Raptors coaching search - Part 2

[WuTang_CMB]

Goal should be to play like 2014 Spurs. I loved watching that team.
Ball movement all over and attack from everyone. Gotta be unpredictable with tons of actions, especially when you dont have a superstar. I think Raps have nailed their final 3 guys, will be happy with any of them

With increased parity and harsher cap, coaching will have greater emphasis especially in the playoffs.

I heard it positioned as coaching is maybe 2.5% of the equation influencing wins so not a huge factor in the regular season when talent usually wins out. But in the playoffs, when talent becomes much closer, that 2.5% becomes a much larger driver of success.

But having gone through Nurse, I think I’ve under appreciated how much setting a good culture, maintaining accountability, and instilling trust matters in building a team up to that contender status. It’s what worries me about a European coach but I trust Masai is probably going to make this an emphasis in any hire.

It's definitely important and it needs to be your constant. You add that with a real system on both ends, you just need players to execute. Raptors still need improved talent but culture and systems are non negotiable and Nurse failed at both this season

[OAKLEY_2]

Sergio can help but it's really hard to make our team look competent in the half court lol.

We're talking about 3 non shooters and only 2 guys having the ability to touch the paint with a live dribble.

Maybe he brings Teodosic and Belli with him. Belli traded by Colangelo for Julian FFFFn Wright.

[raptor jesus]

Guessing it's either:

1. Waiting for Sergio's season to end. Although poaching assistants from teams still playing in the playoffs is commonplace in the NBA, Sergio's case is different. He's the head coach where he's at, so him accepting the job could rock the boat much more than an NBA assistant.

2. They are waiting on a decision from Atkinson. Atkinson turned down Charlotte in large part because he was comfortable in the Bay Area and didn't want to move his family. So perhaps, he's still mulling it over.

[Kurtz]

Guessing it's either:

1. Waiting for Sergio's season to end. Although poaching assistants from teams still playing in the playoffs is commonplace in the NBA, Sergio's case is different. He's the head coach where he's at, so him accepting the job could rock the boat much more than an NBA assistant.

2. They are waiting on a decision from Atkinson. Atkinson turned down Charlotte in large part because he was comfortable in the Bay Area and didn't want to move his family. So perhaps, he's still mulling it over.

Yeah, it's interesting, because it does seem like everything is lining up towards Scariolo and it makes complete sense that they're just waiting for him to finish his season...and yet betting sites have Atkinson as the favourite to take over.

Off course if you're Kenny, and comfortable where you are...maybe you just wait for GSW to take that final shot at the chip next year, and then just take over as HC if/when Kerr retires from coaching and goes into broadcasting. I would guess Kenny would have a bigger appetite to stick around for a rebuild than Kerr.

[OAKLEY_2]

Guessing it's either:

1. Waiting for Sergio's season to end. Although poaching assistants from teams still playing in the playoffs is commonplace in the NBA, Sergio's case is different. He's the head coach where he's at, so him accepting the job could rock the boat much more than an NBA assistant.

2. They are waiting on a decision from Atkinson. Atkinson turned down Charlotte in large part because he was comfortable in the Bay Area and didn't want to move his family. So perhaps, he's still mulling it over.

Door number 1. Has anyone looked at Atkinson's won-loss record as HC?

[raptor jesus]

Guessing it's either:

1. Waiting for Sergio's season to end. Although poaching assistants from teams still playing in the playoffs is commonplace in the NBA, Sergio's case is different. He's the head coach where he's at, so him accepting the job could rock the boat much more than an NBA assistant.

2. They are waiting on a decision from Atkinson. Atkinson turned down Charlotte in large part because he was comfortable in the Bay Area and didn't want to move his family. So perhaps, he's still mulling it over.

Door number 1. Has anyone looked at Atkinson's won-loss record as HC?

Well, he coached one of the least talented rosters in the league in the aftermath of the Pierce/KG trade, and had them playing well above their talent level.

[LoveMyRaps]

Sergio can help but it's really hard to make our team look competent in the half court lol.

We're talking about 3 non shooters and only 2 guys having the ability to touch the paint with a live dribble.

Would be pretty sad if they give Sergio (or whoever is named our coach) this roster to deal with.

[HumbleRen]

Sergio can help but it's really hard to make our team look competent in the half court lol.

We're talking about 3 non shooters and only 2 guys having the ability to touch the paint with a live dribble.

Would be pretty sad if they give Sergio (or whoever is named our coach) this roster to deal with.

Setting him up for failure lol.

But maybe Masai and the FO just doesn’t care about how they perform in the playoffs. Maybe the goal is just simply winning 45-50 games and try to get lucky in the first round.

[HoopAndTheHarm]

Bucks are certainly creating an interesting staff. Griffin, with Stotts and now former Raps assistant and 905 head coach Patrick Mutombo along with Joe Punty.

[dTox]

Guessing it's either:

1. Waiting for Sergio's season to end. Although poaching assistants from teams still playing in the playoffs is commonplace in the NBA, Sergio's case is different. He's the head coach where he's at, so him accepting the job could rock the boat much more than an NBA assistant.

2. They are waiting on a decision from Atkinson. Atkinson turned down Charlotte in large part because he was comfortable in the Bay Area and didn't want to move his family. So perhaps, he's still mulling it over.

Door number 1. Has anyone looked at Atkinson's won-loss record as HC?

Have you seen the roster he was dealt with? And having to dig that team out of the perpetual lotto picks they were forfeiting to Boston and still make the playoffs. Kenny's team had beautiful motion offense even while having D'Angelo Russel as their starting PG

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[ATLTimekeeper]

Guessing it's either:

1. Waiting for Sergio's season to end. Although poaching assistants from teams still playing in the playoffs is commonplace in the NBA, Sergio's case is different. He's the head coach where he's at, so him accepting the job could rock the boat much more than an NBA assistant.

2. They are waiting on a decision from Atkinson. Atkinson turned down Charlotte in large part because he was comfortable in the Bay Area and didn't want to move his family. So perhaps, he's still mulling it over.

Door number 1. Has anyone looked at Atkinson's won-loss record as HC?

Have you seen the roster he was dealt with? And having to dig that team out of the perpetual lotto picks they were forfeiting to Boston and still make the playoffs. Kenny's team had beautiful motion offense even while having D'Angelo Russel as their starting PG

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Not sure what D'Angelo Russell has to do with that. He's an above average passing point guard. His flaws are that he's not an efficient scorer and he's inept defensively.

btw, here's the Orating rankings of those Atkinson teams: 29th, 22nd, 19th, fired. This isn't to disparage Atkinson's acumen, but his results were insignificant and overcelebrated here. For reference Nurse's lowest ORating ranking was 16th.

[HumbleRen]

Kenny is the most overrated "culture" coach in the league.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I wouldn't knock him for KD getting him fired. KD left easy rings in Golden State to stop playing a rigid system. Obviously ego management is a huge part of the job, but Kyrie and KD are weirdos by NBA superstar standards.

[dTox]

Door number 1. Has anyone looked at Atkinson's won-loss record as HC?

Have you seen the roster he was dealt with? And having to dig that team out of the perpetual lotto picks they were forfeiting to Boston and still make the playoffs. Kenny's team had beautiful motion offense even while having D'Angelo Russel as their starting PG

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Not sure what D'Angelo Russell has to do with that. He's an above average passing point guard. His flaws are that he's not an efficient scorer and he's inept defensively.

btw, here's the Orating rankings of those Atkinson teams: 29th, 22nd, 19th, fired. This isn't to disparage Atkinson's acumen, but his results were insignificant and overcelebrated here. For reference Nurse's lowest ORating ranking was 16th.

Starting Lineup in 2018:
J. Allen | J. Dudley | J. Harris | C. LeVert | D. Russell

Still managed to lead this team to finish 6th in the east, you can point to the efficiency as much as you want, there's no way to squeeze more juice out of that lineup.
Kenny's not my first option (prefer to go with Jodi), but its disingenuous of the Oakley_2 to point out the team's record given the lack of talent they had, his first 2 seasons had the roster of an expansion team.

Re: Russel, he had a career year under Kenny, and it's gone downhill since then, so I'd give him some kudos for making Russel somewhat effective, he has been an absolute disaster with the Wolves / Laker.

[tripa]

Not having a coach by draft day would be pretty dumb not gonna lie.

So dumb, in fact, that you can rest assured it won’t happen.

We’ll have a new coach by the end of this week.

~fart~

[God Squad]

Still waiting patiently.

[Syd-TK3]

Jordi dream is dead smh

[Ackshun]

Have you seen the roster he was dealt with? And having to dig that team out of the perpetual lotto picks they were forfeiting to Boston and still make the playoffs. Kenny's team had beautiful motion offense even while having D'Angelo Russel as their starting PG

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Not sure what D'Angelo Russell has to do with that. He's an above average passing point guard. His flaws are that he's not an efficient scorer and he's inept defensively.

btw, here's the Orating rankings of those Atkinson teams: 29th, 22nd, 19th, fired. This isn't to disparage Atkinson's acumen, but his results were insignificant and overcelebrated here. For reference Nurse's lowest ORating ranking was 16th.

Starting Lineup in 2018:
J. Allen | J. Dudley | J. Harris | C. LeVert | D. Russell

Still managed to lead this team to finish 6th in the east, you can point to the efficiency as much as you want, there's no way to squeeze more juice out of that lineup.
Kenny's not my first option (prefer to go with Jodi), but its disingenuous of the Oakley_2 to point out the team's record given the lack of talent they had, his first 2 seasons had the roster of an expansion team.

Re: Russel, he had a career year under Kenny, and it's gone downhill since then, so I'd give him some kudos for making Russel somewhat effective, he has been an absolute disaster with the Wolves / Laker.

Lineup looks pretty good to me, especially in a weaker East.

But Kenny is known to get the most out of his point guards, so there is that.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Starting Lineup in 2018:
J. Allen | J. Dudley | J. Harris | C. LeVert | D. Russell

Still managed to lead this team to finish 6th in the east, you can point to the efficiency as much as you want, there's no way to squeeze more juice out of that lineup.
Kenny's not my first option (prefer to go with Jodi), but its disingenuous of the Oakley_2 to point out the team's record given the lack of talent they had, his first 2 seasons had the roster of an expansion team.

Re: Russel, he had a career year under Kenny, and it's gone downhill since then, so I'd give him some kudos for making Russel somewhat effective, he has been an absolute disaster with the Wolves / Laker.

No Russell was better in Golden State and his numbers are pretty much the same since. This year with the Wolves/Lakers he averaged 20/8 per 36 with .605 TS. Far from a disaster. I brought him up because you singled him out as an impediment to Atkinson's offense. .500 records are nothing to tout. Teams that buy in and have no incentive to tank can achieve that with minimal talent.

[WuTang_CMB]

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The LBA has set the dates and television schedule for the 2022/2023 UnipolSai LBA Finals:

GAME 1, Friday, June 9, 2023
EA7 Emporio Armani Milano – Virtus Segafredo Bologna, 8:30 p.m. LOCAL Eleven Sports/DAZN – NOVE – Eurosport 2;

GAME 2 Sunday, June 11, 2023
EA7 Emporio Armani Milano – Virtus Segafredo Bologna, 6 p.m. Eleven Sports/DAZN – NOVE – Eurosport 2;

GAME 3, Wednesday, June 14, 2023
Virtus Segafredo Bologna – EA7 Emporio Armani Milano, 8:30 p.m. Eleven Sports/ DAZN – NOVE – Eurosport 2

GAME 4, Friday, June 16, 2023
Virtus Segafredo Bologna – EA7 Emporio Armani Milano, 8:30 p.m. Eleven Sports/DAZN – NOVE – Eurosport 2

Eventual GAME 5, Monday, June 19, 2023
EA7 Emporio Armani Milano – Virtus Segafredo Bologna, 8:30 p.m. Eleven Sports/DAZN – NOVE – Eurosport 2

Eventual GAME 6, Wednesday, June 21, 2023
Virtus Segafredo Bologna – EA7 Emporio Armani Milano 8:30 p.m. Eleven Sports/DAZN – NOVE – Eurosport 2

Eventual GAME 7, Friday, June 23, 2023
EA7 Emporio Armani Milano – Virtus Segafredo Bologna, 8:30 p.m. Eleven Sports/DAZN – NOVE – Eurosport 1