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Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#881 » by C-R-E-A-M- » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:20 am

Portland receives: Paul George

Clippers receives: Pascal Siakam

Raptors receives: Simons and 3rd pick

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#882 » by anotherhomer » Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:42 am

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:Portland receives: Paul George

Clippers receives: Pascal Siakam

Raptors receives: Simons and 3rd pick

You’re welcome

Paul George is much older (33) and more injury prone
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#883 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:58 am

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#884 » by Pointgod » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:29 pm

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Jordan makes a final bad pick before he sells the team?


Brandon Miller is that good. Wing players are harder to find.


I’m not a draft expert but from what I’ve seen and read, the reasoning for picking Miller isn’t that he’s head and shoulders above Scoot but that Charlotte already has Lamelo on the team. The comparisons I’ve heard for Brandon Miller are Danny Granger and Brandon Ingram, but he doesn’t seem to have the raw two way talent of even a Paul George. Not that it’s going to turn out this way, but it reminds me of the decision to draft Bogut and Marvin Williams over Chris Paul because you already have a PG on the roster. Again I could be wrong here but Charlotte has a very poor history of draft picks.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#885 » by Duffman100 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:37 pm

Pointgod wrote:
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Jordan makes a final bad pick before he sells the team?


Brandon Miller is that good. Wing players are harder to find.


I’m not a draft expert but from what I’ve seen and read, the reasoning for picking Miller isn’t that he’s head and shoulders above Scoot but that Charlotte already has Lamelo on the team. The comparisons I’ve heard for Brandon Miller are Danny Granger and Brandon Ingram, but he doesn’t seem to have the raw two way talent of even a Paul George. Not that it’s going to turn out this way, but it reminds me of the decision to draft Bogut and Marvin Williams over Chris Paul because you already have a PG on the roster. Again I could be wrong here but Charlotte has a very poor history of draft picks.


What’s sad is Atlanta didn’t even really have a good PG on the roster. The Marvin Williams pick was baffling.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#886 » by traps#10 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:45 pm

Raptors are always in rumours but rarely anything gets done. Only behind the scenes out of the blue deals are done usually with this organization.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#887 » by TorontoRapsFan » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:46 pm

Portland wanting Bam is interesting. Shows they'd take a big but also tells Raptors they have options beside Siakam. I can see Raps offering OG and not budging while Blazers asking for Siakam.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#888 » by Red_Claw » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:49 pm

TorontoRapsFan wrote:Portland wanting Bam is interesting. Shows they'd take a big but also tells Raptors they have options beside Siakam. I can see Raps offering OG and not budging while Blazers asking for Siakam.


The problem Miami had in the finals was size. Can't see them trading their best big man to try and get better. Its posturing IMO.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#889 » by Duffman100 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:50 pm

TorontoRapsFan wrote:Portland wanting Bam is interesting. Shows they'd take a big but also tells Raptors they have options beside Siakam. I can see Raps offering OG and not budging while Blazers asking for Siakam.


Yeah I was thinking the Raps might be offering OG and the 13 for the 3. They want to team Scoot with Barnes and Pascal.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#890 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:53 pm

TorontoRapsFan wrote:Portland wanting Bam is interesting. Shows they'd take a big but also tells Raptors they have options beside Siakam. I can see Raps offering OG and not budging while Blazers asking for Siakam.


There’s no way that’s a real rumour. Miami just isn’t moving Adebayo. If anything they need to add size.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#891 » by traps#10 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:54 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
TorontoRapsFan wrote:Portland wanting Bam is interesting. Shows they'd take a big but also tells Raptors they have options beside Siakam. I can see Raps offering OG and not budging while Blazers asking for Siakam.


Yeah I was thinking the Raps might be offering OG and the 13 for the 3. They want to team Scoot with Barnes and Pascal.


Do you think if we somehow acquire the 3rd pick to get Scoot that would automatically mean we are not resigning FVV?
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#892 » by italraptors » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:55 pm

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:Portland receives: Paul George

Clippers receives: Pascal Siakam

Raptors receives: Simons and 3rd pick

You’re welcome


this works for all 3 teams. i want that 3rd pick badly.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#893 » by Duffman100 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:56 pm

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TorontoRapsFan wrote:Portland wanting Bam is interesting. Shows they'd take a big but also tells Raptors they have options beside Siakam. I can see Raps offering OG and not budging while Blazers asking for Siakam.


Yeah I was thinking the Raps might be offering OG and the 13 for the 3. They want to team Scoot with Barnes and Pascal.


Do you think if we somehow acquire the 3rd pick to get Scoot that would automatically mean we are not resigning FVV?


Maybe? I could see logic either way.

Get Fred to mentor Scoot (I know I know)

Or hands the keys to Scoot right away.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#894 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:56 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
TorontoRapsFan wrote:Portland wanting Bam is interesting. Shows they'd take a big but also tells Raptors they have options beside Siakam. I can see Raps offering OG and not budging while Blazers asking for Siakam.


Yeah I was thinking the Raps might be offering OG and the 13 for the 3. They want to team Scoot with Barnes and Pascal.


that would be a dream scenario but i don't see that offer being played out because OG+13 is probably one of the 'worse' trade offers for the #3 pick imho - if we're talking about Portland not translating that #3 into a perennial allstar calibre player.

i mean if Toronto, as current as the roster is today and had the #3 pick, needed a vet, no way they trade that pick for an OG level type of player (and the 13th)
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#895 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:56 pm

billy_hoyle wrote:If Scoot goes 2, I think the 3rd pick drops in value.

OG + Siakam for Shaedon + 3 + Simons

Pick Miller.
Hope Wallace falls to 13

A foursome of Barnes, Miller, Sharpe and Wallace looks very well balanced and complementary IMO.

Still have GTJ, Precious and Koloko. Add Simons.

Keep Jak. You might be good quickly. Alot of high end talent there.



I get the feeling this organization would want nothing to do with Miller given his recent past. What if he were ever charged, you might not get him over the border. The risk there might be slim but you can’t ignore it, not to mention it’s stupid and questionable character-wise.

So any trade for 3 would be contingent on Scoot being available at the time.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#896 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:58 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
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Yeah I was thinking the Raps might be offering OG and the 13 for the 3. They want to team Scoot with Barnes and Pascal.


Do you think if we somehow acquire the 3rd pick to get Scoot that would automatically mean we are not resigning FVV?


Maybe? I could see logic either way.

Get Fred to mentor Scoot (I know I know)

Or hands the keys to Scoot right away.


at $30M, no way.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#897 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:58 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
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TorontoRapsFan wrote:Portland wanting Bam is interesting. Shows they'd take a big but also tells Raptors they have options beside Siakam. I can see Raps offering OG and not budging while Blazers asking for Siakam.


Yeah I was thinking the Raps might be offering OG and the 13 for the 3. They want to team Scoot with Barnes and Pascal.


that would be a dream scenario but i don't see that offer being played out because OG+13 is probably one of the 'worse' trade offers for the #3 pick imho - if we're talking about Portland not translating that #3 into a perennial allstar calibre player.

i mean if Toronto, as current as the roster is today and had the #3 pick, needed a vet, no way they trade that pick for an OG level type of player (and the 13th)


Og and 13 is better than PG13. Especially when you have to find about 10 mil salary to trade instead of 40. It in effect means they could keep Simons.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#898 » by _MidNight_ » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:02 pm

TorontoRapsFan wrote:Portland wanting Bam is interesting. Shows they'd take a big but also tells Raptors they have options beside Siakam. I can see Raps offering OG and not budging while Blazers asking for Siakam.



What they fail to realize with this smoke is any contending team like the Clippers or Miami will not go from that close to winning the title to essentially rebuilding or retooling.
You're asking these teams to subtract their second best player on a contending team for a rookie, they wont be contention anymore :crazy:
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#899 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:02 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
billy_hoyle wrote:If Scoot goes 2, I think the 3rd pick drops in value.

OG + Siakam for Shaedon + 3 + Simons

Pick Miller.
Hope Wallace falls to 13

A foursome of Barnes, Miller, Sharpe and Wallace looks very well balanced and complementary IMO.

Still have GTJ, Precious and Koloko. Add Simons.

Keep Jak. You might be good quickly. Alot of high end talent there.



I get the feeling this organization would want nothing to do with Miller given his recent past. What if he were ever charged, you might not get him over the border. The risk there might be slim but you can’t ignore it, not to mention it’s stupid and questionable character-wise.

So any trade for 3 would be contingent on Scoot being available at the time.


i mean Toronto would probably surprise everyone and take Hendricks at #3 :lol:
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#900 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:06 pm

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