2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

[anotherhomer]

I don't see the same starting core working out next season. Too many egos, too many mouths to feed on O. You risk either creating a lot of tension if the top guys this year are bumped down the totem pole due to Scottie, Trent, or Precious getting way better, or you risk having the exact same setup with Scottie being a 5th option despite becoming a better player.

We're in a good situation where Pascal, Fred, OG, and even GTJ are all good trade chips right now. See what you can get for each or a combination of the available 4, and evaluate. You could go the disgruntled star consolidation route, or you could go the elite young prospect route and give the 1st option reigns to one of Fred or Pascal and let them steer the ship for a couple years with some scrappy playoff experience for the lads while Scottie and whoever evolve.

i trust mgmt can keep everyone happy for one more year....

[anotherhomer]

I don't see the same starting core working out next season. Too many egos, too many mouths to feed on O. You risk either creating a lot of tension if the top guys this year are bumped down the totem pole due to Scottie, Trent, or Precious getting way better, or you risk having the exact same setup with Scottie being a 5th option despite becoming a better player.

We're in a good situation where Pascal, Fred, OG, and even GTJ are all good trade chips right now. See what you can get for each or a combination of the available 4, and evaluate. You could go the disgruntled star consolidation route, or you could go the elite young prospect route and give the 1st option reigns to one of Fred or Pascal and let them steer the ship for a couple years with some scrappy playoff experience for the lads while Scottie and whoever evolve.

What's interesting is....would you guys theoretically trade Barnes for Edwards Anthony?

huh ?? Minny would never trade Ant Man for Barnes lol

that thought occured to me...

i know ppl are excited about barnes, but i think there's other younger players who fit in Toronto better but other teams wouldn't do the trade

that said, i would do the Edward Anthony trade tho

[HumbleRen]

What's interesting is....would you guys theoretically trade Barnes for Edwards Anthony?

huh ?? Minny would never trade Ant Man for Barnes lol

that thought occured to me...

i know ppl are excited about barnes, but i think there's other younger players who fit in Toronto better but other teams wouldn't do the trade

that said, i would do the Edward Anthony trade tho

I think Barnes fits perfectly but I personally think Ant Man has a higher ceiling. I don't see either team doing that trade though.

[YogurtProducer]

I would love Prince here

We have too many forwards ready with OG, Pascal, and Scottie plus Boucher, Thad, and possibly Champaine getting more minutes. Back up guard and a bigger C are more pressing IMO

honestly, i see them keeping Thad and swapping Boucher for a real center

I don’t know. Boucher was really damn good down the stretch here. I think Precious/Thad/Boucher can co-exist off the bench as they all have different strengths we can use. We need to add shooters alongside them though that we can pick and play with.

When teams wanna go zone, we gotta be able to throw 4 shooters at ek. Precious being a 35-40% shooter helps, but another one or two would be huge.

[Bruin]

I don't see the same starting core working out next season. Too many egos, too many mouths to feed on O. You risk either creating a lot of tension if the top guys this year are bumped down the totem pole due to Scottie, Trent, or Precious getting way better, or you risk having the exact same setup with Scottie being a 5th option despite becoming a better player.

We're in a good situation where Pascal, Fred, OG, and even GTJ are all good trade chips right now. See what you can get for each or a combination of the available 4, and evaluate. You could go the disgruntled star consolidation route, or you could go the elite young prospect route and give the 1st option reigns to one of Fred or Pascal and let them steer the ship for a couple years with some scrappy playoff experience for the lads while Scottie and whoever evolve.

What's interesting is....would you guys theoretically trade Barnes for Edwards Anthony?

huh ?? Minny would never trade Ant Man for Barnes lol

I don’t think I’d trade Barnes for him myself tho. Barnes is in the Giannis/Kawhi mold vs Ant who is in the PG/Mitchell mold imo. I really like Ant a lot but I dont see his ceiling being as elite as Barnes

[Mehar]

Both Fred and Trent will opt out of their contracts next summer. If you are not planning to pay them the asking price, it is absolutely worth to consolidate them for a disgruntled star.

Sure,
If you are not planning to pay them then you should most certainly trade them as soon as possible.
I am just not entirely sure Masai and Co aren't willing to pay them.

You are almost certainly right.

They will get paid by Toronto.

I do not like the idea of paying 30-35 million a year on a long-term contract for a 6 foot tall undersized Shooting Guard like FVV, who also has has been banged up the last couple of years with injuries. I would package both Trent and FVV, and make a run at a guy like Rudy Gobert. Utah wants to clear his contract from the books, and would be willing to take both FVV and Trent, who would both opt out next year. The salaries match also. Undersized 6 foot 7.5 inch Centres like Birch and Precious can only take you so far, when you run into a 7 foot and 280 Pound Centre like Embiid. Gobert would help this team to provide a legitimate Starting Centre next to Barnes and Siakam.

[HumbleRen]

What's interesting is....would you guys theoretically trade Barnes for Edwards Anthony?

huh ?? Minny would never trade Ant Man for Barnes lol

I don’t think I’d trade Barnes for him myself tho. Barnes is in the Giannis/Kawhi mold vs Ant who is in the PG/Mitchell mold imo. I really like Ant a lot but I dont see his ceiling being as elite as Barnes

I just prefer explosiveness and size that Antman has. If Barnes was more athletic, i’d be right with you.

Can’t go wrong with either of them.

[LoveMyRaps]

Terry Rozier is a name to monitor.

Would be a solid addition to the bench.

[h4rrison]

We're pretty much capped out right? Would love to see Rubio on this team.

[h4rrison]

Would you do Siakam for Gobert?

[tdotrep2]

Would you do Siakam for Gobert?

lol what?

[Kingsway_fan]

Would you do Siakam for Gobert?

Huh? Yeah, let's trade our best player....

[h4rrison]

Would you do Siakam for Gobert?

lol what?

Would you? Lol

Frees up PF position for Barnes and makes our starting lineup more fluid across each position. I bet we'd win more games for sure but TBH I wouldn't trade Siakam unless we're getting a super star back

[tdotrep2]

Would you do Siakam for Gobert?

lol what?

Would you? Lol

Frees up PF position for Barnes and makes our starting lineup more fluid across each position. I bet we'd win more games for sure but TBH I wouldn't trade Siakam unless we're getting a super star back

hell no

[Jermaine OBosh]

Three teams trade

Lakers trade: Westbrook, Horton and 2 first round picks
Lakers get: FVV, GTJ

OKC trades: SGA and future 2nd round pick
OKC gets: Westbrook, 4 first round picks

Raptors trades: FVV, GTJ and future 2 first round picks
Raptors get: SGA, Horton and 2rd pick from OKC

What do you think?

[HumbleRen]

I know people have soured on Mitchell but I think this is the perfect time to buy low on him.

[Mehar]

Would you do Siakam for Gobert?

lol what?

Would you? Lol

Frees up PF position for Barnes and makes our starting lineup more fluid across each position. I bet we'd win more games for sure but TBH I wouldn't trade Siakam unless we're getting a super star back

The trade to make is FVV and Trent for Gobert. The salaries match also. I read two weeks ago that Utah would love to get guys who are in the last year of their deal in a trade package, so they can clear Gobert's salary from their books. Both FVV and Trent can opt out after next year. While Gobert can opt out after 3 more years if he chooses. A Gobert, Siakam and Barnes front line would be a very good one in the Eastern Conference. I am not a fan of paying 30 to 35 million to FVV, and around 25 million to Trent after next year on long-term deals. Those are the types of dollars they would expect from the Raptors.

[Ell Curry]

huh ?? Minny would never trade Ant Man for Barnes lol

I don’t think I’d trade Barnes for him myself tho. Barnes is in the Giannis/Kawhi mold vs Ant who is in the PG/Mitchell mold imo. I really like Ant a lot but I dont see his ceiling being as elite as Barnes

I just prefer explosiveness and size that Antman has. If Barnes was more athletic, i’d be right with you.

Can’t go wrong with either of them.

It is an interesting idea on paper even though I don't think either team would risk it. And Barnes' intangibles seem better. Just can't see him wanting out if we're competitive and he just screams winner (literally at times). But Towns and Russell could desperately use a connecter and defender like Barnes and VanVleet-Trent-Edwards-OG-Siakam-Thad-Boucher-Precious is really nicely balanced 8 man rotation.

[Ell Curry]

I know people have soured on Mitchell but I think this is the perfect time to buy low on him.

I just have zero idea how to evaluate:

1. If he'll eventually figure out how (or that he wants) to play defence (he has the physical tools unlike a Trae Young)
2. If he'd be more efficient without Gobert clogging the paint (or if Gobert's incredible screen assists numbers actually help him) and instead Precious and OG at the 5 (when we don't play Embiid or another top center) spacing it more
3. How he'd do full time without a PG (they've had Rubio and Conley his whole career I believe. Though they've both missed time I think so maybe those numbers are actually sort of findable in a small sample size?)
4. Is him wanting out of Utah totally reasonable or a bad sign long-term to him being drama-free like the guys we'd be moving for him.
5. What the price will be. I can't imagine Utah doing the deal without OG since they need OG more than any other single team in the league maybe. I like OG.

[Scottie4Bro]

I know people have soured on Mitchell but I think this is the perfect time to buy low on him.

I'd take a chance on him if he actually played defense.

Problem is, he plays no defense, might be a locker room cancer, and is a playoff choker. He's clearly not a #1 option type guy.