2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

[djsunyc]

ace bailey and jordan poole together? scary times!

[PhilBlackson]

Yeah I think Bailey is trying to push himself to BKN in partlicular (perhaps even hoping they'll do a trade up) or possibly WAS but he's VERY likely gonna end up in Utah because Ainge isn't the type of GM to get bullied but rather do the bullying. I think he takes him and tells him to put up or shut up.

While I do understand not wanting to end up being the next "Kuminga" in PHI where he becomes a 4th option (at best - McCain would likely outscore him as well) and that it would mess up his future money. I do worry about more so the level of arrogance of believing he must be THE focal point for a franchise drafting him which speaks to the most troubling thing about his game which is that he seems to think ANY shot he takes is a good shot...and in both cases like you can't tell him otherwise. That's THE problem which doesn't bode well for him at all moving forward.

There's a thin line between confidence and arrogance and this obv seems like the latter. Bailey really NEEDED a team like us, MIA or SAS to draft him to really get the best out of him aka give him an attitude correction/teach him the right way to play the game -- I won't say that he's gonna be a bust but now I do have little faith that he's gonna become a star, he'll likely become a Jalen Green of SFs. Both of the guys needed better influences earlier and around them ie/ people thought a lot of the same thing about Ant Edwards but he took the critcism, refined his game and became a star. Unfortunately that doesn't look like that's gonna be the path for Ace...

[djsunyc]

it could be bailey but he's just a kid. i would blame his reps unless like I said earlier, they are protecting him from having awful interviews and workouts.

[OakleyDokely]

The best thing for Ace would be going to a potentially good team in PHI, being the 4th/5th option on the court where he can learn and grow. Start making some open catch and shoot 3s, rebound, play some D and build from there.

The dude had a 53 TS% in college and he couldn't get Rutgers to the NCAA tournament, yet he thinks he's going to be a #1 guy in the NBA at 18-19. Either he's delusional or the people around him are. Either way, not a good sign.

[niQ]

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how does danny wolf compare to franz wagner?

Franz was an above average defender and he grew an inch. He's very dominant and can impose his will, but his 3pt shooting has regressed to under 30% the last 2 seasons, thus they needed to trade for Desmond Bane. Wolf compares more with a young Kelly Olynyk (drafted #13 despite mocked in the late teens if I recall). I guess Olynyk with worse 3pt shooting?

[WuTang_CMB]

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[djsunyc]

im going to go out on a limb and say the sixers take maluach at 3 or trade down to take him. (unless they trade up to 2). they need a legit center more than a wing. they have maxey + mccain and will pay grimes...not to mention paul george. you know embiid will miss at least 30 games next year.

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Morey isn't going to draft Ace imo. Morey is very analytics driven and Ace is the antithesis of analytics darling.

If they stay at 3, I think it will be Edgecombe.

Really, they should take Tre Johnson. Maxey, Tre, McCain is a nice trio even though small.

[WuTang_CMB]

Hot take but it wouldn't shock me one bit if these guys take Wolf #9

[PushDaRock]

it could be bailey but he's just a kid. i would blame his reps unless like I said earlier, they are protecting him from having awful interviews and workouts.

Just a bad look all around. If he needs to be "protected", then teams are wondering what he's hiding. This perception of him looking selfish now wanting to go to a team where he can jack up a lot of shots isn't helping either. He's not coming across as someone who cares about winning, going to Rutgers and going 15-17 already caused concerns there.

[OakleyDokely]

Morey isn't going to draft Ace imo. Morey is very analytics driven and Ace is the antithesis of analytics darling.

If they stay at 3, I think it will be Edgecombe.

Really, they should take Tre Johnson. Maxey, Tre, McCain is a nice trio even though small.

I think both Edgecombe and Tre work.

Edgecombe if they want more defense, Tre if they want more offensive punch. I like the Edgecombe fit with Maxey better though.

[Pointgod]

it could be bailey but he's just a kid. i would blame his reps unless like I said earlier, they are protecting him from having awful interviews and workouts.

He’s obviously getting bad advice, even if he’s trying to go to a particular team tanking your value is idiotic.

[OakleyDokely]

Dropping in the draft costs you a lot of money as well.

Pick #3: 50M
Pick #8: 31M

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The hype for this draft has fallen off a cliff really. Such a massive gap between Flagg and the rest and then another gap between Harper and the rest. Swapping one spot in the Top 5 is usually just 1 FRP at most, not 2.

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it could be bailey but he's just a kid. i would blame his reps unless like I said earlier, they are protecting him from having awful interviews and workouts.

He’s obviously getting bad advice, even if he’s trying to go to a particular team tanking your value is idiotic.

He's focused on his 2nd contract already instead of helping a team anyway he can.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Hot take but it wouldn't shock me one bit if these guys take Wolf #9

I don’t see it. The shock pick I can see is Demin. But at the same time, if Masai takes a 6’9” point guard he likes I’d become very excited.

[Jadoogar]

im going to go out on a limb and say the sixers take maluach at 3 or trade down to take him. (unless they trade up to 2). they need a legit center more than a wing. they have maxey + mccain and will pay grimes...not to mention paul george. you know embiid will miss at least 30 games next year.

you shouldn't draft a backup in the top 3.
Philly should take the highest upside player. Paul George and Embiid are cooked, basically sunk costs. Start playing for the future

[djsunyc]

im going to go out on a limb and say the sixers take maluach at 3 or trade down to take him. (unless they trade up to 2). they need a legit center more than a wing. they have maxey + mccain and will pay grimes...not to mention paul george. you know embiid will miss at least 30 games next year.

you shouldn't draft a backup in the top 3.
Philly should take the highest upside player. Paul George and Embiid are cooked, basically sunk costs. Start playing for the future

he would be replacing embiid maybe as soon as 26/27. embiid may be a part time player now. the need a young center too.

[BoyzNTheHood]

im going to go out on a limb and say the sixers take maluach at 3 or trade down to take him. (unless they trade up to 2). they need a legit center more than a wing. they have maxey + mccain and will pay grimes...not to mention paul george. you know embiid will miss at least 30 games next year.

you shouldn't draft a backup in the top 3.
Philly should take the highest upside player. Paul George and Embiid are cooked, basically sunk costs. Start playing for the future

The fact that this joke of an organization will secure VJ freakin Edgecombe on draft night pisses me off to no ends.