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Post#821 » by Boogie! » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:16 am

pingpongrac wrote:I find it funny how when Indiana stole G1 people were saying that performance was impossible to repeat, but Caruso and Wiggins scoring 38 points on 77 TS% tonight isn't even brought up. :lol:

After jumping out to a 1-0 lead, G2 was always going to be a blowout in OKC's favour unless Indiana played their best game of the season. Pacers are still in good shape and have a chance if they can take at least one of the next two games.


Okc is just flat out the better team though. Indiana has pulled out some miraculous wins all playoffs, but i just can’t see them winning 4 against okc.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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Post#822 » by tsherkin » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:34 pm

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Post#823 » by Los_29 » Mon Jun 9, 2025 3:08 pm

Great bounce back game for the Thunder. They won this game at the FT line.

That Paul George trade is just wild. Clippers might’ve just given the Thunder a championship. lol. SGA was incredible once again.
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Post#824 » by NinjaBro » Mon Jun 9, 2025 3:19 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Series over. Gentleman's sweep
Salty Knicks fan, go back to your hole
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Post#825 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Jun 9, 2025 3:20 pm

Los_29 wrote:Great bounce back game for the Thunder. They won this game at the FT line.

That Paul George trade is just wild. Clippers might’ve just given the Thunder a championship. lol. SGA was incredible once again.


From the Clippers standpoint though, they had to do it because it guaranteed them Kawhi. They wouldn't have done this trade if Kawhi re-signed in TOR or went to the Lakers. It was also impossible to predict that SGA would become a MVP. if SGA was just a really good player instead of a MVP, the trade then is mostly just a bunch of mid-late 1sts. This is what happens though when you give GM duties to a star player and his uncle.

We're lucky we got the last ounce of juice out of Kawhi though. Ha.
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Post#826 » by HumbleRen » Mon Jun 9, 2025 4:47 pm

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Post#827 » by Raptaurus » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:02 pm

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Los_29 wrote:Great bounce back game for the Thunder. They won this game at the FT line.

That Paul George trade is just wild. Clippers might’ve just given the Thunder a championship. lol. SGA was incredible once again.


From the Clippers standpoint though, they had to do it because it guaranteed them Kawhi. They wouldn't have done this trade if Kawhi re-signed in TOR or went to the Lakers. It was also impossible to predict that SGA would become a MVP. if SGA was just a really good player instead of a MVP, the trade then is mostly just a bunch of mid-late 1sts. This is what happens though when you give GM duties to a star player and his uncle.

We're lucky we got the last ounce of juice out of Kawhi though. Ha.


I blame Kwahi for this more.

The Clippers had a truck load of picks and decent rotation guys. They had a promising rookie in SGA. Cap space could have been created to sign other big free agents. Those picks could have been traded for other stars or even PG but not from such a disadvantaged position……

I get that he wanted to go back home but instead of trusting the front office to put together a competitive team, he decided to play GM and screwed the whole team over for years to come.
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Post#828 » by HumbleRen » Mon Jun 9, 2025 6:46 pm

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Post#829 » by DelAbbot » Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:45 am

Los_29 wrote:Great bounce back game for the Thunder. They won this game at the FT line.

That Paul George trade is just wild. Clippers might’ve just given the Thunder a championship. lol. SGA was incredible once again.


I see you have started building that narrative Sam Presti has nothing to do with this soon-to-be championship
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Post#830 » by ItsDanger » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:16 am

DelAbbot wrote:
Los_29 wrote:Great bounce back game for the Thunder. They won this game at the FT line.

That Paul George trade is just wild. Clippers might’ve just given the Thunder a championship. lol. SGA was incredible once again.


I see you have started building that narrative Sam Presti has nothing to do with this soon-to-be championship

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Post#831 » by Los_29 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:03 am

OakleyDokely wrote:
Los_29 wrote:Great bounce back game for the Thunder. They won this game at the FT line.

That Paul George trade is just wild. Clippers might’ve just given the Thunder a championship. lol. SGA was incredible once again.


From the Clippers standpoint though, they had to do it because it guaranteed them Kawhi. They wouldn't have done this trade if Kawhi re-signed in TOR or went to the Lakers. It was also impossible to predict that SGA would become a MVP. if SGA was just a really good player instead of a MVP, the trade then is mostly just a bunch of mid-late 1sts. This is what happens though when you give GM duties to a star player and his uncle.

We're lucky we got the last ounce of juice out of Kawhi though. Ha.


Oh yeah for sure, they had to do it.

What a break for Presti. Made his entire career.
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Post#832 » by Mikistan » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:44 am

Los_29 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
Los_29 wrote:Great bounce back game for the Thunder. They won this game at the FT line.

That Paul George trade is just wild. Clippers might’ve just given the Thunder a championship. lol. SGA was incredible once again.


From the Clippers standpoint though, they had to do it because it guaranteed them Kawhi. They wouldn't have done this trade if Kawhi re-signed in TOR or went to the Lakers. It was also impossible to predict that SGA would become a MVP. if SGA was just a really good player instead of a MVP, the trade then is mostly just a bunch of mid-late 1sts. This is what happens though when you give GM duties to a star player and his uncle.

We're lucky we got the last ounce of juice out of Kawhi though. Ha.


Oh yeah for sure, they had to do it.

What a break for Presti. Made his entire career.

Presti was already very successful in his career without the OKC/Clippers trade brk
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Post#833 » by ATLTimekeeper » Tue Jun 10, 2025 4:18 pm

Who wins if Indy drafts Jalen Williams instead of Mathurin and Cason Wallace instead of Jarace Walker? Also why did Indy waive Goga again?
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Post#834 » by DelAbbot » Tue Jun 10, 2025 4:29 pm

Mikistan wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
From the Clippers standpoint though, they had to do it because it guaranteed them Kawhi. They wouldn't have done this trade if Kawhi re-signed in TOR or went to the Lakers. It was also impossible to predict that SGA would become a MVP. if SGA was just a really good player instead of a MVP, the trade then is mostly just a bunch of mid-late 1sts. This is what happens though when you give GM duties to a star player and his uncle.

We're lucky we got the last ounce of juice out of Kawhi though. Ha.


Oh yeah for sure, they had to do it.

What a break for Presti. Made his entire career.

Presti was already very successful in his career without the OKC/Clippers trade brk


That Kawhi trade.

What a break for Masai. Made his entire career.
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Post#835 » by tsherkin » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:01 pm

DelAbbot wrote:
Mikistan wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Oh yeah for sure, they had to do it.

What a break for Presti. Made his entire career.

Presti was already very successful in his career without the OKC/Clippers trade brk


That Kawhi trade.

What a break for Masai. Made his entire career.


The Kawhi trade happened AFTER he won Executive of the Year with Denver. His work there "made his career," I'd rather think.
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Post#836 » by Clutch0z24 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:03 am

Mikistan wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
From the Clippers standpoint though, they had to do it because it guaranteed them Kawhi. They wouldn't have done this trade if Kawhi re-signed in TOR or went to the Lakers. It was also impossible to predict that SGA would become a MVP. if SGA was just a really good player instead of a MVP, the trade then is mostly just a bunch of mid-late 1sts. This is what happens though when you give GM duties to a star player and his uncle.

We're lucky we got the last ounce of juice out of Kawhi though. Ha.


Oh yeah for sure, they had to do it.

What a break for Presti. Made his entire career.

Presti was already very successful in his career without the OKC/Clippers trade brk


Exactly ....Dude forgot Presti already had success before this current team....Sounds more like jealousy that Presi was able to rebuild so fantastic after a few Middling seasons....Masai has yet to bounce back after Kawhi...

No Masai hate but that Lowry/DD team he inherited from BC and made it better....After Kawhi left its been shaky at best....Masai needs to build a team up before we start discrediting a GM whos built 2 teams from the ground up that made 2 finals runs and might win it this year.
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Post#837 » by sidsid » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:18 am

ATLTimekeeper wrote:Who wins if Indy drafts Jalen Williams instead of Mathurin and Cason Wallace instead of Jarace Walker? Also why did Indy waive Goga again?


One of the core issues Indy has is Hali as a world class defensive liability and building a coherent defense around him.

Nembhard is too small and the full court pressure D is a way to mask and mitigate how they bend and break in the halfcourt D (they want to spend as little time in it as possible). Once the pick is set, you can forget about Nembhard providing meaningful back pressure deterrence, and then the choices are converging in the paint or allowing easy paint points.

Replacing him in the starting lineup with JDub really provides the optionality you're missing. Now you've got size. Nesmith at POA, JDub or Siakam on whoever fits best for the other two threats. Teams can still target Hali, but you're better equipped in all facets of D.

Then there's the big downstream effect of replacing Mathurin minutes with Nembhard minutes. The Pacers bench minutes are not actually strengths, they are just a strategic approach to keep the pace and style of play in the Pacers favour, and buy minutes for the starters to rest and play high octane and wear teams down. This is how the Knicks got whittled down to a nub, where you see OG scoring at will in the paint, but shooting horribly from 3 after getting killed by the Pacers pace. Now those are a strength when paired with TJ. You're looking at winning them.

You don't even have to bring Cason into it. The Thunder have pretty big holes to fill on offense with that change alone (I'm not starting Mathurin. He might play less then Joe is). I'd pick the Pacers. It gives them the flexibility they are pretty much missing everywhere. Although I wonder how much the Hali targeting amps up after that.
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Post#838 » by sidsid » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:11 am

On the topic of the Pacers drafting, a chart that really illustrates how hard it is outside of the top of the lotto.

Forget top 5 picks, things really go downhill as soon as you're out of the top 3.

Can't say the Spurs are brilliant in drafting when 2 of their picks in the last 3 drafts are not even choices.

https://bsky.app/profile/sethpartnow.bsky.social/post/3lrbfx7xft22a
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Post#839 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:44 am

sidsid wrote:On the topic of the Pacers drafting, a chart that really illustrates how hard it is outside of the top of the lotto.

Forget top 5 picks, things really go downhill as soon as you're out of the top 3.

Can't say the Spurs are brilliant in drafting when 2 of their picks in the last 3 drafts are not even choices.

https://bsky.app/profile/sethpartnow.bsky.social/post/3lrbfx7xft22a


The Pacers GM famously picked uneven leg Greg Oden over Kevin Durant, who was drafted by the 'genius.' imo a subplot that I don't think I've seen talked about was how Pritchard did rebuild the Blazers into a dynasty that never was, while Presti at the exact same time accomplished the same thing. Here were are again with the two facing off in the finals. Pritchard's own misreads may have directly helped Presti get over the top.
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Post#840 » by HumbleRen » Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:59 am

ATLTimekeeper wrote:Who wins if Indy drafts Jalen Williams instead of Mathurin and Cason Wallace instead of Jarace Walker? Also why did Indy waive Goga again?


Indy would win.

J Dub is a top 15 defender in the world and Cason is arguably the best defender coming off the bench in the league after Caruso.

OKC doesn’t get past Denver with Mauthrin and Jarace Walker.

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