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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#821 » by HumbleRen » Mon Nov 8, 2021 8:49 pm

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With defense.

I'll still rather have Darius Garland over any backcourt player on our team.


especially with his potential.


Barnes and Garland would be an elite pairing. Mobley got a good backcourt to feed him easy buckets in Rubio and Garland.
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Post#823 » by BBS22 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 10:28 pm

I'm seeing a lot of discourse about Barnes lack of touches and set plays.

There's multiple ways to develop a player. Barnes is a rookie that has a very unique playstyle to this team. Our team is learning to integrate him to the system while making up for their own offensive limitations. Additionally, Barnes is not a true scorer just yet.

None of this should be discouraging. Be encouraged that despite of everything, Barnes is still killing it. Garbage buckets, good looks, a 3 every now and then. But more importantly he buys into this defense and is learning very, very, very fast. Compare his defense to Tatum in the preseason, versus regular season matchup 1 to tomorrow. We've never seen a rookie in a Raptors uniform do what he's doing on defense while still being effective on offense.

The touches will come in time. We lost Lowry and had to completely readjust the offensive hierarchy with Pascal gone (now returning).

So do we need to run plays for Barnes right now to develop him? No, if the talent is there you won't need a single play run for you.

But don't take it from me, take it from the best coach in the NBA regarding his young finals MVP:

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Post#824 » by HumbleRen » Mon Nov 8, 2021 10:52 pm

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Scottie needs to be more aggressive with his touches.
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Post#825 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Nov 8, 2021 11:21 pm




Read caption. Just such a unique player. Pure unselfishness.
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Post#826 » by Madhouse » Mon Nov 8, 2021 11:41 pm

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Scottie needs to be more aggressive with his touches.


peep the time of poss. Fred is a ball hog.
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Post#827 » by pingpongrac » Tue Nov 9, 2021 12:13 am

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Scottie needs to be more aggressive with his touches.


peep the time of poss. Fred is a ball hog.
Peep the rest of the league and also consider our pace (and how everyone complains FVV always takes 8 seconds to walk the ball up the floor). PGs tend to have a very high time of possession. CP3, Anthony, SGA, Brogdon, Murray, Westbrook, Dinwiddie, Lillard, Schroder and Rubio are in the 6-7.5 second range. Some of those players are ball hogs, but most are above average playmakers.

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Post#828 » by WeTheNorth123 » Tue Nov 9, 2021 12:30 am

Kd on Scottie Barnes

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Post#829 » by tdotrep2 » Tue Nov 9, 2021 12:36 am

WeTheNorth123 wrote:Kd on Scottie Barnes


KD would literally be the perfect raptor... the fit is perfect form the city fans and the culture here he'd feel at home no doubt. its a shame man cuz i know he'd of loved it here. :banghead:
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Post#830 » by WeTheNorth123 » Tue Nov 9, 2021 1:03 am

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WeTheNorth123 wrote:Kd on Scottie Barnes


KD would literally be the perfect raptor... the fit is perfect form the city fans and the culture here he'd feel at home no doubt. its a shame man cuz i know he'd of loved it here. :banghead:


His favorite team growing up was the raptors too! :banghead:
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Post#831 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:44 am

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nobody will complain if he consistently gets 12-15 shots per game and actually gets set up by team mates.
He's averaging 14 FGA.

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and people are complaining :lol:


And this is again why people need to watch games rather than rely on stats. A lot of Barnes' points have come off missed putbacks and him grabbing the ball and running down the court.

Barnes right now gets ignored more than anyone else on the team on offense. He will going stretches of the game where the only time he touches the ball is to swing it to someone and never see it again. It's not about the amount of shots but rather the quality of touches he's getting. He's basically getting all his points on his own with no help from his teammates.
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Post#832 » by HangTime » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:56 am

Do you think he's hesitant because of the vets.
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Post#833 » by HumbleRen » Tue Nov 9, 2021 4:00 am

HangTime wrote:Do you think he's hesitant because of the vets.

It's in his nature to defer.
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Post#834 » by durka » Tue Nov 9, 2021 4:07 am

Tha Cynic wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
GooniesNeverDie wrote:He's averaging 14 FGA.

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and people are complaining :lol:


And this is again why people need to watch games rather than rely on stats. A lot of Barnes' points have come off missed putbacks and him grabbing the ball and running down the court.

Barnes right now gets ignored more than anyone else on the team on offense. He will going stretches of the game where the only time he touches the ball is to swing it to someone and never see it again. It's not about the amount of shots but rather the quality of touches he's getting. He's basically getting all his points on his own with no help from his teammates.

At a certain point its on him to not swing the ball and be assertive, though. There were numerous times last game where he had a mismatch and instead of exploiting it he passed the ball off.
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Post#835 » by gbball » Tue Nov 9, 2021 4:58 am

tdotrep2 wrote:
WeTheNorth123 wrote:Kd on Scottie Barnes


KD would literally be the perfect raptor... the fit is perfect form the city fans and the culture here he'd feel at home no doubt. its a shame man cuz i know he'd of loved it here. :banghead:


Raptors were his favorite team growing up and he always puts on a show when he plays here.

I think when he chose to go to GS, he was considering Toronto too. Before he announced his decision, his mom sent out at tweet saying she did't care where he played in the USA or something to that effect. I don't think she wanted him coming to Canada. Had he, the narrative on him would have been so different. He would have been viewed like Kawhi was here.
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Post#836 » by gha4life » Tue Nov 9, 2021 1:57 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
HangTime wrote:Do you think he's hesitant because of the vets.

It's in his nature to defer.
I think later in the season he would but it's still early in the season, it's best we don't force anything, giannis started only 23 games and had 9 attempts his rookie year , eventually he would

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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#837 » by Young_Buc » Tue Nov 9, 2021 2:33 pm

In the alternate universe where KD chooses Raptors over GS... how many titles do we win? Is Derozan still traded for Kawhi or nah?
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#838 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:14 pm

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Post#839 » by nikster » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:30 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
GooniesNeverDie wrote:He's averaging 14 FGA.

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and people are complaining :lol:


And this is again why people need to watch games rather than rely on stats. A lot of Barnes' points have come off missed putbacks and him grabbing the ball and running down the court.

Barnes right now gets ignored more than anyone else on the team on offense. He will going stretches of the game where the only time he touches the ball is to swing it to someone and never see it again. It's not about the amount of shots but rather the quality of touches he's getting. He's basically getting all his points on his own with no help from his teammates.

And if you watched the game you would know Barnes has the ball in his hands more than anybody but Fred. Barnes has a problem with lack of Aggression and he still gets 14 shots per game. And while he has been one of our best scorers I think Fred, OG, GTJ and now Pascal are all better at creating their own shot
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Post#840 » by nikster » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:32 pm

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