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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#821 » by Mak » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:25 pm

TGM wrote:Love what's happening, but don't want to get my hopes up. This Raptors management has always been notorious for a lot of smoke but nothing ends up happening.



I would bet since 2017 Raptors are in the top 5 in terms of making meaningful player trades. This fan base is hilarious, The Raptors management is notorious for making one of the best ever trades to win a title. But here its the opposite world.
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Post#822 » by M3tro » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:25 pm

Getting Dyson Daniels and the Lakers pick swap is a coup
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#823 » by Reeko » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:26 pm

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If he actually said that then why hasn't there been any news about it? If that's what he said then this would've blown up and gotten a ton of media attention.

OG has been around this league long enough to know that there are cameras everywhere. I don't think he's dumb enough to say something like that. LOL.

Lol this OG, he’s not some superstar. Most people in the media don’t even bother to learn how to pronounce his last name correctly lmao. This kind of stuff blows up when it’s a top 10 player doing it. If it’s Durant, Bron, Steph, Giannis etc then yeah they make a big deal out of it. He’s the 4th option on a sub .500 team, nobody cares that he might have done this except us.

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Oh he’s #1 over Kyle Kuzma, my bad. OG top 10 player confirmed.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#824 » by sidsid » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:26 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:If a deal goes down, I'm betting it's to NO's for Dyson and picks. The Raps were linked to Dyson at the draft and NO's has some enticing picks. This deal would give them a good young player who could step in right away, plus future picks down the line.

My preference is still to keep OG though.


Again, if Gobert trade is there... Take it regardless.

Giannis has a player option in 2025. The Lakers pick this year. NO's core is resting on some of the worst knees in the league.

A version of 5 picks/swaps with no protections with a combo of those assets... I'll take those odds. But I'd want that overwhelming value.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#825 » by Ado05 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:26 pm

New Orleans and Memphis bidding war is perfect. Hope its true.
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Post#826 » by SurgeIblocka » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:26 pm

I want Ingram
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Post#827 » by navyblue » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:27 pm

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TGM wrote:Love what's happening, but don't want to get my hopes up. This Raptors management has always been notorious for a lot of smoke but nothing ends up happening.



I would bet since 2017 Raptors are in the top 5 in terms of making meaningful player trades. This fan base is hilarious, The Raptors management is notorious for making one of the best ever trades to win a title. But here its the opposite world.

People aggregate the amount of moves 29 other teams make and compare that to ours.
But in reality we are on par with moves most teams make.
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Post#828 » by ConSarnit » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:27 pm

SurgeIblocka wrote:What if its a bigger trade where both Fred and OG head to NO. I want Ingram , Trey and Daniels


Why don't we just ask for Zion? :crazy:

NO isn't trading Ingram, they are looking to add to their core of Ingram/Zion.
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Post#829 » by Fairview4Life » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:27 pm

Reeko wrote:Was his name all over the place when this happened?


It does not matter in the slightest. The twitter user you have chosen to believe didn't post it a month ago. He posted it this week. Because OG's name is in the streets. Do you think none of the dozens of NBA reporters who are constantly scrounging for details at this time of year wouldn't have jumped on that to spread it to increase their own clout if you could actually read his lips and know what he was saying? Even just Indiana beat writers would follow up on it, and he isn't really linked to Indiana at all outside of that one tweet.
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Post#830 » by Fairview4Life » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:28 pm

Reeko wrote:Oh he’s #1 over Kyle Kuzma, my bad. OG top 10 player confirmed.


He's a top 1 player being talked about at the 2023 NBA trade deadline, was the point.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#831 » by Highflyerwire » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:30 pm

ConSarnit wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:What if its a bigger trade where both Fred and OG head to NO. I want Ingram , Trey and Daniels


Why don't we just ask for Zion? :crazy:

NO isn't trading Ingram, they are looking to add to their core of Ingram/Zion.


ppfffff why stop there

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Post#832 » by Reeko » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:32 pm

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Reeko wrote:Was his name all over the place when this happened?


It does not matter in the slightest. The twitter user you have chosen to believe didn't post it a month ago. He posted it this week. Because OG's name is in the streets. Do you think none of the dozens of NBA reporters who are constantly scrounging for details at this time of year wouldn't have jumped on that to spread it to increase their own clout if you could actually read his lips and know what he was saying? Even just Indiana beat writers would follow up on it, and he isn't really linked to Indiana at all outside of that one tweet.

Him being linked to Indiana is irrelevant. He probably likes his potential fit there for one, and two he went to school there. Those are two very good reasons why he would want to head back there. This is a comment to another player, it’s not that deep.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#833 » by Reeko » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:38 pm

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Reeko wrote:Oh he’s #1 over Kyle Kuzma, my bad. OG top 10 player confirmed.


He's a top 1 player being talked about at the 2023 NBA trade deadline, was the point.

In a dry market.
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Post#834 » by Reeko » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:38 pm

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Reeko wrote:Oh he’s #1 over Kyle Kuzma, my bad. OG top 10 player confirmed.


He's a top 1 player being talked about at the 2023 NBA trade deadline, was the point.

In a dry market.
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Post#835 » by StopitLeo » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:40 pm

SurgeIblocka wrote:What if its a bigger trade where both Fred and OG head to NO. I want Ingram , Trey and Daniels


You're being greedy. Fred + OG probably wouldn't get it done value wise. That being said, I'd trade both guys and a pick for Ingram. This is a pipe dream though.
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Post#836 » by Yeezus_ » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:42 pm

SurgeIblocka wrote:I want Ingram

They aren't trading Ingram lol. Just because we're linked to the Pels, be realistic.
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Post#837 » by Pointgod » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:46 pm

TGM wrote:Love what's happening, but don't want to get my hopes up. This Raptors management has always been notorious for a lot of smoke but nothing ends up happening.

I think no doubt the NO package is more enticing than Memphis. The way I see it is the young players on NO have shown more upside and fit the type of basketball we are looking to play. The guys are Memphis are young and have had a chance to prove themselves on many occasions but have not stepped up. So trading with Memphis could blow up hard if guys like Zaire don't pan out. Versus Daniels and Murphy are both excellent fits. Ideally if OG can net Daniels, Murphy, Graham and a first that is a legit haul. If that were to happen I would not hesitate to flip Fred or Trent as well. Cause you have your future PG, SG in those two and actually add back some PG depth with Graham. Graham is a bit undersized, but not completely useless. However, if we can resign Fred to a reasonable contract I'm also down for a starting 5 of Fred, Daniels, Barnes, Pascal and Precious and with Murphy as our 6th man.

Two deals that will make our deadline:

OG and Birch for Graham, Daniels, Murphy, Hayes and future 1st.

Trent and Boucher for Reddish, Fournier, Hartenstein and a future first and future 2nd.

Flip Reddish to another team for 1 or 2 2nd round picks.

NEw line-up

Fred - Graham - Banton
Daniels - Murphy - Fournier
Barnes - Young - Harper
Siakam - Hartenstein
Precious - Hayes - Koloko

Daniels is a great defender and between him and Fred they can interchange running the point. They could also let Scottie or Pascal take over ball duties. Should we lose Fred in the summer, Daniels moves to the 1 spot and Murphy starts and we get Fournier to be our off the bench scorer, which he is still more than capable of. Fournier and Graham

Graham, Murphy, Fournier add back a ton of quality 3PT shooting for us. Fournier's contract sucks, but we are capped out so we rebalance some depth. Murphy can also play the 3 and some small ball 4 when needed.

Hartenstein gives us a reliable rebounder and defender who can step in when needed to occasional start.

I actually think this team ends up being better than our current team cause of the chemistry and balance. If we really think C is still an issue we could always see through with a Jakob deal to further shore up the 5 spot.

This would be a retool and not a rebuild.


I like your enthusiasm but not way you’re getting all of that for OG and Trent. Daniels himself was a lottery pick this year and he’s shown that he can be a starter in his rookie season. If I’m the Raps I’m pushing hard for Daniels, Trey Murphy and two protected firsts (Bucks and Pelicans picks). If they insist on keeping Daniels then we should push for Murphy, Nanji Marshall, the 24/25 Lakers pick and New Orleans or Lakers pick this year.

I want to keep Trent and would rather move Van Vleet, but I think the Knicks would probably say salary plus first for Trent. They have no need for Boucher and Hartenstein is a better fit if they could use him properly. I can’t see Cam as a throw in when they could probably get two Seconds or similar like the Wizards got for Hachimura. I like the approach of retooling with picks and young players instead of a full rebuild. Especially considering that we’ll have a lottery pick this year.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#838 » by Los_29 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:46 pm

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Reeko wrote: Lol this OG, he’s not some superstar. Most people in the media don’t even bother to learn how to pronounce his last name correctly lmao. This kind of stuff blows up when it’s a top 10 player doing it. If it’s Durant, Bron, Steph, Giannis etc then yeah they make a big deal out of it. He’s the 4th option on a sub .500 team, nobody cares that he might have done this except us.


Yes, it's OG, the player being talked about as the biggest trade option for multiple teams with lots of US media attention over the past couple weeks. It's so strange that one person online "deciphered" that post game exchange a month after it happened but it hasn't been picked up anywhere else when OG's name has been all over the place as a trade target.

Was his name all over the place when this happened? Think what you want it doesn’t matter to me. The reality is that he wants out and to act like it’s the peak of ridiculousness to think that he said this to Hali is, in my opinion, a defense mechanism.

Lol ok guys keep thinking he didn’t express himself to Hali post game a month ago, when he’s been wanting out for like the last 6 months. We’re not trading him because he wants out, it’s because it’s for the good of the franchise ( green font).


Thinking he told Haliburton "trade for me" in front of hundreds of cameras at center court is insane to me. OG has been in the league for 6 years now, played college ball at a reputable school. He's not new to this stuff.

The bottom line is, this would be blowing up if he actually said "trade for me." This also happened a month ago and this is the first we've heard of it which says a lot.
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Post#839 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:49 pm

SurgeIblocka wrote:What if its a bigger trade where both Fred and OG head to NO. I want Ingram , Trey and Daniels


Let's slow down here loll. They're not trading Ingram and Trey lol.
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Post#840 » by Duffman100 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:51 pm

M3tro wrote:Getting Dyson Daniels and the Lakers pick swap is a coup


This would be ideal. Unlikely, but so ideal.

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