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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#821 » by Dexjackson » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:06 am

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Tripod wrote:Had a dream we won the draft lottery and took Flagg....then Condon with Port 2nd. Traded Gradey for Lively.

And Darko decided to run 2 "lines" and just ourpace other teams and smothered them with pressure defense. We ran with:

IQ, Ochai, BI, Barnes, Yak
Shead, Walter, RJ, Flagg, Lively
Lawson, Rhoden, Battle, Mogbo, Condon didn't play


Shead, Walter, RJ, Flagg, and Lively off the bench would be fire. I don't think we can get Lively for GD though.

While I agree...there were Mavs fans that were fine with it a few weeks ago because they still have Gafford and AD to play C and Gradey gives them a young potential shooter who can learn from and someday hopefully replace Klay.


I would be all over that if we could. I would even throw a few 2nds in there to seal the deal if that'll move the needle.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#822 » by Grindhouse » Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:02 pm

i am older so I like to remind the younger generation its not about collecting talent, good GM’s build teams.

lakers had shaq, kobe, eddie jones, nick van exel, derek fisher, robert horry, elden campbell.

they got rid of eddie jones and nick and made room for the young bucks who fit better.

history is important RJ and IQ are not part of our future
poetlt will not make it to the champship team we build

if we draft queen the clock starts scootie, queen, ingram, dick. thats a far better line up than rj and or IQ
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Post#823 » by Tripod » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:03 pm

Grindhouse wrote:i am older so I like to remind the younger generation its not about collecting talent, good GM’s build teams.

lakers had shaq, kobe, eddie jones, nick van exel, derek fisher, robert horry, elden campbell.

they got rid of eddie jones and nick and made room for the young bucks who fit better.

history is important RJ and IQ are not part of our future
poetlt will not make it to the champship team we build

if we draft queen the clock starts scootie, queen, ingram, dick. thats a far better line up than rj and or IQ

Not sure I agree with this.

Yak is 29 years old....we traded for Gasol when he was 34. Masai knows the value of seasoned vets that are reliable....and that is Yak.

As for IQ and RJ....time will tell.

Plus...you added Queen and removed Yak, RJ and IQ. How is that better than keeping all those guys and just adding Queen to it?

We will definitely make more changes the next few years. Hell, the Champ year 3/5 of our starting lineup wasn't part of the year the year earlier.
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Post#824 » by youngRAPZ » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:28 pm

Tripod wrote:
Grindhouse wrote:i am older so I like to remind the younger generation its not about collecting talent, good GM’s build teams.

lakers had shaq, kobe, eddie jones, nick van exel, derek fisher, robert horry, elden campbell.

they got rid of eddie jones and nick and made room for the young bucks who fit better.

history is important RJ and IQ are not part of our future
poetlt will not make it to the champship team we build

if we draft queen the clock starts scootie, queen, ingram, dick. thats a far better line up than rj and or IQ

Not sure I agree with this.

Yak is 29 years old....we traded for Gasol when he was 34. Masai knows the value of seasoned vets that are reliable....and that is Yak.

As for IQ and RJ....time will tell.

Plus...you added Queen and removed Yak, RJ and IQ. How is that better than keeping all those guys and just adding Queen to it?

We will definitely make more changes the next few years. Hell, the Champ year 3/5 of our starting lineup wasn't part of the year the year earlier.

lol I was confused reading that queen ingram Scottie and dick comment as well.


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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#825 » by Grindhouse » Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:21 am

youngRAPZ wrote:
Tripod wrote:
Grindhouse wrote:i am older so I like to remind the younger generation its not about collecting talent, good GM’s build teams.

lakers had shaq, kobe, eddie jones, nick van exel, derek fisher, robert horry, elden campbell.

they got rid of eddie jones and nick and made room for the young bucks who fit better.

history is important RJ and IQ are not part of our future
poetlt will not make it to the champship team we build

if we draft queen the clock starts scootie, queen, ingram, dick. thats a far better line up than rj and or IQ

Not sure I agree with this.

Yak is 29 years old....we traded for Gasol when he was 34. Masai knows the value of seasoned vets that are reliable....and that is Yak.

As for IQ and RJ....time will tell.

Plus...you added Queen and removed Yak, RJ and IQ. How is that better than keeping all those guys and just adding Queen to it?

We will definitely make more changes the next few years. Hell, the Champ year 3/5 of our starting lineup wasn't part of the year the year earlier.

lol I was confused reading that queen ingram Scottie and dick comment as well.


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your not going to move all at the same time.I would like to see yak stay next season minus rj. give IQ another season of evaluation. I dont view IQ as a point guard nor do I view him as my ideal shooting guard fit. plus is defence at point of attack doesnt even make him a starter on a team I would build
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#826 » by Thaddy » Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:44 am



We should be trying to build our own double big line up. This is one of the reasons Barnes isn't great to build with, he isn't really that big as a PF and I've noticed he struggles against double big line ups like Cleveland and OKC. I think long term we should be looking at him as a 3, not sure how that goes now with Ingram here.
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Post#827 » by HangTime » Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:10 am

Ace Bailey makes me think this How Bosh would play if he grew up in this era, That's what i'm seeing.

Like twin playing styles in this era.
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Post#828 » by Zeno » Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:56 pm

I know some, probably most people will freak out about this but I could really see us trading RJ and Yak for Sabonis depending on who we get with our pick. Shaves 4.3 million off the books under the tax and would be about as good as he can be under Darko. Really puts pressure on Scottie to be a secondary rim protector.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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Post#829 » by youngRAPZ » Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:02 pm

Zeno wrote:I know some, probably most people will freak out about this but I could really see us trading RJ and Yak for Sabonis depending on who we get with our pick. Shaves 4.3 million off the books under the tax and would be about as good as he can be under Darko. Really puts pressure on Scottie to be a secondary rim protector.

Doesn’t really make sense for the kings with DD and ZL already there.


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Post#830 » by mademan » Thu Mar 20, 2025 4:35 pm

I wonder if RJ has gained enough value to be swapped for a better fitting piece this summer. He's clearly the odd man out with Ingram in town now
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Post#831 » by Tripod » Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:50 pm

mademan wrote:I wonder if RJ has gained enough value to be swapped for a better fitting piece this summer. He's clearly the odd man out with Ingram in town now

I don't see how he us the odd man out without seeing them them all play together.

Let's see what they do next year and go from there. We have no need to rush in trading a 24 year old getting 21+pts a night
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#832 » by Grindhouse » Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:12 pm

Tripod wrote:
mademan wrote:I wonder if RJ has gained enough value to be swapped for a better fitting piece this summer. He's clearly the odd man out with Ingram in town now

I don't see how he us the odd man out without seeing them them all play together.

Let's see what they do next year and go from there. We have no need to rush in trading a 24 year old getting 21+pts a night


his defence tho and yes he is a good scorer but its how you score. a example would be gradey if he can be consistent he would damn near be untradeable because he creates gravity without the ball
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#833 » by Tripod » Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:41 pm

Grindhouse wrote:
Tripod wrote:
mademan wrote:I wonder if RJ has gained enough value to be swapped for a better fitting piece this summer. He's clearly the odd man out with Ingram in town now

I don't see how he us the odd man out without seeing them them all play together.

Let's see what they do next year and go from there. We have no need to rush in trading a 24 year old getting 21+pts a night


his defence tho and yes he is a good scorer but its how you score. a example would be gradey if he can be consistent he would damn near be untradeable because he creates gravity without the ball

Wait...RJ's defense...but not Gradey's???

All I am saying is there is no rush...let's see how these guys start next year.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#834 » by mademan » Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:17 pm

Tripod wrote:
mademan wrote:I wonder if RJ has gained enough value to be swapped for a better fitting piece this summer. He's clearly the odd man out with Ingram in town now

I don't see how he us the odd man out without seeing them them all play together.

Let's see what they do next year and go from there. We have no need to rush in trading a 24 year old getting 21+pts a night


Ya i dont mind waiting, but RJ is who he is. A poor defender as the guy who'll be the third option (maybe even 4th with IQ) is just not something winning teams have. But ya, i doubt he gets traded this summer unless we luck into Flagg or Harper
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#835 » by Dexjackson » Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:02 pm

mademan wrote:
Tripod wrote:
mademan wrote:I wonder if RJ has gained enough value to be swapped for a better fitting piece this summer. He's clearly the odd man out with Ingram in town now

I don't see how he us the odd man out without seeing them them all play together.

Let's see what they do next year and go from there. We have no need to rush in trading a 24 year old getting 21+pts a night


Ya i dont mind waiting, but RJ is who he is. A poor defender as the guy who'll be the third option (maybe even 4th with IQ) is just not something winning teams have. But ya, i doubt he gets traded this summer unless we luck into Flagg or Harper


He's the odd man out because IQ isn't going to get moved with that contract and neither is BI. None of them are good defenders. You need at least one person who can defend POA in the SL. No way RJ is going to average 21+ pts a night if everyone is healthy next year.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#836 » by Morris_Shatford » Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:36 pm

Zeno wrote:I know some, probably most people will freak out about this but I could really see us trading RJ and Yak for Sabonis depending on who we get with our pick. Shaves 4.3 million off the books under the tax and would be about as good as he can be under Darko. Really puts pressure on Scottie to be a secondary rim protector.


Not a crazy idea;
Had you asked me if we should add Ingram to the Raptors a year ago at what his percieved trade value was, I would have likely said no but given what we gave for him I came around quickly. With Sabonis its largely the same thing, he plays a position we could benefit from so it really comes down to a matter of cost.

I don't think the Kings benefit from RJ but there are no shortage of teams who might who could participate in a deal.
Having no idea what market value is for Sabonis, if you can get him cheap enough why not?
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#837 » by DreamTeam09 » Sat Mar 22, 2025 12:11 am

Tripod wrote:
mademan wrote:I wonder if RJ has gained enough value to be swapped for a better fitting piece this summer. He's clearly the odd man out with Ingram in town now

I don't see how he us the odd man out without seeing them them all play together.

Let's see what they do next year and go from there. We have no need to rush in trading a 24 year old getting 21+pts a night


I really don't understand why everyone doesn't wanna take this same approach and have this same midstate. Like let's just wait and see lol, he's an efficient 21 without even being a ball hog
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#838 » by HangTime » Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:15 am

Hypothetical -
If the Raptors end up with the 2nd pick, what would it take for you to trade down to the 4th pick?

If it was Brooklyn would you want #4, #18, and #24? too much?

or, for any other team
trade down to #4 ,
get an extra prospect, like Leonard Miller ("mystery level" type of player)
and dump some salary (picking up more favourable contract(s)),
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#839 » by mademan » Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:41 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
Tripod wrote:
mademan wrote:I wonder if RJ has gained enough value to be swapped for a better fitting piece this summer. He's clearly the odd man out with Ingram in town now

I don't see how he us the odd man out without seeing them them all play together.

Let's see what they do next year and go from there. We have no need to rush in trading a 24 year old getting 21+pts a night


I really don't understand why everyone doesn't wanna take this same approach and have this same midstate. Like let's just wait and see lol, he's an efficient 21 without even being a ball hog


What efficient 21? He's below average in league efficiency. Like i dont mind taking a wait and see approach, but ofc he's the odd man out. He's not some fresh face 20 year old...he's not old, but he is what he is. Year over year negative defender and year over year poor efficiency
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#840 » by Tripod » Sat Mar 22, 2025 2:28 pm

mademan wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
Tripod wrote:I don't see how he us the odd man out without seeing them them all play together.

Let's see what they do next year and go from there. We have no need to rush in trading a 24 year old getting 21+pts a night


I really don't understand why everyone doesn't wanna take this same approach and have this same midstate. Like let's just wait and see lol, he's an efficient 21 without even being a ball hog


What efficient 21? He's below average in league efficiency. Like i dont mind taking a wait and see approach, but ofc he's the odd man out. He's not some fresh face 20 year old...he's not old, but he is what he is. Year over year negative defender and year over year poor efficiency

Isn't he efficient when he plays with Barnes? Thought I saw/heard that stat....could be wrong.

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