2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2

[deeps6x]

I'm more interested in who you like with the Indy pick (15-22 range). My gut says we will have to convey our pick this year.

I'm kind of liking Dalton Knecht. He can be our GTJ replacement.

Knecht is widely projected to go in the lottery. Also he's a senior dominating college basketball, guys like that typically go on to be role players if they're lucky enough not to bust completely. What other skills does he have? Is he a high level defender? A high level rebounder or shot blocker? A high level passer? If he's there in the 2nd round maybe I take a flyer on him, I wouldn't use a 1st on him though.

You say he is projected to go in the lottery but you wouldn't use a first on him?

I'm saying we are very likely picking 19-21, outside the lottery, and if he is still available then, he would make for a good cheap 6th man replacement for GTJ, on a far cheaper rookie salary. We could spend Gary's money on an upgrade this summer. If Knecht turns out to be more then a scorer, great. I don't expect he will at his age though. But hey, we'd have his prime years locked up at a cheap price. I think he'd be decent value for the 20th pick in a less then stellar draft class. If you go in expecting him to be your second unit shooter, you won't be disappointed. Yeah, he's 22, but that fits in nicely with Scottie/IQ/RJ/Dick going forward.

If we luck into keeping our own pick, THAT is where you shoot for the high upside, starter level, potential all-star, type of player. However, I'm expecting at 6th, it might come down to Topic, Sheppard or Dillingham, which is more of a BPA then position of need pick. Have the lottery gods smile on us and move up higher then 6th and it gets a little more interesting.

[deeps6x]

Who do you like for the Indy pick Reeko?

[deeps6x]

I wouldn't mind picking up Tidjane Salaun with one of our picks. Wasn't Masai scouting him a month ago or so?

[TimeForChange]

If the raptors keep the top 6 pick, then I think Cody Williams will be the target.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Knecht's actually a decent shot blocker. The trajectory from JUCO to small conference star to major conference star gives me some confidence that he's not going to pack it in with some rookie struggles.

[Jerry Lucas]

I wouldn't mind picking up Tidjane Salaun with one of our picks. Wasn't Masai scouting him a month ago or so?

Masai pulled the trigger on the Siakam trade only 3 days after being spotted in France watching him play.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I wouldn't mind picking up Tidjane Salaun with one of our picks. Wasn't Masai scouting him a month ago or so?

Masai pulled the trigger on the Siakam trade only 3 days after being spotted in France watching him play.

Nah, he's in France every year. All execs go on fun work trips to catch up with old friends. Scouts and AGMs do all the heavy work, and then the exec on draft night has the final say. I'd bet you could find "Masai saw X" rumours every single season, but the last guy he took out of Europe was Evan Fournier over a decade ago.

Siakam and the Pacers had Masai cornered, so there's nothing suspicious about the timing.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Knecht very likely isn't going to be available at Pacers pick.

[Reeko]

Who do you like for the Indy pick Reeko?

Honestly couldn’t tell you. I’m still looking at guys projected towards the top of the draft.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I'm still targeting Missi if he's there at Indy pick. His production relative to basketball experience is higher than anyone in the draft I believe and then you're getting a high level athlete who can guard in space at the 5 and plays with fire. If he puts it together there's a really talented player there.

[manjusaka]

I'm still targeting Missi if he's there at Indy pick. His production relative to basketball experience is higher than anyone in the draft I believe and then you're getting a high level athlete who can guard in space at the 5 and plays with fire. If he puts it together there's a really talented player there.

Hoping he would drop like Gradey, but it more likely he would be gone before the Pacers picks.

[TimeForChange]

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[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

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He's been flashing that kind of undisciplined gameplay all year. If he had displayed more discipline I'd take him more seriously but I don't know how you can draft him that high with so much footage like that. Measurables are great and all but you need feel to put the measurables to use. The red flag for me was finding out how long he's been playing ball (according to him since he was 7 years old and actively until now... so yes he's young but he's not anywhere near new to the sport).

[Kevin Willis]

I am trying to get into this draft but it's hard. A couple of players seem talented and a good fit but don't know if we can get them. Other than that, the upside of many of these guys is limited or they have some major flaws.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I am trying to get into this draft but it's hard. A couple of players seem talented and a good fit but don't know if we can get them. Other than that, the upside of many of these guys is limited or they have some major flaws.

Filipowski will be available. Interesting to note he missed an entire offseason of development due to hip surgery (which surgery seems to have been very successful). I wonder if the surgery will affect the way teams view him.

But regardless of that, he impacts every inch of the floor and clearly is a premiere prospect this draft. I think the 8th-9th player off bench is a false ceiling many are imposing. He's one of those guys who it's becoming harder to find major weaknesses now that he has shored up his D a bit, is playing tougher (apparently his hips were to blame year 1, not sure but could be true) and seems to be a guy whose all-around game will continue to improve. He has so many tools, great work ethic, quite intelligent - these qualities make for a good investment.

I know a lot of guys who love him but haven't made the leap to place him in top 10 yet, I bumped him to #4 on my board. I'll take my chances with a toolsy, competitive and smart stretch 5 over some long 3+D wings with less multidimensional impact, fewer tools and questionable shooting histories. Filipowski impacts every single inch of the floor from dribbling in the open court, disrupting passing lanes, interior D, banging in the post, perimeter shooting, facilitating, driving and back to basket ability... the perimeter D isn't great but improved. He can be a bit foul prone at times but a ton of the higher tier prospects are this year and he will need to work on being more disciplined. Shooting is king so I like the mold of a high ceiling offensive shooting + passing 5 with adequate D over a stud defender with just adequate shooting + passing. It's a shame Ware will most likely be outworked and outsmarted by Flip.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I am trying to get into this draft but it's hard. A couple of players seem talented and a good fit but don't know if we can get them. Other than that, the upside of many of these guys is limited or they have some major flaws.

Filipowski will be available. Interesting to note he missed an entire offseason of development due to hip surgery (which surgery seems to have been very successful). I wonder if the surgery will affect the way teams view him.

But regardless of that, he impacts every inch of the floor and clearly is a premiere prospect this draft. I think the 8th-9th player off bench is a false ceiling many are imposing. He's one of those guys who it's becoming harder to find major weaknesses now that he has shored up his D a bit, is playing tougher (apparently his hips were to blame year 1, not sure but could be true) and seems to be a guy whose all-around game will continue to improve. He has so many tools, great work ethic, quite intelligent - these qualities make for a good investment.

I know a lot of guys who love him but haven't made the leap to place him in top 10 yet, I bumped him to #4 on my board. I'll take my chances with a toolsy, competitive and smart stretch 5 over some long 3+D wings with less multidimensional impact, fewer tools and questionable shooting histories. Filipowski impacts every single inch of the floor from dribbling in the open court, disrupting passing lanes, interior D, banging in the post, perimeter shooting, facilitating, driving and back to basket ability... the perimeter D isn't great but improved. He can be a bit foul prone at times but a ton of the higher tier prospects are this year and he will need to work on being more disciplined. Shooting is king so I like the mold of a high ceiling offensive shooting + passing 5 with adequate D over a stud defender with just adequate shooting + passing. It's a shame Ware will most likely be outworked and outsmarted by Flip.

Flip was a great pick last year. He’s an even better pick this year.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I am trying to get into this draft but it's hard. A couple of players seem talented and a good fit but don't know if we can get them. Other than that, the upside of many of these guys is limited or they have some major flaws.

Filipowski will be available. Interesting to note he missed an entire offseason of development due to hip surgery (which surgery seems to have been very successful). I wonder if the surgery will affect the way teams view him.

But regardless of that, he impacts every inch of the floor and clearly is a premiere prospect this draft. I think the 8th-9th player off bench is a false ceiling many are imposing. He's one of those guys who it's becoming harder to find major weaknesses now that he has shored up his D a bit, is playing tougher (apparently his hips were to blame year 1, not sure but could be true) and seems to be a guy whose all-around game will continue to improve. He has so many tools, great work ethic, quite intelligent - these qualities make for a good investment.

I know a lot of guys who love him but haven't made the leap to place him in top 10 yet, I bumped him to #4 on my board. I'll take my chances with a toolsy, competitive and smart stretch 5 over some long 3+D wings with less multidimensional impact, fewer tools and questionable shooting histories. Filipowski impacts every single inch of the floor from dribbling in the open court, disrupting passing lanes, interior D, banging in the post, perimeter shooting, facilitating, driving and back to basket ability... the perimeter D isn't great but improved. He can be a bit foul prone at times but a ton of the higher tier prospects are this year and he will need to work on being more disciplined. Shooting is king so I like the mold of a high ceiling offensive shooting + passing 5 with adequate D over a stud defender with just adequate shooting + passing. It's a shame Ware will most likely be outworked and outsmarted by Flip.

Flip was a great pick last year. He’s an even better pick this year.

My initial criticism of him last year was that he was soft and he was IMO. Supposedly his hip pain limited his mobility and caused a great amount of distress and discomfort while playing and it seems as though the surgery has helped him a ton and the productivity backs it up. Too much of a mystery box with questionable production last year (low block rate, very inefficient from field for big man, poor AST:TO) but he was still a 7 footer with a diverse skillset, a 7.5 freshman BPM playing on a big stage against good competition and solid HS footage. He has boosted his stock tremendously as last year I would have looked at him as a guy you take in the early to mid 20's. Now I think he is a serious top 5 candidate but will likely be taken after a few probable busts somewhere in the lottery.

"With four dunks on the night, his athleticism was clearly a step ahead of where it was last year. The procedure clearly opened things up for him to run, jump, and cut more freely than he did as a freshman.

“They felt incredible. I wasn’t thinking about them once the whole game until I sat out the final stretch. I didn’t have any pain or thoughts about my hips holding me back. It was just poetry for me.”"

[CazOnReal]

Yeah I think based solely on the fit perspective of the current team Risacher would be #1

Risacher as the O.G. replacement is why I waffle between him and Sarr if we luck out with the 1st or even 2nd pick if Sarr goes 1st. Both fit well but one is more seamless at the 3 than Sarr is at the 4 (assuming you don't trade Poeltl and make Sarr the 5 which I feel he's better suited to being).

I wouldn't mind picking up Tidjane Salaun with one of our picks. Wasn't Masai scouting him a month ago or so?

Masai pulled the trigger on the Siakam trade only 3 days after being spotted in France watching him play.

Siri, show me the definition of "coincidence".

If the plan was to "suck for Salaun" then they should have perhaps started to rest players or the like far earlier. Even at the time it was going to be tough to match Portland. As is, they might only be able to manage 6th odds pre-lottery.

[Kevin Willis]

I am trying to get into this draft but it's hard. A couple of players seem talented and a good fit but don't know if we can get them. Other than that, the upside of many of these guys is limited or they have some major flaws.

Filipowski will be available. Interesting to note he missed an entire offseason of development due to hip surgery (which surgery seems to have been very successful). I wonder if the surgery will affect the way teams view him.

But regardless of that, he impacts every inch of the floor and clearly is a premiere prospect this draft. I think the 8th-9th player off bench is a false ceiling many are imposing. He's one of those guys who it's becoming harder to find major weaknesses now that he has shored up his D a bit, is playing tougher (apparently his hips were to blame year 1, not sure but could be true) and seems to be a guy whose all-around game will continue to improve. He has so many tools, great work ethic, quite intelligent - these qualities make for a good investment.

I know a lot of guys who love him but haven't made the leap to place him in top 10 yet, I bumped him to #4 on my board. I'll take my chances with a toolsy, competitive and smart stretch 5 over some long 3+D wings with less multidimensional impact, fewer tools and questionable shooting histories. Filipowski impacts every single inch of the floor from dribbling in the open court, disrupting passing lanes, interior D, banging in the post, perimeter shooting, facilitating, driving and back to basket ability... the perimeter D isn't great but improved. He can be a bit foul prone at times but a ton of the higher tier prospects are this year and he will need to work on being more disciplined. Shooting is king so I like the mold of a high ceiling offensive shooting + passing 5 with adequate D over a stud defender with just adequate shooting + passing. It's a shame Ware will most likely be outworked and outsmarted by Flip.

Flip was a great pick last year. He’s an even better pick this year.

I remember Flip, he was a good player last year, in the lottery at one point but hear nothing much this year.

[ArthurVandelay]

I keep flipping on Filipowski

He kinda sums up this draft lol