Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley

[ItsDanger]

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This is something our front office won't appreciate. They'd be in a rush to get them a new contract and overpay ASAP.

[Mr. Perfect]

Wonder if we can dupe the Grizz into taking a package with Quickley for Ja Morant.

I'm no Morant fan but I've wanted off of Quickley since we first signed him to that contract. Dude is an 8th man on a serious team, we're paying him all-star money. Might be the worst contract we've had since Demarre Carroll, and we had to give up a first to dump his deal.

[Mark_83]

RJ has earned the right to stay imo. He's worked hard to improve, is a great lockeroom guy, and loves it here. Quickley is slowly becoming a negative asset at this point.

[basketballto]

RJ has earned the right to stay imo. He's worked hard to improve, is a great lockeroom guy, and loves it here. Quickley is slowly becoming a negative asset at this point.

I agree RJ has been a professional and improved. He has raised his skillset and abilities. Keeping him would be foolish. His next contract will be higher than his existing contract. Now is the time to move on.

Quickley just doesn't have the mindset to be a point guard.

[Thaddy]

RJ has earned the right to stay imo. He's worked hard to improve, is a great lockeroom guy, and loves it here. Quickley is slowly becoming a negative asset at this point.

I agree RJ has been a professional and improved. He has raised his skillset and abilities. Keeping him would be foolish. His next contract will be higher than his existing contract. Now is the time to move on.

Quickley just doesn't have the mindset to be a point guard.

I like RJ more than IQ but trading RJ makes more sense. IQs contract will look better over time while RJ will want more than he makes now. I have RJ as a Giddey level player, probably worse for winning. He should make 20M a year by that standard.

He has a great stat line but hes limited to being a great 3rd option. That isn't making or breaking a championship team. It's kind of just there? Maybe nice to have? Definitely not needed.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

I think its kinda unfair how RJ's production is looked at when a lot of the time he was playing with rookies and g-leaguers and given grenades on offence to try to create with no spacing. It was RJ and Dick trying to solo teams with IQ and Barnes in and out of the lineup. Or it would be RJ and Barnes and Barnes would just defer to RJ and leave him on an island to create out of nothing.

The fact that RJ can have the same level of offensive efficiency as someone like Franz Wagner (maxed out, highly touted) yet gets crapped on is funny. Franz is for sure the better defender and is physically larger, but if I can get Franz scoring and better passing with my 4th option I'm pretty satisfied. Pretty sure Franz is making a lot more than RJ is and will be as well.

RJ only played 16 games with IQ and Scottie all suited up in the same game all season last year. He was forced to play above his intended role and now gets crapped on for being forced to do it because everyone was injured around him. Remember how amazing he looked right before we traded Pascal 2 years ago?

In those 7 games he played with IQ/Scottie/Pascal, he averaged 19/7/3 on 55/39/76 (64%TS). With this new version that damn near doubled his AST% this past year, I think we can get similar offensive efficiency and more assists as well. If he can stay in the mid 70s as a FT shooter, that TS% will be spooky.

His path to becoming a clear positive player is clear and not unobtainable. Wouldn't be shocked one bit if by the deadline we have teams trying to trade FOR him

RJ doing exactly what I said he could >>>>

[Prestige]

Here in the forum, when RJ is playing good and IQ bad, everybody wants to keep RJ and move IQ. Then when RJ struggles people will start calling for him to be traded.

That’s not how you make moves. You analyze the long term goal without getting emotionally attached. If we see that RJ can bring back another valuable piece, and we believe we can move on without him, you pump up his value and then move him to the highest bidder. The Raptors should absolutely see what they can get for him in the next few months if he keeps this up.

IQ needs to stick around until we similarly get him playing well for an extended period of time.

[arbsn]

Why do people hate RJ so much

He’s young, from Toronto, improving, wants to be here, wants to win and might already be our best player.

Raps fans are so weird

Nobody is paying him 40 million he will prob get something similar to what he makes now

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[WiggOuts]

RJ isnt going anywhere, at this point wed be dumb to trade him for anything that isnt an upgrade

[tsherkin]

Why do people hate RJ so much

He’s young, from Toronto, improving, wants to be here, wants to win and might already be our best player.

Raps fans are so weird

Nobody is paying him 40 million he will prob get something similar to what he makes now

I think a lot of it comes from his performance prior to this season. He has some pretty glaring weaknesses, too. Or at least, he has had to date. This year so far, he has been shooting over 78% from the line, hitting threes nicely and while he's still pretty witless at help defense, he's doing a lot of good things for us.

He IS quite productive in the box score, so I think a lot of people are looking at him as a moveable asset which could potentially lead to meaningful upgrade, I guess? He's going to stop shooting 66% inside the arc at some point, and he's never been better than 74% at the line, so that'll likely normalize at least a little, so I wonder if people aren't thinking "sell high."

But I mean, for the moment, he's definitely a bright spot in our season so far. He's shown some growth with us since the trade, to be honest, so there's a chance it might be better just to keep him unless a pretty awesome deal comes along. We're all hot to improve and to try and fix everything right now, but if we make hasty moves to make moves, then we perpetuate the cycle, right? Short-sighted nonsense won't help us.

[Basketball_Jones]

RJ is nice and I think we’re all hoping the efficiency so far isn’t a mirage. I have a feeling it is though. I had a thought of perhaps the Raptors using him more at the 4 to hide his defensive inefficiencies as well like teams have had to do with Demar. But we’re kind of full there so I’m unsure of a long term fit. But I can say that with almost everyone on this team.

[ash_k]

RJ must be officially removed from any trade talk unless the return is Anthony Edwards. I would not even trade him for Jayson Tatum(Achilles). Now IQ any day of the week as I have never believed in him and was shocked how so many folks on this board were treating him as the "get" of the trade over RJ("throw-in" RJ LOL you have to love those baseball fans with their analytics).
I want Ja! He needs a super fresh start like BI!

[Johnny Bball]

IQ throughout his career so far has been a 38-39% 3 point shooter...he just needs to get back to that.

Shooting 18% from 3 is not the norm for him.

Something tells me as his average rises from 18%, Scottie's 54% from three will descend.

It probably should happen since both appear to be statistical outliers.

[Johnny Bball]

Still a firm believer the worst Trade we made was for Ingram (We lost the Indy Pick this year which is probably a lotto pick and we lost cap flexibility for a best case scenario of being a 5/6 seed or a play in team?

Most teams have to get to the 5th 6th spot before the actually start to improve beyond that right? That life doesn't end at 5/6 and teams can improve?

[Potential]

RJ has become one of the best players in the NBA and I'm not surprised. Canadians have taken over the league and it was only a matter of time he was going to finally live up to the draft hype. Trading IQ for Ja would honestly be a good thing for Memphis because they have 0 leverage but all we need is an upgrade at the 5 who can shoot 3s to balance the lineup

Ja
RJ
Ingram
Scottie
Embiid

[tsherkin]

RJ has become one of the best players in the NBA and I'm not surprised.

No he hasn't, let's not be nuts here. "one of the best players in the NBA" is massive hyperbole.

He's having an excellent start, but it would take some serious mental gymnastics to believe that he'll maintain this specific level of play. There is a 0% chance he shoots 66% inside the arc on the remainder of the season.

This might be a career season for him, because he's got some good spacing and he isn't being asked to carry the creation load. That's a separate consideration, and it's really nice to ponder. Offensively, he's been a bright spot for us so far, but we have played 7 games, so let's calm down just a little

[Pointgod]

RJ has stepped up his game and is playing some of the best basketball of his career. This is exactly why we should trade him while his value is high. Barnes didn’t going anywhere, neither is Ingram. Quickley will be hard to move unless we attach picks. We’re too close to the cap to keep Ochai this summer and resign Dick, Shead, Mogbo (seems to be the odd man out) while giving RJ a modest raise. Not saying you trade him for nothing but if a team is willing to give us good value then you pull the trigger.

[everdiso]

Shouldn't be surprised to see everyone's efficiency go up when they're surrounded by guys who can all score pass and dribble.

[bluerap23]

AllStar J is untradeable atm