Jonas Valanciunas 11/12 Season Thread II

RPzB · Post #901 » by **RPzB** » Fri Mar 9, 2012 8:15 pm

ESTK wrote:
RPzB wrote:
ESTK wrote:btw, if you don't already know, Valanciunas appreciates fans (team's) a lot. He is the last one to get into dressing room, because he always thanks fans the most. Even cheering to ultras songs.

Too bad all ultras are total ****.

too bad noone cares about your opinion

And yet it's amusing to see ultra (or perhaps just the ultra idea supporter) that knows a foreign language. Also why reply to my post, if you don't care about what I posted?

ESTK · Post #902 » by **ESTK** » Fri Mar 9, 2012 8:16 pm

UcanUwill wrote:I believe most Lithuanian fans hates ultras...

Yes, it's better to shout "**** you referee in kaunas and Vilnius" with green death and sekla crew. Of couse they hate ultras, because they have Russian mentality left, old and useless understanding of what support should be and sound like.

RPzB, because your post had nothing to do with this thread.

raptor21_85 · Post #903 » by **raptor21_85** » Fri Mar 9, 2012 8:29 pm

wth is an ultra??

ESTK · Post #904 » by **ESTK** » Fri Mar 9, 2012 8:34 pm

raptor21_85 wrote:wth is an ultra??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultras

raptor21_85 · Post #905 » by **raptor21_85** » Fri Mar 9, 2012 8:42 pm

of course... ultras!!! well they're common in soccer.. didnt know there are ultras in basketball too... anyways, wait to raps make the playoffs.. so many years of absence could turn the sea of red into an ultra

Post #906 » by **Alfred** » Fri Mar 9, 2012 8:47 pm

raptor21_85 wrote:wth is an ultra??

raptor21_85 · Post #907 » by **raptor21_85** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:36 am

Big V with not a nice game, but still decent
6pts, 7rebnds, 1 assist,1 block, 4 TO in 16 min (blowout) Lietuvos won 77-49
4 TO??? i couldnt watch the game, but i'd like to know where these TO came from. He has been lately committin several TO per game..

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Lit ... 87_683.asp

UcanUwill · Post #908 » by **UcanUwill** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:52 am

Butter hands. Hes better starts licking his palms like Steve the man.

Darknemo2000 · Post #909 » by **Darknemo2000** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:12 am

UcanUwill wrote:Butter hands. Hes better starts licking his palms like Steve the man.

Not really. Most of his TO are offensive fouls and the bad passing across the court out of double teams. He catches the ball usually well even when the pass is atrocious.

UcanUwill · Post #910 » by **UcanUwill** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:28 am

His hands were always overrated. He cant catch low passes at all.

And look at his latest games. Most of his TOs were not offensive fouls or a bad pass.

nahom1319 · Post #911 » by **nahom1319** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:48 pm

UcanUwill wrote:His hands were always overrated. He cant catch low passes at all.

And look at his latest games. Most of his TOs were not offensive fouls or a bad pass.

Most big men are better at catching high passes then low passes.... you know cuz they are tall.

TheBigNas-T · Post #912 » by **TheBigNas-T** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:57 pm

Alfred wrote:
raptor21_85 wrote:wth is an ultra??

+ defiler and you can call it a night

JJWong17 · Post #913 » by **JJWong17** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:21 pm

Alfred wrote:
raptor21_85 wrote:wth is an ultra??

Huh, I didn't even notice the zealot in the bottom left. That scale on that seems little off.

Tofubeque · Post #914 » by **Tofubeque** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:47 pm

JJWong17 wrote:
Alfred wrote:
raptor21_85 wrote:wth is an ultra??

Huh, I didn't even notice the zealot in the bottom left. That scale on that seems little off.

That Zealot's got some balls.

Starcraft game models aren't to scale. Otherwise you wouldn't fit an ultra or Battleship on the computer screen. Or all ground units would be little dots.

GreenTank · Post #915 » by **GreenTank** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:21 pm

Hello. I was reading Raptors fans expectations about Valančiūnas for a while and surely noticed good expectations. However, I found it strange that only few connects Valančiūnas' success with point guards that he will have to play with. I was following Raptors games (mainly because of Kleiza) and I can surely say that you have a problem if your first or even second PG is such as Bayless. That's terrible. That might be even more terrible than Rytas' Rice. So if you have hight expectations about Jonas, don't even think to trade Calderon. The guy can play pick and rolls and if Jonas can do big things in the first season of NBA p&r is exactly his strongest card and deadly weapon. Obviously Valančiūnas won't be 100% physically ready for the NBA in the first season, so I wouldn't expect too much if JV won't have the guy who is a real point guard as Calderon. I would say even more- save Calderon and add another well passing PG.

And another thing. IMO, poor passing is one of the main current Raptors' problems. Without Calderon Raptors reminds NCAA team at best. Add world class passers to the puzzle. IMO, NBA teams tend to underrate this thing which is the key in basketball. That's why Lithuanian NT is always so successful, despite the fact there's only few (if any) NBA players.

peja drobnjak · Post #916 » by **peja drobnjak** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:50 pm

after jasikevicius who are the world class passers on lithuanian nt?

lothy · Post #917 » by **lothy** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:17 pm

peja drobnjak wrote:after jasikevicius who are the world class passers on lithuanian nt?

Jonas Valanciunas

On a serious note, we don't have any world class passers besides Jasikevicius. At least for the next decade, pg spot should be the weakest link on our NT.

GreenTank · Post #918 » by **GreenTank** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:18 pm

peja drobnjak wrote:after jasikevicius who are the world class passers on lithuanian nt?

Šiškauskas was a world class passer, but retired from NT in 2008. With Šaras they were the brains of Lithuanian NT. But the thing is that basically most of Lithuanian NT players are solid passers and are extremely unselfish.

I know it's different styles and cultures of BB, but for my eyes it's way too many wasted open looks in Raptors. If Bargs, Kleiza, Barbosa would get the ball in the right moment and would share the ball better, they would be better team.

raptors_star · Post #919 » by **raptors_star** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:18 pm

I found this half an hour TV special on JV that was posted on youtube today. It's mostly in lithuanian, so could somebody explain what's going on in this video and what's being said about him.

Some of the video is about the early stages in his career. Maybe the Raptors TV special on JV next week is just a translated version of this one. That would be hilarious.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sr_cOnBF2A[/youtube]

HSOB SIRHC · Post #920 » by **HSOB SIRHC** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:19 pm

GreenTank wrote:Hello. I was reading Raptors fans expectations about Valančiūnas for a while and surely noticed good expectations. However, I found it strange that only few connects Valančiūnas' success with point guards that he will have to play with. I was following Raptors games (mainly because of Kleiza) and I can surely say that you have a problem if your first or even second PG is such as Bayless. That's terrible. That might be even more terrible than Rytas' Rice. So if you have hight expectations about Jonas, don't even think to trade Calderon. The guy can play pick and rolls and if Jonas can do big things in the first season of NBA p&r is exactly his strongest card and deadly weapon. Obviously Valančiūnas won't be 100% physically ready for the NBA in the first season, so I wouldn't expect too much if JV won't have the guy who is a real point guard as Calderon. I would say even more- save Calderon and add another well passing PG.

And another thing. IMO, poor passing is one of the main current Raptors' problems. Without Calderon Raptors reminds NCAA team at best. Add world class passers to the puzzle. IMO, NBA teams tend to underrate this thing which is the key in basketball. That's why Lithuanian NT is always so successful, despite the fact there's only few (if any) NBA players.

100% agree that Jonas needs a pass first pg like a Calderon or Nash. That is one of the reasons why I wouldn't mind keeping Jose next year.