Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 5

[Appostis]

Like who?

SGA would be one of the few that fit that description.

I know, and that's the only person people are usually talking about, a 25 year old, top 10-15 player. Would you trade him for Donovan Mitchell? Jaylen Brown? Devin Booker? I know you wouldn't trade him for Zach Lavine... right?

I just have a hard time with people who are so quick to say that they would give up on a 21 year old 6'8 forward who has the potential of quarterbacking your offense and defense.

I'm not saying it makes sense just that it's a player that seems to fit his description.

[Reeko]

SGA would be one of the few that fit that description.

I know, and that's the only person people are usually talking about, a 25 year old, top 10-15 player. Would you trade him for Donovan Mitchell? Jaylen Brown? Devin Booker? I know you wouldn't trade him for Zach Lavine... right?

I just have a hard time with people who are so quick to say that they would give up on a 21 year old 6'8 forward who has the potential of quarterbacking your offense and defense.

I'm not saying it makes sense just that it's a player that seems to fit his description.

I know. I just feel like people try to be coy with that kind of statement when we all know they're likely just talking about one player in particular.

[YogurtProducer]

Like who?

SGA would be one of the few that fit that description.

I know, and that's the only person people are usually talking about, a 25 year old, top 10-15 player. Would you trade him for Donovan Mitchell? Jaylen Brown? Devin Booker? I know you wouldn't trade him for Zach Lavine... right?

I just have a hard time with people who are so quick to say that they would give up on a 21 year old 6'8 forward who has the potential of quarterbacking your offense and defense.

I’d be tempted for those 3 you listed, not Lavine.

FVV
Booker/Brown/Mitchell
OG
Siakam
Poellt

Would be a hell of a team. But with the salary cap I don’t even think we could make a deal for any of them without gutting the entire roster

[Reeko]

SGA would be one of the few that fit that description.

I know, and that's the only person people are usually talking about, a 25 year old, top 10-15 player. Would you trade him for Donovan Mitchell? Jaylen Brown? Devin Booker? I know you wouldn't trade him for Zach Lavine... right?

I just have a hard time with people who are so quick to say that they would give up on a 21 year old 6'8 forward who has the potential of quarterbacking your offense and defense.

I’d be tempted for those 3 you listed, not Lavine.

FVV
Booker/Brown/Mitchell
OG
Siakam
Poellt

Would be a hell of a team. But with the salary cap I don’t even think we could make a deal for any of them without gutting the entire roster

You’d have to package OG too and probably a pick if not 2.

[YogurtProducer]

I know, and that's the only person people are usually talking about, a 25 year old, top 10-15 player. Would you trade him for Donovan Mitchell? Jaylen Brown? Devin Booker? I know you wouldn't trade him for Zach Lavine... right?

I just have a hard time with people who are so quick to say that they would give up on a 21 year old 6'8 forward who has the potential of quarterbacking your offense and defense.

I’d be tempted for those 3 you listed, not Lavine.

FVV
Booker/Brown/Mitchell
OG
Siakam
Poellt

Would be a hell of a team. But with the salary cap I don’t even think we could make a deal for any of them without gutting the entire roster

You’d have to package OG too and probably a pick if not 2.

Yeah like I’d be out on that.

Theoretically like Boucher/Thad/Barnes is enough salary, so if you had the opportunity you’d take. But you probably wouldn’t have the opportunity

[DemHeavyHands]

Damn… it’s crazy.. people are ready to trade the best prospect we’ve had in a LOOONG time for 4 more years of the Fred and yak pick and roll

Is this pick and roll taking us to another title?? What am I missing here

[Los_29]

Damn… it’s crazy.. people are ready to trade the best prospect we’ve had in a LOOONG time for 4 more years of the Fred and yak pick and roll

Is this pick and roll taking us to another title?? What am I missing here

Where did you read this? The last page or so has been about trading Scottie for ALL-NBA talents in Booker/Jaylen/Mitchell/SGA.

[hype_2004]

Like who?

SGA would be one of the few that fit that description.

I know, and that's the only person people are usually talking about, a 25 year old, top 10-15 player. Would you trade him for Donovan Mitchell? Jaylen Brown? Devin Booker? I know you wouldn't trade him for Zach Lavine... right?

I just have a hard time with people who are so quick to say that they would give up on a 21 year old 6'8 forward who has the potential of quarterbacking your offense and defense.

I trust Masai more than some jerk off living in their mothers basement to make decisions for this team . If Masai thinks this team is best served dealing Scottie for that star SG then so be it.

[LoveMyRaps]

Scottie is an untouchable.

No way in hell would I trade him for Jaylen Brown LMAO and I'm a big Brown fan.

[Raps in 4]

SGA would be one of the few that fit that description.

I know, and that's the only person people are usually talking about, a 25 year old, top 10-15 player. Would you trade him for Donovan Mitchell? Jaylen Brown? Devin Booker? I know you wouldn't trade him for Zach Lavine... right?

I just have a hard time with people who are so quick to say that they would give up on a 21 year old 6'8 forward who has the potential of quarterbacking your offense and defense.

I’d be tempted for those 3 you listed, not Lavine.

FVV
Booker/Brown/Mitchell
OG
Siakam
Poellt

Would be a hell of a team. But with the salary cap I don’t even think we could make a deal for any of them without gutting the entire roster

That would be a second round exit team. Booker/Brown/Mitchell are all Robins. We'd still need that elusive 1A scorer to take us over the top. This team doesn't need more Siakams. It needs a Kawhi.

I'd rather take a gamble on Scottie and have him turn out to be a bust than trade him for one of those players.

[YogurtProducer]

I know, and that's the only person people are usually talking about, a 25 year old, top 10-15 player. Would you trade him for Donovan Mitchell? Jaylen Brown? Devin Booker? I know you wouldn't trade him for Zach Lavine... right?

I just have a hard time with people who are so quick to say that they would give up on a 21 year old 6'8 forward who has the potential of quarterbacking your offense and defense.

I’d be tempted for those 3 you listed, not Lavine.

FVV
Booker/Brown/Mitchell
OG
Siakam
Poellt

Would be a hell of a team. But with the salary cap I don’t even think we could make a deal for any of them without gutting the entire roster

That would be a second round exit team. Booker/Brown/Mitchell are all Robins. We'd still need that elusive 1A scorer to take us over the top. This team doesn't need more Siakams. It needs a Kawhi.

I'd rather take a gamble on Scottie and have him turn out to be a bust than trade him for one of those players.

Booker went to the finals as a #1 already my guy. The 2016 Raps went to the ECF with Demar as our #1 and he was worse than those 3.

[Reeko]

I’d be tempted for those 3 you listed, not Lavine.

FVV
Booker/Brown/Mitchell
OG
Siakam
Poellt

Would be a hell of a team. But with the salary cap I don’t even think we could make a deal for any of them without gutting the entire roster

That would be a second round exit team. Booker/Brown/Mitchell are all Robins. We'd still need that elusive 1A scorer to take us over the top. This team doesn't need more Siakams. It needs a Kawhi.

I'd rather take a gamble on Scottie and have him turn out to be a bust than trade him for one of those players.

Booker went to the finals as a #1 already my guy. The 2016 Raps went to the ECF with Demar as our #1 and he was worse than those 3.

Didn’t he get cooked by Luka the following year?

[Mikistan]

That would be a second round exit team. Booker/Brown/Mitchell are all Robins. We'd still need that elusive 1A scorer to take us over the top. This team doesn't need more Siakams. It needs a Kawhi.

I'd rather take a gamble on Scottie and have him turn out to be a bust than trade him for one of those players.

Booker went to the finals as a #1 already my guy. The 2016 Raps went to the ECF with Demar as our #1 and he was worse than those 3.

Didn’t he get cooked by Luka the following year?

Let's celebrate demar scoring 30 pts on 30 shots on game 7 against the heat to make the ECF too, he totally didn't get swept the next 2 years by worse versions of the same Cavs team. This is totally the same quality of eastern conference competition too

[Raps in 4]

I’d be tempted for those 3 you listed, not Lavine.

FVV
Booker/Brown/Mitchell
OG
Siakam
Poellt

Would be a hell of a team. But with the salary cap I don’t even think we could make a deal for any of them without gutting the entire roster

That would be a second round exit team. Booker/Brown/Mitchell are all Robins. We'd still need that elusive 1A scorer to take us over the top. This team doesn't need more Siakams. It needs a Kawhi.

I'd rather take a gamble on Scottie and have him turn out to be a bust than trade him for one of those players.

Booker went to the finals as a #1 already my guy. The 2016 Raps went to the ECF with Demar as our #1 and he was worse than those 3.

Booker was the second best player on that team. They also needed injuries to AD, Kawhi, and Murray (the best or second best player on every team they faced) just to get the finals.

[YogurtProducer]

Booker went to the finals as a #1 already my guy. The 2016 Raps went to the ECF with Demar as our #1 and he was worse than those 3.

Didn’t he get cooked by Luka the following year?

Let's celebrate demar scoring 30 pts on 30 shots on game 7 against the heat to make the ECF too, he totally didn't get swept the next 2 years by worse versions of the same Cavs team. This is totally the same quality of eastern conference competition too

I am not a Demar fan, but we often times seem to view this "you need a #1" in hindsight.

Dirk was "not good enough" until he won. I have a feeling a guy like Booker would be the same where he wins and suddenly he is viewed a top 10 player for the rest of his career.

He put up 27/5/5 in that playoff run

[YogurtProducer]

That would be a second round exit team. Booker/Brown/Mitchell are all Robins. We'd still need that elusive 1A scorer to take us over the top. This team doesn't need more Siakams. It needs a Kawhi.

I'd rather take a gamble on Scottie and have him turn out to be a bust than trade him for one of those players.

Booker went to the finals as a #1 already my guy. The 2016 Raps went to the ECF with Demar as our #1 and he was worse than those 3.

Booker was the second best player on that team. They also needed injuries to AD, Kawhi, and Murray (the best or second best player on every team they faced) just to get the finals.

AD, Kawhi, and Murray are always hurt - that is kind of just what you expect from guys like that.

There are injuries every single year. When we won we benefited form them, just like every champ does somewhere.

[Raps in 4]

Booker went to the finals as a #1 already my guy. The 2016 Raps went to the ECF with Demar as our #1 and he was worse than those 3.

Booker was the second best player on that team. They also needed injuries to AD, Kawhi, and Murray (the best or second best player on every team they faced) just to get the finals.

AD, Kawhi, and Murray are always hurt - that is kind of just what you expect from guys like that.

There are injuries every single year. When we won we benefited form them, just like every champ does somewhere.

We faced the Magic, Sixers, and Bucks at full strength.

The Suns needed injuries to the best or second best player on each team they faced in rounds 1-3 to get to the finals.

There is a huge difference there.

[YogurtProducer]

Booker was the second best player on that team. They also needed injuries to AD, Kawhi, and Murray (the best or second best player on every team they faced) just to get the finals.

AD, Kawhi, and Murray are always hurt - that is kind of just what you expect from guys like that.

There are injuries every single year. When we won we benefited form them, just like every champ does somewhere.

We faced the Magic, Sixers, and Bucks at full strength.

The Suns needed injuries to the best or second best player on each team they faced in rounds 1-3 to get to the finals.

There is a huge difference there.

They won 64 games (edit - **** me. That was the next year. They were actually 51-21 (a 58 win pace)) you act like they were a lower seed who snuck by better teams who happened to get hurt.

LAL - The series was 2-2 when AD when down - Phoenix was still likely going to win that one.
DEN - Murray got hurt with 23 games left to go in the season and they went 17-6 without him AND won the first round without him.
LAC - Kawhi was out, but again the Clippers won a playoff series without him. A
MIL - Why do you ignore they went to 6 in the finals with 28/4/4 from Booker? Including B2B 40 point games in game 4 and 5 losses? The Suns were +12 when Book played and -26 when he sat.

Give Booker and the Suns credit. They were the best team in the NBA that year and lost 3 close games to end those finals.

Also just got to LOL at slipping in the Magic like that series meant anything You are also conveniently forgetting that Embiid was sick/hurt in the 2nd round.

Embiid vs Raptors 2019

Game 2 - misses shootout with gastroenteritis and plays - goes 2/7 from the field
Game 4 - needed an IV to play, finished 2/7 from the field
Game 5 - upper respiratory infection

If Joel is healthy there is a REALLY good chance we lose that series.

[Mikistan]

Didn’t he get cooked by Luka the following year?

Let's celebrate demar scoring 30 pts on 30 shots on game 7 against the heat to make the ECF too, he totally didn't get swept the next 2 years by worse versions of the same Cavs team. This is totally the same quality of eastern conference competition too

I am not a Demar fan, but we often times seem to view this "you need a #1" in hindsight.

Dirk was "not good enough" until he won. I have a feeling a guy like Booker would be the same where he wins and suddenly he is viewed a top 10 player for the rest of his career.

He put up 27/5/5 in that playoff run

Say the ts percentage tho

[Los_29]

Mitchell/Booker/Jaylen aren't ideal 1st options especially Jaylen. Given how ineffective of a passer he is and how much he turns the ball over, I think it'd get pretty ugly with him as a 1st option. But from a talent standpoint, if Scottie is the main piece you're trading along with cap filler and picks (wouldn't trade a lot) then that is an excellent deal.

NBA is wide open right now. Inserting one of those guys into the starting lineup along with OG, Poeltl, Fred and Pascal would make this team contenders.

I wouldn't actively look to trade Scottie. He's going to be a great player in this league but if you can get an ALL-NBA caliber player then it's something you have to do. There is no guarantee Scottie becomes that kind of player.