With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

[MoneyBall]

I think this is the first time in years I’m left shaking my head at a draft pick. I will probably never understand the logic of reaching way down for a safe pick just because of fit, and not drafting potential and talent and swinging for the fences with one of maybe 3 18 year old prospects. This team needed to swing for the fences.

Lots of ppl had CMB top 5 and analytically I believe he was top 3. He has 2 elite skills already, if he develops a shot he has an extremely high ceiling. Just because he has a high floor, doesn't mean he doesn't have an extremely high ceiling.

I don't ever recall seeing CMB in the top 5 in any mock drafts. I'm sure some have, but I don't think it was common.

[Mark_83]

Our first championship was built by accumulating talent even where there were redundancies and then trading from surplus to upgrade the roster.

We had JV but drafted Poeltl
We had Demar and Terrence Ross but drafted/acquired Norm
We had Lowry and Vasquez but drafted Delon and signed Fred as UDFA
We had 2-Pat but drafted Siakam

Drafting Delon allowed us to move Vasquez for picks that would become Norm and OG
Norm allowed us to trade Ross for Ibaka.
Poeltl and Demar were traded for Kawhi
Fred allowed us to move Delon with JV for Gasol

When the time is right the redundancies will be dealt with. Who knows, maybe CMB eventually makes Scottie a trade piece for a star or vice versa.

[Clutch0z24]

I actually think CMB was the best player on the draft board we could choose from... not sure there are so many of you upset.

I think we all know hes talented and skilled i think the people that are upset are more upset about the fit than his talent....He operates the same spots on the court as our "Franchise player" And plays the exact same position as him....Can't shoot the ball as of today....Its obvious thats why some are confused and also some people just don't watch footage of college ball and go off mock drafts...

But i think the people who watched him and also have concerns question his fit with the team since hes a non shooting undersized big who can't play C to fit with Barnes...If you play Barnes/CMB together you are giving up alot of size which teams will take advantage of .....With this current team i think CMB is a career bench player....

Only way you get the best out of CMB is if you reconstruct the team with players that fit his style of play more.....Need 2 guards that are lethal 3 point shooters and a 3&D stretch big....Ingram is a fine fit, Quickley as well...Outside of that you have Barrett/Barnes/Yak/Shead/Mogbo who are not a great fit ....Thats 6 players on the roster who are not great 3pt shooters...

Personally ithink CMB is good just yes question how he is going to fit long term unless a shake up happens roster wise.

[Double Helix]

I think this is the first time in years I’m left shaking my head at a draft pick. I will probably never understand the logic of reaching way down for a safe pick just because of fit, and not drafting potential and talent and swinging for the fences with one of maybe 3 18 year old prospects. This team needed to swing for the fences.

Lots of ppl had CMB top 5 and analytically I believe he was top 3. He has 2 elite skills already, if he develops a shot he has an extremely high ceiling. Just because he has a high floor, doesn't mean he doesn't have an extremely high ceiling.

I don't ever recall seeing CMB in the top 5 in any mock drafts. I'm sure some have, but I don't think it was common.

He means in analytic models. For example, the creator of Real +/- had him as the third best prospect after Flagg and Harper. Mostly due to his defence being Flagg-like.

[MoneyBall]

CMB's stats and physical profile look pretty similar to Kawhi's coming out of San Diego State... just saying.

Kawhi's wingspan is significantly greater.

[djsunyc]

Our first championship was built by accumulating talent even where there were redundancies and then trading from surplus to upgrade the roster.

We had JV but drafted Poeltl
We had Demar and Terrence Ross but drafted/acquired Norm
We had Lowry and Vasquez but drafted Delon and signed Fred as UDFA
We had 2-Pat but drafted Siakam

Drafting Delon allowed us to move Vasquez for picks that would become Norm and OG
Norm allowed us to trade Ross for Ibaka.
Poeltl and Demar were traded for Kawhi
Fred allowed us to move Delon with JV for Gasol

When the time is right the redundancies will be dealt with. Who knows, maybe CMB eventually makes Scottie a trade piece for a star or vice versa.

we just need to start winning games - then everyone's values go up and then you can make better trades.

[Basketball_Jones]

The two best defenders in the draft have pretty similar frames and measurables. CMB has the shorter neck.

Flagg 6’7.5 barefoot. So 6’9 rounded up in shoes.
CMB 6’6.5 barefoot so, 6’8 rounded up in shoes.

Flagg Weight: 221lbs
CMB weight: 239lbs

Flagg max vert: 35.5 inches
CMB max vert: 34.5 inches

Flagg wingspan: 7 feet
CMB wingspan: 7 feet

Flagg standing reach: 8’10.5
CMB standing reach: 8’10.5

The height difference is mostly neck also. Which is why they’re so similar elsewhere. Neck height is one of the least meaningful for the sport. So they’re similarly sized and athletically.

Flagg was considered a generational defensive talent. We added one also.

Yeah his combine stuff isnt that far off from Flagg. Basically middle of the pack type of athleticism, good size but not freakish. Basically I think he’s more talent than physical specimen, so we at least drafted a guy that knows how to play. Just a very unique set of skills though.

[DG88]

People are taking CMB's reaction the wrong way. He literally smiled right after his f bomb. These kids are having their dreams come true in the moment. I'm sure all of us when our dreams happen will not be thinking about nuances. It's going to be expressing your emotions of disbelief. You're going to curse lol. Either way I'm excited to have a rugged forward on the squad who can dribble, pass and has some shooting touch in the midrange. Yes, stretching his jumpshot to the 3 point line will be important, but I'm not worried about that right now. He's already stated that he's working on his mechanic and building it out. I'm excited to see him and Scottie terrorize on defense though.

[Raptorfan2012]

CMB's stats and physical profile look pretty similar to Kawhi's coming out of San Diego State... just saying.

Kawhi also spent 2 years in college. Shot .205 from 3 in his first year while shot .291 from 3 in his second year.

In comparison, CMB barely shot a 3 in his first year, and shot .265 from 3 in his second year.

[Gavin_TDThree]

I like him as a prospect. Based on his interviews he seems like a great dude as well. He's going to fit the vibes of this team 100%. I don't see All-star in his future but I see a guy who's going to have a solid 10+ year career as a high-level role player.

He's going to play the 4/5 early in his career because he can't shoot yet. So does our front court rotation look like:

Barnes/CMB
Jak/JM

Zero spacing there which is tough. Unless JM or Barnes comes back with a 3 in their bag it's going to be interesting.

IQ/Shead
RB/GD
BI/JW
SB/CMB
JP/JM

Would love a better back up C option and an upgrade at the 2. But this team if healthy isn't looking horrible.

[MoneyBall]

Lots of ppl had CMB top 5 and analytically I believe he was top 3. He has 2 elite skills already, if he develops a shot he has an extremely high ceiling. Just because he has a high floor, doesn't mean he doesn't have an extremely high ceiling.

I don't ever recall seeing CMB in the top 5 in any mock drafts. I'm sure some have, but I don't think it was common.

He means in analytic models. For example, the creator of Real +/- had him as the third best prospect after Flagg and Harper. Mostly due to his defence being Flagg-like.

Gotcha. Sam Vecenie had him as a tier 4 player alongside the likes of Maluach, Bryant, Jaku, Coward. Definitely not a reach at 9.

[TheGeneral99]

I actually think CMB was the best player on the draft board we could choose from... not sure there are so many of you upset.

I think we all know hes talented and skilled i think the people that are upset are more upset about the fit than his talent....He operates the same spots on the court as our "Franchise player" And plays the exact same position as him....Can't shoot the ball as of today....Its obvious thats why some are confused and also some people just don't watch footage of college ball and go off mock drafts...

But i think the people who watched him and also have concerns question his fit with the team since hes a non shooting undersized big who can't play C to fit with Barnes...If you play Barnes/CMB together you are giving up alot of size which teams will take advantage of .....With this current team i think CMB is a career bench player....

Only way you get the best out of CMB is if you reconstruct the team with players that fit his style of play more.....Need 2 guards that are lethal 3 point shooters and a 3&D stretch big....Ingram is a fine fit, Quickley as well...Outside of that you have Barrett/Barnes/Yak/Shead/Mogbo who are not a great fit ....Thats 6 players on the roster who are not great 3pt shooters...

Personally ithink CMB is good just yes question how he is going to fit long term unless a shake up happens roster wise.

While he fits operates in the same spots as Barnes, he's not going to be expected to be a starter for his first couple years...but if he is an effective player off the bench that can fit with shooters like Gradey and Walters...that would be great.

I would think of CMB kind of like a stronger more refined version of Siakam in his first couple seasons...very high motor, hustle player, great defensively, soft hands, and be that bench spark plug that can fit in any line up. Siakam didn't have any plays run for him until his 3rd season, he was mainly a plug in motor high motor player.

We have also seen RJ in a lot of trade talks...it could be that this makes him more expendable.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[Tripod]

Remember, we just watched OKC WILLINGLY sit Chet and Hart. to go extra small and have JWill at C.

You don't "have" to have a certain lineup to be successful. Having options is a good thing.

In saying that, we also know they want another C. Let's see what they do to get that...draft at 39, an undrafted guy, a trade, or signing.

Our scouting group has EARNED the right to trust them.

[rapsincr]

I like him as a prospect. Based on his interviews he seems like a great dude as well. He's going to fit the vibes of this team 100%. I don't see All-star in his future but I see a guy who's going to have a solid 10+ year career as a high-level role player.

He's going to play the 4/5 early in his career because he can't shoot yet. So does our front court rotation look like:

Barnes/CMB
Jak/JM

Zero spacing there which is tough. Unless JM or Barnes comes back with a 3 in their bag it's going to be interesting.

IQ/Shead
RB/GD
BI/JW
SB/CMB
JP/JM

Would love a better back up C option and an upgrade at the 2. But this team if healthy isn't looking horrible.

IF he develops a shot i personally think his ceiling is much higher than that

[Clutch0z24]

People are taking CMB's reaction the wrong way. He literally smiled right after his f bomb. These kids are having their dreams come true in the moment. I'm sure all of us when our dreams happen will not be thinking about nuances. It's going to be expressing your emotions of disbelief. You're going to curse lol. Either way I'm excited to have a rugged forward on the squad who can dribble, pass and has some shooting touch in the midrange. Yes, stretching his jumpshot to the 3 point line will be important, but I'm not worried about that right now. He's already stated that he's working on his mechanic and building it out. I'm excited to see him and Scottie terrorize on defense though.

Thing is ....No one will ever know what he was truely feeling....Just like you and people reading his reaction was disbelief as if you know that is a fact....Is the same thing you are getting mad at from people who read it that he looked genuinly upset....No one will know but him....And everyone has the right to interpret the way they interpret it....

Alot of people thought his reaction was upset/disappointment, Some think it was shock/disbelief....We will never know the real answer so trying to also say for sure you know his true reaction is just as bad as the people you are saying are taking his reaction the wrong way.

[MiamiSPX]

Our first championship was built by accumulating talent even where there were redundancies and then trading from surplus to upgrade the roster.

We had JV but drafted Poeltl
We had Demar and Terrence Ross but drafted/acquired Norm
We had Lowry and Vasquez but drafted Delon and signed Fred as UDFA
We had 2-Pat but drafted Siakam

Drafting Delon allowed us to move Vasquez for picks that would become Norm and OG
Norm allowed us to trade Ross for Ibaka.
Poeltl and Demar were traded for Kawhi
Fred allowed us to move Delon with JV for Gasol

When the time is right the redundancies will be dealt with. Who knows, maybe CMB eventually makes Scottie a trade piece for a star or vice versa.

I am not sure why some people are so concerned with "fit" on a team that has won 55 games the last 2 seasons, and only has Barnes and IQ signed beyond the '26-'27 season. And if reports are true, they have no problem moving IQ. It's also June 26th and we have no idea how the team will look come opening night. As things currently stand, I think there has to be a consolidation move.

Fit doesn't mater when we are still in the talent accumulation phase, which Boddy even said last night. Fit only matters when you have players whose place is cemented on your team, which I don't even think Barnes is anymore.

[djsunyc]

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[WuTang_CMB]

first play speaks to his defensive versatility

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[MoneyBall]

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Haha sweet, shades of Thad Young. Hopefully this doesn't mean barking at Scottie.