Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested

[inhabitMiami]

Herro is a pipe dream.

I would look to flip Robinson in a three team deal.

I don't think so. I think they'll give Herro if we stick to our guns man.

Don't want Robinson. There actually isn't as big a market for him as it looks and if we're going to pay someone $20M per this offseason, we'd be much better off giving that money to Norm.

The difference is that Robinson is a RFA with a minor cap hold. You can sign someone then go over the cap to keep Robinson, which is attractive to Raps and other teams (especially ones that look to be capped out).

[Ackshun]

https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news/toronto-raptors-kyle-lowry-possible-trade-los-angeles-lakers

[Rapsfan07]

Herro is a pipe dream.

I would look to flip Robinson in a three team deal.

Precious, Nunn, Kelly and Ariza makes most sense and a FRP whenever Miami can throw one. Herro we will never get. It is Riley we are talking about.

I'm not doing that for Lowry. At that point, I'll take the Philly package.

Nunn is going to need to be re-signed this offseason, same as Norm and Norm is the better player. Olynyk and Ariza are expirings. So really all we're getting is Precious?

No thanks. Maxey/Thybulle and 1st is better than that.

[TR50]

Totally just daydreaming here, but Lowry was down, I would move him to the Spurs for Keldon Johnson, Lonnie Walker, Jakub Poeltl and a 1st

I wonder if we would be able to get that.

[Rapsfan07]

Herro is a pipe dream.

I would look to flip Robinson in a three team deal.

I don't think so. I think they'll give Herro if we stick to our guns man.

Don't want Robinson. There actually isn't as big a market for him as it looks and if we're going to pay someone $20M per this offseason, we'd be much better off giving that money to Norm.

The difference is that Robinson is a RFA with a minor cap hold. You can sign someone then go over the cap to keep Robinson, which is attractive to Raps and other teams (especially ones that look to be capped out).

Im not sure that's really going to matter if at the end of the day we're going to give the inferior player (Robinson) the same contract that the superior player (Powell) is worth. Is the player we're going to sign in free agency enough to make up the difference between Robinson and Norm?

I highly, highly doubt that.

[Klayforspicy]

Zache Lowe and Rachel Nichols hyping up Norm and Lowry value on ESPN, crazy lol

ESPN should have known better to let the non-biased guys lead a Raps segment

[inhabitMiami]

I don't think so. I think they'll give Herro if we stick to our guns man.

Don't want Robinson. There actually isn't as big a market for him as it looks and if we're going to pay someone $20M per this offseason, we'd be much better off giving that money to Norm.

The difference is that Robinson is a RFA with a minor cap hold. You can sign someone then go over the cap to keep Robinson, which is attractive to Raps and other teams (especially ones that look to be capped out).

Im not sure that's really going to matter if at the end of the day we're going to give the inferior player (Robinson) the same contract that the superior player (Powell) is worth. Is the player we're going to sign in free agency enough to make up the difference between Robinson and Norm?

I highly, highly doubt that.

What I'm getting at is that if you wanted to, you could keep Norm AND Duncan if that's what you wanted (or sign someone other than Norm) -- or Duncan can be rerouted to another team for a pick.

[sogood]

Totally just daydreaming here, but Lowry was down, I would move him to the Spurs for Keldon Johnson, Lonnie Walker, Jakub Poeltl and a 1st

I wonder if we would be able to get that.

A 35 year old expiring point guard doesn't have that type of value.

[Raptors Realtor]

Zache Lowe and Rachel Nichols hyping up Norm and Lowry value on ESPN, crazy lol

Can you provide a quick summary?

[Rapsfan07]

Totally just daydreaming here, but Lowry was down, I would move him to the Spurs for Keldon Johnson, Lonnie Walker, Jakub Poeltl and a 1st

I wonder if we would be able to get that.

Doubt it. Spurs are pretty much where we are too in terms of team trajectory.

Expiring allstars, young players and trying to re-tool/rebuild. I don't think we're the best trading partners.

[Klayforspicy]

Zache Lowe and Rachel Nichols hyping up Norm and Lowry value on ESPN, crazy lol

Can you provide a quick summary?

- basically just saying its a bidding war between contenders for Lowry

- The whole league loves Norm, Raps just sitting back and waiting for calls

[Skeezo]

The difference is that Robinson is a RFA with a minor cap hold. You can sign someone then go over the cap to keep Robinson, which is attractive to Raps and other teams (especially ones that look to be capped out).

Im not sure that's really going to matter if at the end of the day we're going to give the inferior player (Robinson) the same contract that the superior player (Powell) is worth. Is the player we're going to sign in free agency enough to make up the difference between Robinson and Norm?

I highly, highly doubt that.

What I'm getting at is that if you wanted to, you could keep Norm AND Duncan if that's what you wanted (or sign someone other than Norm) -- or Duncan can be rerouted to another team for a pick.

The rerouting is on Miami to make it happen now... If Riley doesn't want to give-up Herro, he needs to find a third team to take on some part of D.Robinson, Dragic, and/or Olynk for draft picks and/or a greater-controllable prospect.

[Zeno]

Totally just daydreaming here, but Lowry was down, I would move him to the Spurs for Keldon Johnson, Lonnie Walker, Jakub Poeltl and a 1st

I wonder if we would be able to get that.

Doubt it. Spurs are pretty much where we are too in terms of team trajectory.

Expiring allstars, young players and trying to re-tool/rebuild. I don't think we're the best trading partners.

The best I think you could do with the Spurs is Lowry, Baynes for Dejonte Murray, Aldridge and maybe a heavily protected 1st. Maybe

[pingpongrac]

Totally just daydreaming here, but Lowry was down, I would move him to the Spurs for Keldon Johnson, Lonnie Walker, Jakub Poeltl and a 1st

I wonder if we would be able to get that.

A 35 year old expiring point guard doesn't have that type of value.

Maybe for a team that is already a contender or on the brink and they need that boost, but not for a team like the Spurs that has very little chance of winning a round even with Lowry.

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[mtcan]

Im not sure that's really going to matter if at the end of the day we're going to give the inferior player (Robinson) the same contract that the superior player (Powell) is worth. Is the player we're going to sign in free agency enough to make up the difference between Robinson and Norm?

I highly, highly doubt that.

What I'm getting at is that if you wanted to, you could keep Norm AND Duncan if that's what you wanted (or sign someone other than Norm) -- or Duncan can be rerouted to another team for a pick.

The rerouting is on Miami to make it happen now... If Riley doesn't want to give-up Herro, he needs to find a third team to take on some part of D.Robinson, Dragic, and/or Olynk for draft picks and/or a greater-controllable prospect.

I think the point is...we will take on the Olynyks and Dragics...the old guys with expiring contracts and I hope we don't get saddled with the restricted free agents to be.

I personally would take Dragic and offer him up to the Lakers/Clippers and see if they wouldn't want a really good point guard (though not as good as Lowry)...and see if you can milk them for an expiring contract and pick/prospect (not many of those...I'm aware...)...

[metafisical]

Zache Lowe and Rachel Nichols hyping up Norm and Lowry value on ESPN, crazy lol

Can you provide a quick summary?

- basically just saying its a bidding war between contenders for Lowry

- The whole league loves Norm, Raps just sitting back and waiting for calls

I don't know if Lowe and Nichols has the inside scoop, but I hope they are right. I want Masai and Webster to sit back and let the other GMs unsustainably outbid each other. Eventually, they need to pull the trigger though.

[C_Money]

Zache Lowe and Rachel Nichols hyping up Norm and Lowry value on ESPN, crazy lol

ESPN should have known better to let the non-biased guys lead a Raps segment

Lol where was this ESPN hype when they were actually on the team? I thought it was just Kawhi and a bunch of scrubs.

[TR50]

Totally just daydreaming here, but Lowry was down, I would move him to the Spurs for Keldon Johnson, Lonnie Walker, Jakub Poeltl and a 1st

I wonder if we would be able to get that.

Doubt it. Spurs are pretty much where we are too in terms of team trajectory.

Expiring allstars, young players and trying to re-tool/rebuild. I don't think we're the best trading partners.

The best I think you could do with the Spurs is Lowry, Baynes for Dejonte Murray, Aldridge and maybe a heavily protected 1st. Maybe

I would do that pretty quickly.

[Rapsfan07]

Doubt it. Spurs are pretty much where we are too in terms of team trajectory.

Expiring allstars, young players and trying to re-tool/rebuild. I don't think we're the best trading partners.

The best I think you could do with the Spurs is Lowry, Baynes for Dejonte Murray, Aldridge and maybe a heavily protected 1st. Maybe

I would do that pretty quickly.

Yep. this is a done deal for me as well. Don't see how it makes sense for them but I mean hey lol

[BramptonYute]

Herro is a pipe dream.

I would look to flip Robinson in a three team deal.

I don't think so. I think they'll give Herro if we stick to our guns man.

Don't want Robinson. There actually isn't as big a market for him as it looks and if we're going to pay someone $20M per this offseason, we'd be much better off giving that money to Norm.

Herro would be moved in a deal for a guy like Beal, not Lowry.