Tank World Order (7.0)

[DelAbbot]

this is how I feel right now

[720]

Man’s are mad at me because Freddy Allstar got locked up by 35 year old Wesley Matthews and other bucks role players (17 points on 17 shots ).

[pingpongrac]

And here he goes generalizing a whole group of people just because they aren't onboard with his vision of this team, which is a full tank. It's hilarious because he actually believes everything he says lmao

His posts keep getting more and more ridiculous as the season goes along. It's almost entertaining how wrong someone can be about everything, like calling FVV "TrashVleet" in the first few months then moving on to calling him a role player that only stat pads against lottery teams lately.

[Psubs]

well Hardy and Baldwin are falling fast outside the lottery

They're falling for a reason they are not winning players. Baldwin has been so bad lately he shouldn't even come out. Duren against othe bigs can barely get rebounds and hardy is a straight chucker. I wouldnt touch any of those guys

True, Hardy is def not a raptors kind of guy and I’ve never been super crazy about Duren. Baldwin, is more intriguing. His height, creation ability and supposed shooting talent (I say supposed since he has been so hot and cold in college, mostly cold so far). I’m gonna attribute that to that team basically asking him to be a one man army which is a miscast imo.

Baldwin is like a poor man's Jaden McDaniels right now.

[720]

They're falling for a reason they are not winning players. Baldwin has been so bad lately he shouldn't even come out. Duren against othe bigs can barely get rebounds and hardy is a straight chucker. I wouldnt touch any of those guys

True, Hardy is def not a raptors kind of guy and I’ve never been super crazy about Duren. Baldwin, is more intriguing. His height, creation ability and supposed shooting talent (I say supposed since he has been so hot and cold in college, mostly cold so far). I’m gonna attribute that to that team basically asking him to be a one man army which is a miscast imo.

Baldwin is like a poor man's Jaden McDaniels right now.

He would be nowhere near the top 20 if he wasn’t such a highly touted high school player I agree.

[720]

And here he goes generalizing a whole group of people just because they aren't onboard with his vision of this team, which is a full tank. It's hilarious because he actually believes everything he says lmao

His posts keep getting more and more ridiculous as the season goes along. It's almost entertaining how wrong someone can be about everything, like calling FVV "TrashVleet" in the first few months then moving on to calling him a role player that only stat pads against lottery teams lately.

Are you talking about me? Because I didn’t say that, smh the level of defamation from Fred fanboys.

[beanbag]

Team Mediocre cheer for losses if anything. Since you guys love mediocrity.

Except for that whole winning a championship part. But I suppose that is not important.

That’s not team mediocre’s goal. The goal for team mediocre is to be a perpetual 6-8 seed team with no upside and prop up B level players (Fred) like they’re actual top 10-15 players.

Team Mediocre wouldn’t have traded Demar for Kawhi. They would have mentioned the risks involved (injuries, asking to go to LA), the loyalty Demar showed, the fact that Lebron went west, etc. Masai made a winning move, not a mediocre one.

He also didn’t settle for mediocrity last year #PlayInForWhat!?

Be serious.

[Johnny Bball]

Except for that whole winning a championship part. But I suppose that is not important.

That’s not team mediocre’s goal. The goal for team mediocre is to be a perpetual 6-8 seed team with no upside and prop up B level players (Fred) like they’re actual top 10-15 players.

Team Mediocre wouldn’t have traded Demar for Kawhi. They would have mentioned the risks involved (injuries, asking to go to LA), the loyalty Demar showed, the fact that Lebron went west, etc. Masai made a winning move, not a mediocre one.

I swear to God this dude is just making up **** as he goes. Can we have something like a "fact check" option next to posts where if enough people click on it, it gets marked as "misinformation"?

None of what he's saying here is true. Somehow this guy thinks he knows exactly what everyone wants and is thinking. We have the youngest team in the league with tons of development this season. We are being competitive and developing. That's what we care about. Stop making up crap.

The Demar trade was perfectly fine. Any sane individual could tell the team had capped out with that current rendition of the roster and they needed a superstar.

Quit spreading lies.

When all you do is take Ls, you have to invent arguments with non-existent people to get Ws.

[CanadaB-Ball]

Man’s are mad at me because Freddy Allstar got locked up by 35 year old Wesley Matthews and other bucks role players (17 points on 17 shots ).

You can be pro-tank without being oblivious to a player’s worth.

[Yeezus_]

And here he goes generalizing a whole group of people just because they aren't onboard with his vision of this team, which is a full tank. It's hilarious because he actually believes everything he says lmao

His posts keep getting more and more ridiculous as the season goes along. It's almost entertaining how wrong someone can be about everything, like calling FVV "TrashVleet" in the first few months then moving on to calling him a role player that only stat pads against lottery teams lately.

He just moves the goal posts when it doesn't fit his narrative. Truly embarrassing.

[pingpongrac]

And here he goes generalizing a whole group of people just because they aren't onboard with his vision of this team, which is a full tank. It's hilarious because he actually believes everything he says lmao

His posts keep getting more and more ridiculous as the season goes along. It's almost entertaining how wrong someone can be about everything, like calling FVV "TrashVleet" in the first few months then moving on to calling him a role player that only stat pads against lottery teams lately.

Are you talking about me? Because I didn’t say that, smh the level of defamation from Fred fanboys.

You literally claimed that FVV was stat-padding against G-League and bench players just 3 or 4 days ago IN THIS THREAD (pages 29+30) and in numerous other threads you make comments about FVV having bad games whenever he plays good teams (which is false). You're so full of it lol.

[720]

Man’s are mad at me because Freddy Allstar got locked up by 35 year old Wesley Matthews and other bucks role players (17 points on 17 shots ).

You can be pro-tank without being oblivious to a player’s worth.

This has nothing to do with TWO.

Freddy Allstar isn’t a first or second option player on any serious team. The man freezes up when you put length in front of him and pressure him on pick and rolls. Any competent team will lock him up in the playoffs. But here we are giving him 25-28 percent of the usage on the team and playing him 40 plus minutes a game for some meaningless wins and the inevitable first round exit.

I know a lot of you want to convince yourself that he’s some star but he’s just a guy that takes 18+ shots on a mediocre team and pads his raw numbers albeit usually efficiently.

[720]

His posts keep getting more and more ridiculous as the season goes along. It's almost entertaining how wrong someone can be about everything, like calling FVV "TrashVleet" in the first few months then moving on to calling him a role player that only stat pads against lottery teams lately.

Are you talking about me? Because I didn’t say that, smh the level of defamation from Fred fanboys.

You literally claimed that FVV was stat-padding against G-League and bench players just 3 or 4 days ago IN THIS THREAD (pages 29+30) and in numerous other threads you make comments about FVV having bad games whenever he plays good teams (which is false). You're so full of it lol.

Where did I say he ‘only stat pads against lottery teams’? It’s okay to hate on me because I’m criticizing your golden midget but no need to make stuff up.

[Ref_from_hell]

Interesting, being the youngest team in the league and winning games like tonight are "meaningless" because Scottie isn't dominating usage. Nick and Masai should hire you as a development coach. You could give them tips on how to maximize Scotties growth. You clearly know better than them. All of our core players have made significant strides this season but again, meaningless. Prefer them be terrible and not make any significant strides so we can lose more games!

[pingpongrac]

Are you talking about me? Because I didn’t say that, smh the level of defamation from Fred fanboys.

You literally claimed that FVV was stat-padding against G-League and bench players just 3 or 4 days ago IN THIS THREAD (pages 29+30) and in numerous other threads you make comments about FVV having bad games whenever he plays good teams (which is false). You're so full of it lol.

Where did I say he ‘only stat pads against lottery teams’? It’s okay to hate on me because I’m criticizing your golden midget but no need to make stuff up.

"[FVV]only takes 18+ shots against depleted teams"

"[FVV] better be efficient when playing against G-Leaguers"

"[FVV] clearly saw weak G-League replacement players/bench players and took his shot attempts to another level during this stretch to maximize his numbers"

"Fred stat padding vs weak teams means nothing"

Those are all comments you made in this thread alone 3 nights ago. I could easily find others in GT/PG threads, but there is no point wasting time on replying to you because you just move the goalposts and never admit you are wrong when you're caught in a lie.

[720]

You literally claimed that FVV was stat-padding against G-League and bench players just 3 or 4 days ago IN THIS THREAD (pages 29+30) and in numerous other threads you make comments about FVV having bad games whenever he plays good teams (which is false). You're so full of it lol.

Where did I say he ‘only stat pads against lottery teams’? It’s okay to hate on me because I’m criticizing your golden midget but no need to make stuff up.

"[FVV]only takes 18+ shots against depleted teams"

"[FVV] better be efficient when playing against G-Leaguers"

"[FVV] clearly saw weak G-League replacement players/bench players and took his shot attempts to another level during this stretch to maximize his numbers"

"Fred stat padding vs weak teams means nothing"

Those are all comments you made in this very thread 3 nights ago. I could easily find others in GT/PG threads, but there is no point wasting time on replying to you because you just move the goalposts and never admit you are wrong when you're caught in a lie.

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In any of those comments, do I say he only stat pads against lottery teams like you claimed? Wasted your time for no reason.

[Johnny Bball]

Man’s are mad at me because Freddy Allstar got locked up by 35 year old Wesley Matthews and other bucks role players (17 points on 17 shots ).

You can be pro-tank without being oblivious to a player’s worth.

Or oblivious to the truth.

[sycammer]

Enough with the tank…why would fans want to go the draft again, more helpful being in the playoffs & then trading / signing free agents to build a good team

[Coco Costanza]

Enough with the tank…why would fans want to go the draft again

Because there's a chance we can get another talented young player like Scottie Barnes. Because you don't get Barnes in the first place if you're in the playoffs.

Because Toronto has historically not been a spot thats draw free agents. Because trading for another star is likely going to require trading more than one of our best players, possible making us worse in the long term.

[bballsparkin]

I'm all for a good ole tank when the stars align. Got to roll with the punches though. Like water.



Tanking definitely works. When the timing works. Sometimes playoffs is alright too. Ignoring the play-in, right now it would be the Raps #8 vs Bulls #1. Hell ya, bring it. DeMar playing in Tdot on another team that's good. That's good fun.

The team is rebuilding and adding assets. The FO has been patient and not rushed for the sake of making moves. I'm cool with that.

Love him or hate him, FVV is playing well and is a good trade chip. Also worth keeping. I can say the same for Pascal, OG, GTjr and especially Barnes.

This thread reads like reality tv sometimes. Both sides.