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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#901 » by bluerap23 » Wed Nov 5, 2025 12:10 pm

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This is something our front office won't appreciate. They'd be in a rush to get them a new contract and overpay ASAP.


People want to use the Bucks as an example of good management now? That has been one of the worst managed teams of the last 5 years. They are forced to bargain bin dive because they have royally screwed up their cap. A team with one of the top 3 players of the decade locked in and can't build a decent team around him.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#902 » by Thaddy » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:37 am

IQ with a career high 7 assists a game. His feel for the game is improving rapidly. He'll break out of his slump soon. By the the hot trio will have cooled down. He should still put together a career year.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#903 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:55 pm

Thaddy wrote:IQ with a career high 7 assists a game. His feel for the game is improving rapidly. He'll break out of his slump soon. By the the hot trio will have cooled down. He should still put together a career year.


He honestly isn't even slumping that badly. He's shooting 40% from 3 over the past 5 games. He's struggling a little inside the arc but that's pretty much all on his shots where he pulls up short of the RA. He's shooting 75% in the RA and like 25% from 3-10 (on the season), which is very far from his career average. He's going to be fine, and as you say, he's looking pretty good in a bunch of ways. And indeed, as he finds his touch, the timing will likely be as Scottie and RJ cool down a little, so it'll be perfect to have that extra little boost.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#904 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Nov 7, 2025 1:24 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:
Brinbe wrote:
Read on Twitter

This is something our front office won't appreciate. They'd be in a rush to get them a new contract and overpay ASAP.


People want to use the Bucks as an example of good management now? That has been one of the worst managed teams of the last 5 years. They are forced to bargain bin dive because they have royally screwed up their cap. A team with one of the top 3 players of the decade locked in and can't build a decent team around him.
yeah like that tweet is referencing a game that Giannis didn’t play in, and due to MIL’s mismanagement, those 3 guys had to put up a combined 43 shots and play 36, 32, and 21 minutes respectively.

People have this illusion that we overpay everyone immediately, and yet when you ask them to list out when we’ve given out bad contracts they seem to struggle to find examples. Especially Danger who spouts **** off a lot but never supports his position.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#905 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Nov 7, 2025 2:53 pm

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Thaddy wrote:IQ with a career high 7 assists a game. His feel for the game is improving rapidly. He'll break out of his slump soon. By the the hot trio will have cooled down. He should still put together a career year.


He honestly isn't even slumping that badly. He's shooting 40% from 3 over the past 5 games. He's struggling a little inside the arc but that's pretty much all on his shots where he pulls up short of the RA. He's shooting 75% in the RA and like 25% from 3-10 (on the season), which is very far from his career average. He's going to be fine, and as you say, he's looking pretty good in a bunch of ways. And indeed, as he finds his touch, the timing will likely be as Scottie and RJ cool down a little, so it'll be perfect to have that extra little boost.

And honestly what is he supposed to do? Tell Bi/SB/RJ who all have insane efficiency right now to let him jack up 15 shots?

I am almost positive there will be games and a point in time this year when those guys don't have it and IQ has a massive game.Through 8 games though and those 3 really haven't had an off-night yet, which is wild in its own right.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#906 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 3:06 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:And honestly what is he supposed to do? Tell Bi/SB/RJ who all have insane efficiency right now to let him jack up 15 shots?[/qoute]

Right. If anything, it's a positive sign that he isn't forcing the issue when we have all these other scoring options.

I am almost positive there will be games and a point in time this year when those guys don't have it and IQ has a massive game.Through 8 games though and those 3 really haven't had an off-night yet, which is wild in its own right.


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Post#907 » by Son Goku 25 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 3:50 pm

I'd rather be looking at ways to go after the next Lowry, Jrue if that means Cason Wallace or someone like that I'd slightly overpay.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#908 » by Thaddy » Fri Nov 7, 2025 7:45 pm

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Thaddy wrote:IQ with a career high 7 assists a game. His feel for the game is improving rapidly. He'll break out of his slump soon. By the the hot trio will have cooled down. He should still put together a career year.


He honestly isn't even slumping that badly. He's shooting 40% from 3 over the past 5 games. He's struggling a little inside the arc but that's pretty much all on his shots where he pulls up short of the RA. He's shooting 75% in the RA and like 25% from 3-10 (on the season), which is very far from his career average. He's going to be fine, and as you say, he's looking pretty good in a bunch of ways. And indeed, as he finds his touch, the timing will likely be as Scottie and RJ cool down a little, so it'll be perfect to have that extra little boost.

The biggest thing I'm down about is the volume. He was saying "I didn' shoot 10 3's a game?" Now it's at the point where he's shooting even less than last year despite playing more minutes. I want to see him getting open but I also blame his teammates. They need to find him more often and generate more three point looks from our known shooters.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#909 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 7:48 pm

Thaddy wrote:The biggest thing I'm down about is the volume. He was saying "I didn' shoot 10 3's a game?" Now it's at the point where he's shooting even less than last year despite playing more minutes. I want to see him getting open but I also blame his teammates. They need to find him more often and generate more three point looks from our known shooters.


I mean, the volume makes sense because RJ, Scottie and BI are taking primacy. I don't think there is blame to be had there. The guys who are shooting more are doing an excellent job, and we always knew that BI and Scottie were going to be ahead of him in the pecking order... and probably RJ, too. All of them are more dynamic threats, and it's more that we need Quick's shooting for spacing purposes than that we need volume scoring from him.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#910 » by lolwut » Fri Nov 7, 2025 7:58 pm

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Thaddy wrote:The biggest thing I'm down about is the volume. He was saying "I didn' shoot 10 3's a game?" Now it's at the point where he's shooting even less than last year despite playing more minutes. I want to see him getting open but I also blame his teammates. They need to find him more often and generate more three point looks from our known shooters.


I mean, the volume makes sense because RJ, Scottie and BI are taking primacy. I don't think there is blame to be had there. The guys who are shooting more are doing an excellent job, and we always knew that BI and Scottie were going to be ahead of him in the pecking order... and probably RJ, too. All of them are more dynamic threats, and it's more that we need Quick's shooting for spacing purposes than that we need volume scoring from him.

The team, overall, is shooting well right now, so I don't really care about the shot distribution. It makes no sense for the hot hands to give up shots to IQ just so he can take more warm up shots in real games.

If BI/SB/RJ are shooting poorly, then it makes sense to try something different. But they're not, so just ride the hot hands. It's also not as if BI/SB/RJ are forcing up ill-advised shots. They are all mostly open looks that they should be taking.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#911 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 8:28 pm

lolwut wrote:The team, overall, is shooting well right now, so I don't really care about the shot distribution. It makes no sense for the hot hands to give up shots to IQ just so he can take more warm up shots in real games.

If BI/SB/RJ are shooting poorly, then it makes sense to try something different. But they're not, so just ride the hot hands. It's also not as if BI/SB/RJ are forcing up ill-advised shots. They are all mostly open looks that they should be taking.


Yeah, I mean, if we start struggling, then it would make sense in a given game to try and see if IQ can mix it up and we can get more out of him. On average, I like our strategy so far. And once he starts hitting his short shots again, I feel like people will have a lot less to complain about, especially if the 3 keeps falling, you know?
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#912 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Nov 7, 2025 8:40 pm

bluerap23 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
Brinbe wrote:
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This is something our front office won't appreciate. They'd be in a rush to get them a new contract and overpay ASAP.


People want to use the Bucks as an example of good management now? That has been one of the worst managed teams of the last 5 years. They are forced to bargain bin dive because they have royally screwed up their cap. A team with one of the top 3 players of the decade locked in and can't build a decent team around him.


Look at who you're replying to, what did you expect?
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#913 » by ItsDanger » Fri Nov 7, 2025 11:25 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:This is something our front office won't appreciate. They'd be in a rush to get them a new contract and overpay ASAP.


People want to use the Bucks as an example of good management now? That has been one of the worst managed teams of the last 5 years. They are forced to bargain bin dive because they have royally screwed up their cap. A team with one of the top 3 players of the decade locked in and can't build a decent team around him.


Look at who you're replying to, what did you expect?

What a radical concept. Creating value with cheaper contracts. Something foreign here it seems.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#914 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 11:52 pm

Let's all stay on topic, folks. Don't make us have to annoy you by actually moderating, please.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#915 » by bluerap23 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 2:42 pm

Back on topic: we still haven't seen what this team is really about. The last 4 games have been really nice but a really long way to go to evaluate this starting 5. I was really impressed with Quick last night. He was good at both ends and was able to pick up the slack for the big 3 that were struggling early. This is an exciting season to see the team take a big step forward.
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