With the 4th Pick, the Raptors select Scottie Barnes! Part 2

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The Top Five Picks
Cade Cunningham, Pistons
Cunningham was every bit of what was expected given the constraints of what this event and what his team environment was. This is not the type of situation where he’s going to stand out as the best player, as it’s largely a transition show with a whole bunch of guys around who don’t quite have the processing speed of typical NBA players. The guys who stand out to the general viewer at summer league aren’t the ones who play the right way and do the functional things. They’re the dunkers, the crazy ballhandlers, the exciting players. Cunningham is a metronome of consistency, regularly making the right play at the expense of his own numbers.

Having said that, I thought he got the better of Jalen Green in their head-to-head matchup early in the event. I know Houston won the game, and I know Green scored more points. But most of Green’s positive moments came driving into the lane and getting fouled by poor defenders like Luka Garza or leaking out in transition, or losing dudes like Saben Lee and Killian Hayes off the ball. Cunningham’s moments in that game were a lot more translatable to critical NBA moments. He made a couple of self-created step-back 3s, played some killer defense on Green and generally did extremely well when he was allowed to make plays on the ball. Consistently, he made the correct basketball decision. His teammates didn’t always take advantage of his passes. The Pistons hit 3 for 26 from 3 in that game if you remove Cunningham’s attempts. Overall, Detroit made just 19 of 74 from 3 in the three games Cunningham played if you remove his attempts, which is about 25 percent. There were a lot of assists left on the table just with poor shot-making, but that doesn’t stop him from making the right reads. Be it to hit the hit-ahead pass in transition, or to swing the ball quickly to the next man on the perimeter to try to get a minor advantage, or little clear-outs in the lane to make sure his man has an easy runway for a layup, Cunningham proved what we knew: he impacts the game both with the ball and without it.

That skill to impact the game when he doesn’t have the ball likely led to the Pistons trying to play him more often off the ball. That is a mistake, and we’ve already got some warning signs here about how the Pistons are planning to utilize him. He played more as a wing than a lead guard at summer league, with the team getting Killian Hayes some reps at the lead guard spot. There were so many possessions where Cunningham just started in the corner. Honestly, it was pretty brutal to watch Cunningham sit in the corner for possessions at a time while Hayes dribbled around and tried to separate from his man at the top of the set. Given Hayes’ completely ineffective performance during the event, my bet is that the Pistons quickly figure out during the actual season that letting Hayes have the ball while giving Cunningham fewer opportunities to make reads and decisions doesn’t actually make the team better just because Hayes is more of an on-ball player and Cunningham has the capability of shifting off-ball. It’s better to let your best guys have the ball more often, even if Cunningham is unselfish enough to do whatever the team tells him.

Jalen Green, Rockets
Just because I thought Cunningham was a bit better than Green in their head-to-head doesn’t mean I thought Green had a poor outing in Vegas. Honestly, I thought he was great and did exactly what was expected of him. Unsurprisingly, his athleticism popped in a big way. He got where he wanted, and flashed the kind of pull-up game that made everyone extremely excited about him pre-draft.

He averaged over 20 points per game and shot over 50 percent both from the field and from 3. He’s so much more patient now than he was as a young player. Out of ball screens, he knows how to use his body to keep defenders on his hip in jail and unable to do anything to contest him already. But beyond that, if you give him any semblance of open space, he’s so fluid in the way he can get in and out of his inside-out dribbles and step-backs. He creates so much separation going backward, while also being able to explode very quickly moving forward. It’s an incredibly difficult combination of skills to stop in a spaced-out NBA court.

Given the Rockets’ situation, I would bet on him averaging 20 points as a rookie if I could. And that’s saying something, given that the only players to do that in the last decade as a rookie are Luka Doncic and Donovan Mitchell. Still, he is going to take some time in a few places that lead to wins. Teams had a relatively good amount of success blitzing him in ball-screens. While he’s a creative ballhandler, he can get a bit loose with it when flustered, which leads to some turnovers or him just purely needing to toss an escape pass. His defensive intensity will need to keep evolving, as will his ability to read the way defenses are playing him as a passer. But he absolutely passed the first test of summer league with flying colors, and should be on the verge of a terrific rookie season.

Evan Mobley, Cavaliers
In terms of what performance at summer league says about long-term potential, I think it means less for Mobley than it does for any of the top five prospects. He’s just so clearly not quite there yet physically, or strong enough to deal with this level of professional competition. Mobley is incredibly skilled, but his frame makes him more of a long-term project than any of the others. He got bullied inside at an unsurprising level and struggled a bit. On drives to the rim, players smaller than him had very few issues displacing him. It’s going to be tough for at least the first part of Mobley’s rookie season. The most important thing Mobley can do long-term is put on weight and get stronger. In some vein, this year will just be about getting him acclimated to that level of physicality.

But I don’t really think that matters, because once he gets stronger, we saw some of the flashes that make him one of the most intriguing big men on planet earth. There were multiple moments where Mobley, as a legitimate seven-footer with all sorts of length and dexterity, attacked closeouts from the corner with two dribbles, took off and dunked from, like, 10 feet away from the rim. He threw some impressive passes on the move, in addition to the passes we know he can make at the elbows and in dribble-hand-off actions. He made a few jumpers with a more fluid-looking shot from midrange than he had in college. Defensively, at least as much as one can at an all-offense event like summer league, he showed some of the mobility on the perimeter and instinctual awareness as a shot-blocker that the Cavaliers hoped they were drafting.

In terms of past performances from skinny bigs who were high draft picks at their first summer league, Mobley’s 11.3 points, eight rebounds and two blocks aren’t really all that different from guys like Jaren Jackson (11.2 points, eight rebounds, four blocks per game), Jonathan Isaac (10.3/8/1.7) and Kristaps Porzingis (10.5/3.3/1.7). All of those guys have turned out just fine for different reasons, and I’d anticipate the same with Mobley.

Scottie Barnes, Raptors
Barnes did what was largely anticipated of him in summer league, as well. He’s such a fun, energetic presence on the court. He brings it on both ends, and plays with great intent. Even at an event like this, he played so hard. He played every bit at the level that a top-10 pick should.

The problem is — unfair as it may be — he’s going to be compared for the rest of his career with the people taken around him in the top five. That’s the burden the Raptors put on him by selecting him over Jalen Suggs. Barnes has innate creativity that shines through, but he’s just much more of a project as a ballhandler and playmaker than the other players taken around him. He made some high-level reads as a passer on the move in the halfcourt. There were some positive moments getting to his spots as a scorer. He’s a freight train in transition because of his size. But they were much fewer and farther between than Cunningham, Green, and Suggs. He was much more comfortable out in transition as opposed to a halfcourt creator on the ball. He used his length at times to get to the rim, but just doesn’t quite have the handle yet to be able to consistently create when the game is more condensed.

On top of that, we continued to see many of the same concerns that Barnes displayed at Florida State in terms of scoring efficiency. He can’t shoot from distance yet, and he isn’t a natural finisher in the halfcourt. He made a couple of nice midrange shots that were self-created, but he also made only four of his 15 halfcourt jumper attempts overall. Barnes is going to be a good NBA player, and on some level you have to remove the context from which he was selected by the Raptors in order to evaluate him on his own merits. His performance was positive for a 20-year-old playing his first professional action. But the team used a top-five pick on him over the next guy we’re about to talk about, and every executive I talked to who attended summer league was absolutely effusive about praise for…

Jalen Suggs, Magic
Suggs was awesome. He was everything evaluators who loved him thought he was. The numbers may not look that different than Barnes’ (Suggs averaged 15.3 points, 6.3 rebounds and 2.3 assists) but remember that he went out after just 11 minutes in his third game due to a minor thumb injury that forced Orlando into shutting him down for the event.

It went beyond the numbers, though. The main thing worth noting with Suggs, though, is that a majority of his offense came perfectly within the run of halfcourt play, in translatable situations to NBA settings. He broke guys down off the bounce to get to the rim with skill and explosion. He hit catch-and-shoot jumpers and took advantage of mismatches both big and small. He made multiple pull-up 3s out of ball-screen actions that he’ll be asked to hit when defenders go under on him. And he was every bit the defender that Orlando thought it was getting when they drafted him, playing terrific on-ball and anticipatory off-ball defense. That included this play, where Suggs completely shut down a 2-on-1 transition opportunity by himself with a block and gathered his miss.

Suggs looked every bit the guy I thought he was pre-draft when I ranked him No. 2 overall. The Magic should hand over the keys to their offense to Suggs to start the year and let him grow through some of the eventual pains that’ll happen as a first-year player in the NBA. His upside is higher than anyone else’s on the roster, a legitimate potential All-Star who plays on both ends of the floor and can take over the game both as a scorer and as a passer.

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Scottie Barnes, Raptors
Barnes did what was largely anticipated of him in summer league, as well. He’s such a fun, energetic presence on the court. He brings it on both ends, and plays with great intent. Even at an event like this, he played so hard. He played every bit at the level that a top-10 pick should.

The problem is — unfair as it may be — he’s going to be compared for the rest of his career with the people taken around him in the top five. That’s the burden the Raptors put on him by selecting him over Jalen Suggs. Barnes has innate creativity that shines through, but he’s just much more of a project as a ballhandler and playmaker than the other players taken around him. He made some high-level reads as a passer on the move in the halfcourt. There were some positive moments getting to his spots as a scorer. He’s a freight train in transition because of his size. But they were much fewer and farther between than Cunningham, Green, and Suggs. He was much more comfortable out in transition as opposed to a halfcourt creator on the ball. He used his length at times to get to the rim, but just doesn’t quite have the handle yet to be able to consistently create when the game is more condensed.

On top of that, we continued to see many of the same concerns that Barnes displayed at Florida State in terms of scoring efficiency. He can’t shoot from distance yet, and he isn’t a natural finisher in the halfcourt. He made a couple of nice midrange shots that were self-created, but he also made only four of his 15 halfcourt jumper attempts overall. Barnes is going to be a good NBA player, and on some level you have to remove the context from which he was selected by the Raptors in order to evaluate him on his own merits. His performance was positive for a 20-year-old playing his first professional action. But the team used a top-five pick on him over the next guy we’re about to talk about, and every executive I talked to who attended summer league was absolutely effusive about praise for…

Jalen Suggs, Magic
Suggs was awesome. He was everything evaluators who loved him thought he was. The numbers may not look that different than Barnes’ (Suggs averaged 15.3 points, 6.3 rebounds and 2.3 assists) but remember that he went out after just 11 minutes in his third game due to a minor thumb injury that forced Orlando into shutting him down for the event.

It went beyond the numbers, though. The main thing worth noting with Suggs, though, is that a majority of his offense came perfectly within the run of halfcourt play, in translatable situations to NBA settings. He broke guys down off the bounce to get to the rim with skill and explosion. He hit catch-and-shoot jumpers and took advantage of mismatches both big and small. He made multiple pull-up 3s out of ball-screen actions that he’ll be asked to hit when defenders go under on him. And he was every bit the defender that Orlando thought it was getting when they drafted him, playing terrific on-ball and anticipatory off-ball defense. That included this play, where Suggs completely shut down a 2-on-1 transition opportunity by himself with a block and gathered his miss.

Suggs looked every bit the guy I thought he was pre-draft when I ranked him No. 2 overall. The Magic should hand over the keys to their offense to Suggs to start the year and let him grow through some of the eventual pains that’ll happen as a first-year player in the NBA. His upside is higher than anyone else’s on the roster, a legitimate potential All-Star who plays on both ends of the floor and can take over the game both as a scorer and as a passer.

Sorry but this irks me a bit...so lemme get this straight.

Scottie averages MORE points (15.5), more rebounds (6.7), more assists (3.3) more blocks (2.0) AND less turnovers BUT the narrative created is "Suggs was awesome....not so sure about Scottie though"

All I'll say is it's fairly convenient going into the draft when we're projected to take Suggs, the response is "Suggs isn't a clear top 4 pick" or "a clear tier below the other 3". Then when we take Barnes "oh I had Suggs 2nd" and despite Barnes beating him across the board "Suggs looks like star, Barnes idk" lol keep that same energy in a few years Murica...

[Hero_Panda]

The problem is — unfair as it may be — he’s going to be compared for the rest of his career with the people taken around him in the top five.

Errr, isn't that the problem with high draft picks? They'll always be compared to the other players drafted around them?
Are people going to stop comparing Cade to the other top 5 picks because he was a concensus #1 who was predictably drafted at #1?

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Spoiler:

If Dwight Howard was a point guard..

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Scottie working on his fadeaway

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Scottie Barnes, Raptors
Barnes did what was largely anticipated of him in summer league, as well. He’s such a fun, energetic presence on the court. He brings it on both ends, and plays with great intent. Even at an event like this, he played so hard. He played every bit at the level that a top-10 pick should.

The problem is — unfair as it may be — he’s going to be compared for the rest of his career with the people taken around him in the top five. That’s the burden the Raptors put on him by selecting him over Jalen Suggs. Barnes has innate creativity that shines through, but he’s just much more of a project as a ballhandler and playmaker than the other players taken around him. He made some high-level reads as a passer on the move in the halfcourt. There were some positive moments getting to his spots as a scorer. He’s a freight train in transition because of his size. But they were much fewer and farther between than Cunningham, Green, and Suggs. He was much more comfortable out in transition as opposed to a halfcourt creator on the ball. He used his length at times to get to the rim, but just doesn’t quite have the handle yet to be able to consistently create when the game is more condensed.

On top of that, we continued to see many of the same concerns that Barnes displayed at Florida State in terms of scoring efficiency. He can’t shoot from distance yet, and he isn’t a natural finisher in the halfcourt. He made a couple of nice midrange shots that were self-created, but he also made only four of his 15 halfcourt jumper attempts overall. Barnes is going to be a good NBA player, and on some level you have to remove the context from which he was selected by the Raptors in order to evaluate him on his own merits. His performance was positive for a 20-year-old playing his first professional action. But the team used a top-five pick on him over the next guy we’re about to talk about, and every executive I talked to who attended summer league was absolutely effusive about praise for…

Jalen Suggs, Magic
Suggs was awesome. He was everything evaluators who loved him thought he was. The numbers may not look that different than Barnes’ (Suggs averaged 15.3 points, 6.3 rebounds and 2.3 assists) but remember that he went out after just 11 minutes in his third game due to a minor thumb injury that forced Orlando into shutting him down for the event.

It went beyond the numbers, though. The main thing worth noting with Suggs, though, is that a majority of his offense came perfectly within the run of halfcourt play, in translatable situations to NBA settings. He broke guys down off the bounce to get to the rim with skill and explosion. He hit catch-and-shoot jumpers and took advantage of mismatches both big and small. He made multiple pull-up 3s out of ball-screen actions that he’ll be asked to hit when defenders go under on him. And he was every bit the defender that Orlando thought it was getting when they drafted him, playing terrific on-ball and anticipatory off-ball defense. That included this play, where Suggs completely shut down a 2-on-1 transition opportunity by himself with a block and gathered his miss.

Suggs looked every bit the guy I thought he was pre-draft when I ranked him No. 2 overall. The Magic should hand over the keys to their offense to Suggs to start the year and let him grow through some of the eventual pains that’ll happen as a first-year player in the NBA. His upside is higher than anyone else’s on the roster, a legitimate potential All-Star who plays on both ends of the floor and can take over the game both as a scorer and as a passer.

Sorry but this irks me a bit...so lemme get this straight.

Scottie averages MORE points (15.5), more rebounds (6.7), more assists (3.3) more blocks (2.0) AND less turnovers BUT the narrative created is "Suggs was awesome....not so sure about Scottie though"

All I'll say is it's fairly convenient going into the draft when we're projected to take Suggs, the response is "Suggs isn't a clear top 4 pick" or "a clear tier below the other 3". Then when we take Barnes "oh I had Suggs 2nd" and despite Barnes beating him across the board "Suggs looks like star, Barnes idk" lol keep that same energy in a few years Murica...

This is basically Vecenie trying to justify having Suggs #2 on his board and wanting to be right.
There is a reason why these guys don't have jobs on teams. Both players will be good, but he's acting like there was a huge difference between them.

[Reeko]

His greatest ceiling is something like Kawhi. Another ceiling I can see for him is being a bigger Jimmy Butler, that's if he never really learns how to shoot the 3 consistently.

[alpngso]

I mean Suggs looked better than Barnes in terms of shooting. And are we really comparing guards' block and rebound numbers to forwards'?

Hope is that Barnes will work at his shooting before the training camp and shows up improved. Liked what i saw from SL. Shot is not good but fixable.

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Sorry but this irks me a bit...so lemme get this straight.

Scottie averages MORE points (15.5), more rebounds (6.7), more assists (3.3) more blocks (2.0) AND less turnovers BUT the narrative created is "Suggs was awesome....not so sure about Scottie though"

All I'll say is it's fairly convenient going into the draft when we're projected to take Suggs, the response is "Suggs isn't a clear top 4 pick" or "a clear tier below the other 3". Then when we take Barnes "oh I had Suggs 2nd" and despite Barnes beating him across the board "Suggs looks like star, Barnes idk" lol keep that same energy in a few years Murica...

This is basically Vecenie trying to justify having Suggs #2 on his board and wanting to be right.
There is a reason why these guys don't have jobs on teams. Both players will be good, but he's acting like there was a huge difference between them.

Barnes and Suggs shot very similar %s from the field. That isn't a good thing for Suggs since he's supposed to be the more polished offensive player.

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Pre-draft this guy was all Barnes > Suggs, now when Barnes arguably outplayed Suggs in SL, it's Suggs > Barnes? What a clown. He's obviously just doing this for clicks.

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Damn, Scottie looks hella jacked in the 1st photo.

I don't understand why people keep saying he needs to add 15-20 pounds. He doesn't need to add ****.

[scuervo1]

If Suggs doesn't slow down a little bit I can see him having a lot of injuries throughout his career. Just from the eye test I would describe the way he moves on the court as "erratic".

[pingpongrac]

I mean Suggs looked better than Barnes in terms of shooting. And are we really comparing guards' block and rebound numbers to forwards'?

Hope is that Barnes will work at his shooting before the training camp and shows up improved. Liked what i saw from SL. Shot is not good but fixable.

So it's not fair to make a comparison between Barnes and Suggs when it benefits Barnes, but it's fair to compare their shooting numbers when that has clearly been Barnes' biggest question mark? Makes sense.

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Damn, Scottie looks hella jacked in the 1st photo.

I don't understand why people keep saying he needs to add 15-20 pounds. He doesn't need to add ****.

He doesnt need to add anything, its just usually players and people naturally fill out as they age. Him staying the same exact mass his entire career isnt an issue.

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Scottie working on his fadeaway

Not a terrible idea. He’s going to have a lot of mismatches where he can overpower guys. A little post game, hooks, etc. will come easier than distance shooting to start.

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"If he's able to become a more competent 3 point shooter at any point in his career...we're talking one of the best players in the game." A discussion about Scottie Barnes on the Ringer.

If Scottie Barnes get a a consistent 3 in the .350 plus range and being a 2 way triple double threat he's a future Hall of Famer and potentially one of the best to Eve play the game, that's this kids potential. Will he reach it, well ask our selves 5 years from now.

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Scottie Barnes, Raptors
Barnes did what was largely anticipated of him in summer league, as well. He’s such a fun, energetic presence on the court. He brings it on both ends, and plays with great intent. Even at an event like this, he played so hard. He played every bit at the level that a top-10 pick should.

The problem is — unfair as it may be — he’s going to be compared for the rest of his career with the people taken around him in the top five. That’s the burden the Raptors put on him by selecting him over Jalen Suggs. Barnes has innate creativity that shines through, but he’s just much more of a project as a ballhandler and playmaker than the other players taken around him. He made some high-level reads as a passer on the move in the halfcourt. There were some positive moments getting to his spots as a scorer. He’s a freight train in transition because of his size. But they were much fewer and farther between than Cunningham, Green, and Suggs. He was much more comfortable out in transition as opposed to a halfcourt creator on the ball. He used his length at times to get to the rim, but just doesn’t quite have the handle yet to be able to consistently create when the game is more condensed.

On top of that, we continued to see many of the same concerns that Barnes displayed at Florida State in terms of scoring efficiency. He can’t shoot from distance yet, and he isn’t a natural finisher in the halfcourt. He made a couple of nice midrange shots that were self-created, but he also made only four of his 15 halfcourt jumper attempts overall. Barnes is going to be a good NBA player, and on some level you have to remove the context from which he was selected by the Raptors in order to evaluate him on his own merits. His performance was positive for a 20-year-old playing his first professional action. But the team used a top-five pick on him over the next guy we’re about to talk about, and every executive I talked to who attended summer league was absolutely effusive about praise for…

Jalen Suggs, Magic
Suggs was awesome. He was everything evaluators who loved him thought he was. The numbers may not look that different than Barnes’ (Suggs averaged 15.3 points, 6.3 rebounds and 2.3 assists) but remember that he went out after just 11 minutes in his third game due to a minor thumb injury that forced Orlando into shutting him down for the event.

It went beyond the numbers, though. The main thing worth noting with Suggs, though, is that a majority of his offense came perfectly within the run of halfcourt play, in translatable situations to NBA settings. He broke guys down off the bounce to get to the rim with skill and explosion. He hit catch-and-shoot jumpers and took advantage of mismatches both big and small. He made multiple pull-up 3s out of ball-screen actions that he’ll be asked to hit when defenders go under on him. And he was every bit the defender that Orlando thought it was getting when they drafted him, playing terrific on-ball and anticipatory off-ball defense. That included this play, where Suggs completely shut down a 2-on-1 transition opportunity by himself with a block and gathered his miss.

Suggs looked every bit the guy I thought he was pre-draft when I ranked him No. 2 overall. The Magic should hand over the keys to their offense to Suggs to start the year and let him grow through some of the eventual pains that’ll happen as a first-year player in the NBA. His upside is higher than anyone else’s on the roster, a legitimate potential All-Star who plays on both ends of the floor and can take over the game both as a scorer and as a passer.

Sorry but this irks me a bit...so lemme get this straight.

Scottie averages MORE points (15.5), more rebounds (6.7), more assists (3.3) more blocks (2.0) AND less turnovers BUT the narrative created is "Suggs was awesome....not so sure about Scottie though"

All I'll say is it's fairly convenient going into the draft when we're projected to take Suggs, the response is "Suggs isn't a clear top 4 pick" or "a clear tier below the other 3". Then when we take Barnes "oh I had Suggs 2nd" and despite Barnes beating him across the board "Suggs looks like star, Barnes idk" lol keep that same energy in a few years Murica...

Vecenie did have Suggs second on his big board and did have skepticism of Scottie before the draft. If anything he's been consistent with his assessments. Summer League shouldn't define whether a prospect is better due to sample size and it's Summer League. I wouldn't start comparing Scottie to the other players in his draft class until year 3 were would should start to see some real gains in his development.

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[LBJKB24MJ23]

I hope its something like the Carter / Jamison draft night. Carter and Jamison both had solid careers: Jamison the career solid role player guy and Carter was the superstar talent. I could something similar in these two - if Barnes puts it all together he's obv a superstar talent, Suggs - a point guard in the L, probably solid high end role player/ all star type of guy.