Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

bballsparkin · Post #821 » by **bballsparkin** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:27 pm

BHF wrote:Bam is a lot better than Siakam, I would wanna play with Bam over Siakam as well.

He's locked in til 2025/26 at a contract FVV wants to equal or exceed. That' why Miami would expect a huge haul. Siakam is at least attainable.

Zeno · Post #822 » by **Zeno** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:27 pm

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Has there been a single rumour of a team trying to trade up for Brandon Miller? Charlotte is taking Scoot.

TorontoBarneys · Post #823 » by **TorontoBarneys** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:36 pm

If Siakam to Portland falls through then Masai should immediately be selling Siakam to Houston to entice Harden and nab #4 and one more significant young piece. #4 is lower in value than #3 so it calls for asking for more beside it.

Draft Amen and we will still have a seriously solid young pair in Amen/Barnes.

Bruin · Post #824 » by **Bruin** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:50 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:If Siakam to Portland falls through then Masai should immediately be selling Siakam to Houston to entice Harden and nab #4 and one more significant young piece. #4 is lower in value than #3 so it calls for asking for more beside it.

Draft Amen and we will still have a seriously solid young pair in Amen/Barnes.

Not sure what Houston could tag on to make it enticing enough. Highly doubt they include Sengun or Green

I like Eason but the fit is weird if we’d have Amen, Scottie, and OG already. I’d still do it for 4 and Eason. Worse case is we flip Eason later on for a better fit

bballsparkin · Post #825 » by **bballsparkin** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:57 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:If Siakam to Portland falls through then Masai should immediately be selling Siakam to Houston to entice Harden and nab #4 and one more significant young piece. #4 is lower in value than #3 so it calls for asking for more beside it.

Draft Amen and we will still have a seriously solid young pair in Amen/Barnes.

I'd add Pacers and OKC to that list. They both have nice assets. Time to move on and get younger if the right trade is there.

Bruin · Post #826 » by **Bruin** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:00 pm

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Sandman88 · Post #827 » by **Sandman88** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:08 pm

Bam is not better than pascal. Blazers cappin

TorontoBarneys · Post #828 » by **TorontoBarneys** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:30 pm

Sandman88 wrote:Bam is not better than pascal. Blazers cappin

He's not but he's very close to Siakam in impact these days, is younger, and is not an expiring and on quite a friendly deal, so he's definitely more valuable on the trade market than Siakam right now.

However, none of that matters because Miami will not want to deal him for picks. It makes no sense when they just made the Finals. They're gonna be looking to boost their team by any means necessary.

mihaic · Post #829 » by **mihaic** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:58 am

TorontoBarneys wrote:
Sandman88 wrote:Bam is not better than pascal. Blazers cappin

He's not but he's very close to Siakam in impact these days, is younger, and is not an expiring and on quite a friendly deal, so he's definitely more valuable on the trade market than Siakam right now.

However, none of that matters because Miami will not want to deal him for picks. It makes no sense when they just made the Finals. They're gonna be looking to boost their team by any means necessary.

Jimmy requests a trade next day if they drop Bam for picks. Unless they know that tehy use the picks to get a superstar.

mtcan · Post #830 » by **mtcan** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:03 am

Bam basically anchors the Heat defence.

There is ZERO chance Bam is a Blazer unless Dame is going the other way...that would be completely counter to what either team would want.

S.W.A.N · Post #831 » by **S.W.A.N** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:23 am

mtcan wrote:Bam basically anchors the Heat defence.

There is ZERO chance Bam is a Blazer unless Dame is going the other way...that would be completely counter to what either team would want.

Exactly.

This is just Portland posturing. Teams smell blood in the water so they sending out all the smoke signals they can that they not desperate to find a second star for Dame. Pascal or some other good but not top 5 in the nba star is going to be their target when it comes down to draft night.

If they don't trade the pick on draft night it means dame gone (probably the smart choice) and that seems unlikely. It seems their ownership/management wants to ride or die with Dame.

LoveMyRaps · Post #832 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:24 am

This looks like a reasonable framework for a trade. What do y'all think?
No team in the league needs to upgrade their frontcourt and defense more than the Mavericks. Portland retains #3 while getting Dame that #2 in Siakam. Raps get Sharpe + lottery picks.

Zeno · Post #833 » by **Zeno** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:27 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:This looks like a reasonable framework for a trade. What do y'all think?
No team in the league needs to upgrade their frontcourt and defense more than the Mavericks. Portland retains #3 while getting Dame that #2 in Siakam. Raps get Sharpe + lottery picks.

Dallas wouldn't do that. Nurkic is a bad contract and they are giving up the 10th pick. For what? Boucher?

TNRaps4life · Post #834 » by **TNRaps4life** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:29 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:This looks like a reasonable framework for a trade. What do y'all think?
No team in the league needs to upgrade their frontcourt and defense more than the Mavericks. Portland retains #3 while getting Dame that #2 in Siakam. Raps get Sharpe + lottery picks.

Dallas won't do this

JRoy · Post #835 » by **JRoy** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:37 am

TNRaps4life wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:This looks like a reasonable framework for a trade. What do y'all think?
No team in the league needs to upgrade their frontcourt and defense more than the Mavericks. Portland retains #3 while getting Dame that #2 in Siakam. Raps get Sharpe + lottery picks.

Dallas won't do this

POR either.

anotherhomer · Post #836 » by **anotherhomer** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:44 am

S.W.A.N wrote:
mtcan wrote:Bam basically anchors the Heat defence.

There is ZERO chance Bam is a Blazer unless Dame is going the other way...that would be completely counter to what either team would want.

Exactly.

This is just Portland posturing. Teams smell blood in the water so they sending out all the smoke signals they can that they not desperate to find a second star for Dame. Pascal or some other good but not top 5 in the nba star is going to be their target when it comes down to draft night.

If they don't trade the pick on draft night it means dame gone (probably the smart choice) and that seems unlikely. It seems their ownership/management wants to ride or die with Dame.

It's good business sense to ride or die with the dame

It shows the organization honors their players and making an effort to field a competitive team around dame

And good when come to selling the team in 2 years

HumbleRen · Post #837 » by **HumbleRen** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:46 am

I'm just glad we're finally seeing this marriage potentially come to an end lol.

Feel like Dame and Portland have been beating around the bushes for years now.

Dame deserves to be in a franchise who will actually try to build around him in good faith.

Zeno · Post #838 » by **Zeno** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:52 am

HumbleRen wrote:I'm just glad we're finally seeing this marriage potentially come to an end lol.

Feel like Dame and Portland have been beating around the bushes for years now.

Dame deserves to be in a franchise who will actually try to build around him in good faith.

It just took them so long to take an L on talent in a trade for the sake of fit. Their gm basically threw away his prime trying not to lose on a CJ trade. He was just too arrogant.

HumbleRen · Post #839 » by **HumbleRen** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:04 am

Zeno wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:I'm just glad we're finally seeing this marriage potentially come to an end lol.

Feel like Dame and Portland have been beating around the bushes for years now.

Dame deserves to be in a franchise who will actually try to build around him in good faith.

It just took them so long to take an L on talent in a trade for the sake of fit. Their gm basically threw away his prime trying not to lose on a CJ trade. He was just too arrogant.

Post #840 » by **lebron stopper** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:17 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Zeno wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:I'm just glad we're finally seeing this marriage potentially come to an end lol.

Feel like Dame and Portland have been beating around the bushes for years now.

Dame deserves to be in a franchise who will actually try to build around him in good faith.

It just took them so long to take an L on talent in a trade for the sake of fit. Their gm basically threw away his prime trying not to lose on a CJ trade. He was just too arrogant.

Easily one of Neil Olshey's stupidest trades, which is saying something since he's had a lot of them. Covington was nice, but he was never a defensive stopper nor a defensive anchor, and he certainly wasn't worth two first round picks.

What's even funnier is the Blazers current GM (Joe Cronin) dumped Covington and Powell onto the Clippers for basically nothing in return, even though both of them were having good seasons and could each bring back a first round pick at least. Lawrence Frank and Jerry West completely ripped him off, and now he has less assets to work with than before.

Just absolute amateur hour from two terrible GMs.