Official Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Fairview4Life]

Wear a **** mask!

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[NinjaBro]

Canada is doing great! It doesn't surprise me that the number of cases are going up all over the world though. Saw some of the protestors and a lot are not wearing masks. They're all bunched up like sardines with hoards of people shouting and singing transmitting droplets all over the place. People need to be careful out there. I can see a giant spike in the number of cases the next few weeks.

[shmoosicle]

I wouldn't say we're doing great, we're doing okay. New Zealand is doing great.

[binjumper]

I wouldn't say we're doing great, we're doing okay. New Zealand is doing great.

doing better than the neighbors down south and a lot of European countries and majority of the world tbh

[NBA Sheady]

Canada doesn't care about the spread allowing protests to happen without fines during a pandemic with some GOV officials taking part to get votes when the time is needed.

So when the virus starts to spread for those of you that look at the case #s blame the GOV and the protesters for the spike.

I assume you're referring to the anti-lockdown protests that go on each week.

Oh wait...those were mostly white people...and oh wait...there was no second spike.

[dohboy_24]

"B.C. has confirmed 12 new cases in the past 24 hours, for a total of 2,680. Nearly 87 per cent of those cases have resolved. B.C. now has just 185 active cases. Twelve COVID-19 patients are in hospital, four of them in intensive care."

https://globalnews.ca/news/7051890/b-c-records-no-covid-19-deaths-for-fifth-day-in-a-row/

"Health officials confirmed an additional 230 cases on Tuesday, which was the lowest number of new infections in over 10 weeks. On Monday, the province recorded 243 new cases.

In a Tweet on Tuesday, Health Minister Christine Elliott called the province’s downward trend "very promising.""

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-records-increase-of-new-covid-19-cases-but-downward-trend-continues-1.4977783

[dohboy_24]

"Based on the data that we understand and the best evidence that we have currently on COVID-19 the greatest transmission happens from the droplets, the secretions that come out of people's nose and mouth if they are sick with COVID-19 and they're up close and within close contact of another person"

https://www.cp24.com/news/can-i-catch-covid-19-in-a-pool-toronto-s-top-doctor-answers-covid-19-questions-1.4978985

Not feeling well?



"We know that the risk of transmitting COVID-19 or getting COVID-19 when you're out in the great outdoors is much lower than it is when you're inside. So out in the great fresh air is a great thing."

"We know that there is a risk the more you interact with people, especially in crowds, in closed spaces and indoor spaces. We know the risk is definitely reduced outdoors"

Not sick? Feeling good?



Yep, totally different... nothing like the advice given by health and medical officials every single flu season...

[dohboy_24]

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"More than two weeks after thousands of young people gathered in Trinity Bellwoods Park to socialize and party, Toronto Public Health says there has been "no evidence" of a spike in new cases that can be linked back to that day."

"However, COVID-19 continues to circulate in Toronto & over 65% of cases reported since that day are from a close contact."

https://www.blogto.com/city/2020/06/toronto-says-no-evidence-covid-19-spike-related-trinity-bellwoods/

Why can't the sick people just stay home and let the rest of us go outside where it's safe?

[Fairview4Life]

Wear a mask.

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[Raps in 4]

Wear a mask.

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I am shocked. Where are all the experts now who told us not to wear masks during the first few months of this outbreak? When the Asian medical community was telling the world to wear masks (for decades now), we ignored them. Now that a study in a western country was done, it's suddenly a revelation.

I'm glad it's finally becoming accepted over here though.

[dohboy_24]

[Fairview4Life]

I am shocked. Where are all the experts now who told us not to wear masks during the first few months of this outbreak? When the Asian medical community was telling the world to wear masks (for decades now), we ignored them. Now that a study in a western country was done, it's suddenly a revelation.

I'm glad it's finally becoming accepted over here though.

This isn't a new thing. It has been recommended for a few months. Just more evidence based now.

[NinjaBro]

It's pretty obvious for a while that masks helps to stop the transmission of the virus. I was watching some recent videos of Taiwan and life there is almost normal. They never shut down their economy, there's just a wider acceptance of using face masks. When people enter a bakery to buy pastries, there's someone at the door to check your temperature with a little hand held scanner. Masks must be worn before you can enter. If you don't have one, they supply you with one. Hand sanitizer is also sprayed on your hands by the person at the door before you enter. And of course there are social distancing measures, only allowing a few in at a time.

There has been ZERO new cases in Taiwan for weeks. I can't see why we couldn't implement these simple measures here in Canada instead of shutting down our entire economy.

[Fairview4Life]

It's pretty obvious for a while that masks helps to stop the transmission of the virus. I was watching some recent videos of Taiwan and life there is almost normal. They never shut down their economy, there's just a wider acceptance of using face masks. When people enter a bakery to buy pastries, there's someone at the door to check your temperature with a little hand held scanner. Masks must be worn before you can enter. If you don't have one, they supply you with one. Hand sanitizer is also sprayed on your hands by the person at the door before you enter. And of course there are social distancing measures, only allowing a few in at a time.

There has been ZERO new cases in Taiwan for weeks. I can't see why we couldn't implement these simple measures here in Canada instead of shutting down our entire economy.

They also have an extreme contact tracing protocol. So yes, if we do all of that stuff we can probably "reopen" the economy. NS for example is already essentially at that point. Most businesses opened this week, daycares next week.

[Raps in 4]

It's pretty obvious for a while that masks helps to stop the transmission of the virus. I was watching some recent videos of Taiwan and life there is almost normal. They never shut down their economy, there's just a wider acceptance of using face masks. When people enter a bakery to buy pastries, there's someone at the door to check your temperature with a little hand held scanner. Masks must be worn before you can enter. If you don't have one, they supply you with one. Hand sanitizer is also sprayed on your hands by the person at the door before you enter. And of course there are social distancing measures, only allowing a few in at a time.

There has been ZERO new cases in Taiwan for weeks. I can't see why we couldn't implement these simple measures here in Canada instead of shutting down our entire economy.

All the developed Asian countries handled this outbreak with minimal disruption.

[Kevin Willis]

I have been watching closely both California and India. California and India. California because it's a similar size and was cautious earlier than even us. India because of the hot climate and spread in hot climate. Seems like both got off the quarantine too early as California's cases have spiked and India has gone through the roof (So much for heat slowing it down).

I am glad we waited a little bit longer and were a more patient. Saved a lot of deaths.

[Lord_Zedd]

I have been watching closely both California and India. California and India. California because it's a similar size and was cautious earlier than even us. India because of the hot climate and spread in hot climate. Seems like both got off the quarantine too early as California's cases have spiked and India has gone through the roof (So much for heat slowing it down).

I am glad we waited a little bit longer and were a more patient. Saved a lot of deaths.

Arizona is a state to keep an eye on. Since they reopened almost a month ago, they've gone nowhere but up in terms of cases/hospitalizations. Now their hospitals are almost out of beds and health officials are begging its citizens to wear a mask.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/11/arizona-coronavirus-cases-nearly-double-since-memorial-day-as-state-nears-hospital-capacity.html
https://www.newsweek.com/arizonas-spike-coronavirus-cases-definitely-related-reopening-says-former-state-health-1509549

Stock markets haven't taken too kindly over the reopening either with what's happening in the Southern USA.

[NBA Sheady]

405 new cases for Canada yesterday. We just broke into triple digits a few weeks ago so we're trending sharply downward.

[binjumper]

405 new cases for Canada yesterday. We just broke into triple digits a few weeks ago so we're trending sharply downward.

I tend not to look at the whole country for numbers. As Quebec is a doing a terrible job. Ontario wise things are looking good.

[dohboy_24]

Arizona is a state to keep an eye on. Since they reopened almost a month ago, they've gone nowhere but up in terms of cases/hospitalizations. Now their hospitals are almost out of beds and health officials are begging its citizens to wear a mask.

What about the number of tests administered during these time frames?

On average, how many daily/weekly tests were being conducted in the state of Arizona 60 or 90 days ago? On average, how many daily/weekly tests have been conducted during the last 30 days?

Should you wish to know them, it's not that difficult to find the answers:

"The ADHS Monday report states 150,241 tests have been done in Arizona with 6.7% of those coming back positive."

https://www.verdenews.com/news/2020/may/11/arizona-covid-19-positive-test-results-now-67/
Originally Published: May 11, 2020 10:01 a.m.

"As of Sunday, June 7, the Arizona Department of Health Services reported 26,889 cases of COVID-19 and 1,044 deaths in the state. It said 393,246 tests for COVID-19 had been completed as of Sunday in public and private labs in Arizona, for a positive test rate of just over 6.8%."

https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2020/06/05/covid19-in-arizona-june-5/
June 5, 2020 | Updated: Sunday, June 7, 10 a.m.

Since testing was started until May 11:

150,241 tests administered
11,380 positive tests
11,380/150,241 = 7.5 % of those who are tested, tested positive for covid-19

Not sure how the ADHS calculated this number as 6.7%, but the math says 7.5% of those tested, tested positive for covid-19.

Since testing was started until June 7:

393,246 tests administered
26,889 positive tests
26,889/393,246 = 6.8 % of those who are tested, tested positive for covid-19

Number of tests between May 11 and June 7:

393,246 - 150,241 = 243,005
26,889 - 11,380 = 15,509

243,005 tests administered
15,509 positive tests
15,509/243,005 = 6.4 % of those who are tested, tested positive for covid-19

More tests were administered. A lot more tests. Almost double the number of tests since testing began were conducted between May 11 and Jun 7.

The percentage of positive tests DID NOT INCREASE by a statistically significant amount between these two time frames.

To the contrary, the overall percentage of positive tests has actually decreased. Compared to period of time when testing began until May 11 (7.5%), the overall percentage of positive tests is now 6.8%.

Even though almost 2 times as many tests were administered between the period of May 11-June 7 the percentage of people testing positive fell by a percentage point to 6.4%, causing the overall percentage of positive tests to drop to 6.8% - the lowest point since testing began.

If the percentage of those who tested positive has dropped despite twice as many tests being administered to achieve the number of reported cases/hospitalizations, how does that indicate the virus is spreading more rapidly than compared to the past?

How does that indicate the lockdown measures should be reinstated because their removal has been unsuccessful?

Would health officials be forced to beg Arizona resident to wear a mask if they didn't test twice as many people during the last 30 days?

Would health officials be forced to beg Arizona residents to wear a mask if the media were reporting the number of tests and drop in the overall percentage of positive tests accurately?