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Asif16 wrote:I know it's easy to just include Fred in every trade package moving forward but the Man is considered a Leader in Masai and Bobby's eyes. And not to mention, they know he's been injured since the All-Star break


This is the revolving door of fandom.
A few months ago when OG was hurt he was the guy being offered around the trade board for mid-lotto picks because he was always injured and he had plateaued as a player @ 24, today its FVV.

The likelihood that Masai and Co do anything drastic (unless its a no brainer) after what I think almost all of us can agree is an over-achievement this season is minimal.

These guys were arguably amongst the best teams in the NBA from January onward, I don't see them not getting the opportunity to run it back and see what it looks like next year.

I agree with you on basically everything but I think contract could come into play. Both Gary and Fred have player options after next season. Fred can be extended, Gary can't be. I think they look to extend Fred. People may go crazy here...If they can't get a Fred extension done, I think they might look to move one of Gary or Fred. I don't think they'd want to go into an offseason with no control over 2 starters long-term.


Agreed, contract certainly comes into play.
If it looks like you will be unable to retain FVV and/or GTJ then I fully agree you need to explore your options to get some value for either or both guys.

While it may be wildly optimistic, I don't think retain FVV is going to be an issue if Masai and Co want to retain him.
GTJ on the other hand, I have no idea if he wants to stay, wants to go elsewhere, etc. He doesn't have the history here.
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Post#816 » by Zeno » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:24 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
Zeno wrote:
Morris_Shatford wrote:
This is the revolving door of fandom.
A few months ago when OG was hurt he was the guy being offered around the trade board for mid-lotto picks because he was always injured and he had plateaued as a player @ 24, today its FVV.

The likelihood that Masai and Co do anything drastic (unless its a no brainer) after what I think almost all of us can agree is an over-achievement this season is minimal.

These guys were arguably amongst the best teams in the NBA from January onward, I don't see them not getting the opportunity to run it back and see what it looks like next year.

I agree with you on basically everything but I think contract could come into play. Both Gary and Fred have player options after next season. Fred can be extended, Gary can't be. I think they look to extend Fred. People may go crazy here...If they can't get a Fred extension done, I think they might look to move one of Gary or Fred. I don't think they'd want to go into an offseason with no control over 2 starters long-term.


Agreed, contract certainly comes into play.
If it looks like you will be unable to retain FVV and/or GTJ then I fully agree you need to explore your options to get some value for either or both guys.

While it may be wildly optimistic, I don't think retain FVV is going to be an issue if Masai and Co want to retain him.
GTJ on the other hand, I have no idea if he wants to stay, wants to go elsewhere, etc. He doesn't have the history here.


Yeah, who knows with Gary. Hopefully, Masai has a feel for it. But even if both guys give you a wonderfully positive feeling they want to return, having two starters as UFAs negotiating against you is not a great place to be.
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Post#817 » by GooniesNeverDie » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:27 pm

If I didn't think Rudy was going to age poorly, a lineup of Scottie, Siakam, OG, Precious, Gobert would be suffocating.

I know spacing could be an issue but I do think Scottie will be a much better shooter next year, OG is good, you can't really leave pascal open off ball and Precious has shown he could potentially be a high 30s shooter as well (on more volume).

Also I think we'd be able to use Gobert much more effectively on offense.

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Post#818 » by tecumseh18 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:48 pm

mtcan wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:If Atlanta decides to blow it up and get a complete new cast around Trae, I'd be very interested in Okongwu.

Think a Trent for Okongwu swap could be a possibility? Who would add

That worsens our shooting while adding yet another 6'8 guy who can't really shoot. There's a lot of redundancy ...


I remember the same sort of trade ideas around Bam in his first two seasons. But Hawks want out of the Capela deal, and Okongwu is his rightful heir at C. They're not trading him.

Hawks would undoubtedly give us something to take Capela off their hands. But what would Raps want?
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Post#819 » by mtcan » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:51 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
mtcan wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:If Atlanta decides to blow it up and get a complete new cast around Trae, I'd be very interested in Okongwu.

Think a Trent for Okongwu swap could be a possibility? Who would add

That worsens our shooting while adding yet another 6'8 guy who can't really shoot. There's a lot of redundancy ...


I remember the same sort of trade ideas around Bam in his first two seasons. But Hawks want out of the Capela deal, and Okongwu is his rightful heir at C. They're not trading him.

Hawks would undoubtedly give us something to take Capela off their hands. But what would Raps want?

for Trent? I would want Huerter along with Capela.

Huerter off the bench is a great piece.
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Post#820 » by Madhouse » Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:16 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
mtcan wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:If Atlanta decides to blow it up and get a complete new cast around Trae, I'd be very interested in Okongwu.

Think a Trent for Okongwu swap could be a possibility? Who would add

That worsens our shooting while adding yet another 6'8 guy who can't really shoot. There's a lot of redundancy ...


I remember the same sort of trade ideas around Bam in his first two seasons. But Hawks want out of the Capela deal, and Okongwu is his rightful heir at C. They're not trading him.

Hawks would undoubtedly give us something to take Capela off their hands. But what would Raps want?


6-8 and 6-9 Cs are the future of the league, no doubt Onyeka is their future.

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