PG: derozan will never learn

[AK47MVP]

Nothing new, Casey being Casey, DeMar and Lowry being playoff DeMar and Lowry as well. We would have better chance to win if both of them and Casey gets thrown out for technicals in the first quarter. That would be a good game plan actually, Casey should just get himself out in first couple minutes after first couple foul calls on Raptors.

[yuckwheat]

I was angry at the Raptors for taking too long to initiate their offense and attack the D. For god know what reason, they kept slowing the game down, walking up the court, allowing the wiz to set up their D. It was so annoying to watch.

[Mikistan]

I was angry at the Raptors for taking too long to initiate their offense and attack the D. For god know what reason, they kept slowing the game down, walking up the court, allowing the wiz to set up their D. It was so annoying to watch.

This **** team never learns, pound the rock

[HiMyNameIsTrey]

I was angry at the Raptors for taking too long to initiate their offense and attack the D. For god know what reason, they kept slowing the game down, walking up the court, allowing the wiz to set up their D. It was so annoying to watch.

This is exactly why the bench w/ Fred was so successful and fun to watch. We're back to 2016 basketball.

[Psubs]

I was angry at the Raptors for taking too long to initiate their offense and attack the D. For god know what reason, they kept slowing the game down, walking up the court, allowing the wiz to set up their D. It was so annoying to watch.

This is exactly why the bench w/ Fred was so successful and fun to watch. We're back to 2016 basketball.

They were trying to protect the lead and slow down the pace.

[Mikistan]

Bosh leaving helped DeMar but it also hurt his game. once bosh left and brags officially became a flop DeMar basically felt he needed to develop a selfish style of basketball in order to be successful, he developed this me, me, me style of game and you're just not going to be successful in the playoff' playing that style of basketball. Whats even worse is lowry came along with the same mentality, he was an older player that Houston let go because of the same me-first mentality smh both these guys together is just a bad combination.

LOLOL Lowry takes like 10 shots a game, Demar averages 5 apg and a whole bunch of hockey assists as well that don't show up on the stat sheet. They are the definition of unselfish.

LMAO

Once you start watching how Lowry holds the ball and doesn't pass when the bigs are open, doesn't inbound right away and waits to look for Demar's specific actions. Our top guys Kyle and Demar don't even move much off the ball, unless the action is designed for them to get open for a pass, they stand still.

Once you see that our team offense - while having "options" for people to make decisions, are constantly being run for the specific handoff of passing the ball right back to Demar or Kyle, you notice that no, its not "unselfish"

I don't call Demar dribbling until 12 seconds left on the shot clock, only to begin a pick and roll that doesnt get him into the lane, then passing to a perimeter guy with 2 seconds left unselfish - i call that bad, lazy basketball, that is very selfish because he did nothing and offloaded the late-shot to someone else.

Not that I want Demar shooting more 30% shots

[tdot56]

I was angry at the Raptors for taking too long to initiate their offense and attack the D. For god know what reason, they kept slowing the game down, walking up the court, allowing the wiz to set up their D. It was so annoying to watch.

Fred is more valuable than dd any day on both ends and in making people around him better...

Dd should have been traded for best draft pick possible and still should, but his value is dropping like a rock....

[Dr Positivity]

The other guys need to play better but DeKobe killed us.

[SFour]

Anyone else feel like that 6th foul on Beal actually **** over the Raps? Refs are known to make up for calls, it seems like they did that with non-call on the Raps and touch fouls for the Wizards. Not to give the Raptors any excuses, they deserve to lose for reverting back to ISO ball.

[TrustFundBaby]

Anyone else feel like that 6th foul on Beal actually **** over the Raps? Refs are known to make up for calls, it seems like they did that with non-call on the Raps and touch fouls for the Wizards.

100%.

After that, they wouldn't call **** for us, and would call everything for them.

[RaptorsNorth]

Masai’s biggest mistake was not siging someone on the buyout market, heck Ty Lawson from China is giving more meaningful minutes than Lorenzo Brown. Hell Sonny Weems would be an upgrade over Norman and Lorenzo. We have no other consistent scoring threat after FVV injury. Everyone is so inconsistent.

we should have signed miller over brown. norman powell is a waste of a roster spot at the SF position, a turnover machine, and overall just a waste of time.

[Basketball_Jones]

I was angry at the Raptors for taking too long to initiate their offense and attack the D. For god know what reason, they kept slowing the game down, walking up the court, allowing the wiz to set up their D. It was so annoying to watch.

Fred is more valuable than dd any day on both ends and in making people around him better...

Dd should have been traded for best draft pick possible and still should, but his value is dropping like a rock....

lol Van Vleet is an all star but let's not go crazy here. Demar is an MVP candidate.

[PhilBlackson]

I was angry at the Raptors for taking too long to initiate their offense and attack the D. For god know what reason, they kept slowing the game down, walking up the court, allowing the wiz to set up their D. It was so annoying to watch.

Fred is more valuable than dd any day on both ends and in making people around him better...

Dd should have been traded for best draft pick possible and still should, but his value is dropping like a rock....

lol Van Vleet is an all star but let's not go crazy here. Demar is an MVP candidate.

Nah DeMar is the biggest fraud MVP candidate I've seen in a long time.

It's a lazy nomination that uninformed media make because they look at a near 60W team n see that DeMar is the highest scorer on the team. Every metric/analytics that actually measures the positive impact of a player will favor Fred.

[RaptorsNorth]

I was angry at the Raptors for taking too long to initiate their offense and attack the D. For god know what reason, they kept slowing the game down, walking up the court, allowing the wiz to set up their D. It was so annoying to watch.

Fred is more valuable than dd any day on both ends and in making people around him better...

Dd should have been traded for best draft pick possible and still should, but his value is dropping like a rock....

lol Van Vleet is an all-star but let's not go crazy here. Demar is an MVP candidate.

more like more valuable than Lowry. a healthy Fred can get you 10 points, 8 assists with the same playing time Lowry is getting, if not more.

[CoachJReturns]

OG has played 0 fourth quarter minutes in 4 games. I repeat ZERO minutes.
Had to check the stats multiple times thinking surely I must be wrong. Nope. Casey and his legendary feel for the game.

What does OG have to do? Playing great on both ends every game. One of our best defenders. Playing smart and composed and still not rewarded by Casey.

Hey man its nothint new, casey can not adjust in game. He always sticks to what he knows and takes about 48 hours to make any adjustments. The reason why this team will never be a contender

This isn't really an adjustment though. If you start OG then the ordinary thing to do would be to bring the starter in at some point in the 4th quarter. That doesn't require an adjustment, or any kind of strategy whatsoever. It's just the ordinary rotational move you would expect.
Just wasting some hard work from a rookie who figures into the team's future plans.

[RonaldArtest]

Fred is more valuable than dd any day on both ends and in making people around him better...

Dd should have been traded for best draft pick possible and still should, but his value is dropping like a rock....

lol Van Vleet is an all star but let's not go crazy here. Demar is an MVP candidate.

Nah DeMar is the biggest fraud MVP candidate I've seen in a long time.

It's a lazy nomination that uninformed media make because they look at a near 60W team n see that DeMar is the highest scorer on the team. Every metric/analytics that actually measures the positive impact of a player will favor Fred.

So by your logic, FVV would make a better 1st option over Demar?

[PhilBlackson]

lol Van Vleet is an all star but let's not go crazy here. Demar is an MVP candidate.

Nah DeMar is the biggest fraud MVP candidate I've seen in a long time.

It's a lazy nomination that uninformed media make because they look at a near 60W team n see that DeMar is the highest scorer on the team. Every metric/analytics that actually measures the positive impact of a player will favor Fred.

So by your logic, FVV would make a better 1st option over Demar?

Better question...

Is that what I said or you're making that up because you don't have anything to refute what I actually said?!

[720]

Fred is more valuable than dd any day on both ends and in making people around him better...

Dd should have been traded for best draft pick possible and still should, but his value is dropping like a rock....

lol Van Vleet is an all-star but let's not go crazy here. Demar is an MVP candidate.

more like more valuable than Lowry. a healthy Fred can get you 10 points, 8 assists with the same playing time Lowry is getting, if not more.

Id rather have FVV and Lowry out there than DeTrash DeFrozan any day.

[CoachJReturns]

lol Van Vleet is an all star but let's not go crazy here. Demar is an MVP candidate.

Nah DeMar is the biggest fraud MVP candidate I've seen in a long time.

It's a lazy nomination that uninformed media make because they look at a near 60W team n see that DeMar is the highest scorer on the team. Every metric/analytics that actually measures the positive impact of a player will favor Fred.

So by your logic, FVV would make a better 1st option over Demar?

Neither is a first option on a legit title contender. There Raptors do not have that caliber of superstar on the roster. But DeMar is more suited to being a 1st option since that's a role he's had since high school I imagine.
Fred, however, is a guy who might be able to start on a contender in a complementary role. He's Derek Fisher to Kobe Bryant, or B.J Armstrong to MJ.

[NY 567]

I get why you guys are panicking, but considering the landscape, you guys aren't in awful shape. The Cavs are vulnerable, the 76ers are still young and green, their is still a path to the finals. Even in the West, if the Warriors get knocked out, it's anyone's ballgame.