2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[billy_hoyle]

Any interest in Nurkic and a Norm God reunion.

Portland is spinning the drain.

Dragic, Boucher, Flynn and a 2023 1st* out. (*Converts to two seconds if Nurkic doesn't resign).

Powell and Nurkic in.

Nurkic
Siakam, Precious (4/5)
OG, Barnes (1-5)
GTJ, Norm (2/3)
FVV

Non FVV lineups should always contain Norm and Barnes/Siakam.

Depth pieces are better placed (Yuta, Svi, Banton, Birch) to plug into the injury holes as needed.

Still maintain our 1st this year.

I don't see the point in this trade. I don't think I want the back end of Norm's new deal as much as I like him and by taking his deal on we can't afford to resign Nurkic. Also add to that that Portland would only make this trade if they were breaking up the team and selling off all their parts including Dame.

Sorry, I thought it was obvious that this hypothetical only happens if Portland decides to blow it up (incl. Lillard and McCollum).

Get Nurkic's bird rights. Can resign and exceed the cap.
Norm God is 28. In the last year of his deal he will be the same age as DeRozan is this year. In 2025-26 Norms deal is going to be a bargain based on Cap going up.

We need to manoeuvre our expirings (Boucher and Dragic) into players that are under contract going forward, we already have our core making money (FVV, Siakam, OG and GTJ). These guys are at like $110m if we are lucky and they don't opt out in 2023-24.

We don't have cap space...

[Madhouse]

TOR Trades - Siakam, VanVleet, Boucher + 4 unprotected 1st (2022, 2024, 2026, 2028)

CLE Trades - Mobley, Love, Rubio

Toronto builds around a Mobley, Barnes, Trent Jr., OG core.

I would trade everyone except Barnes for Mobley but obviously not happening lol

[Ell Curry]

I could see the Pacers trying to open up cap space by trading us Dragic for Levert and then moving Justin Holiday and/or Torrey Craig to teams for a UFA, maybe Kevin Knox on the Knicks, or Thomas Bryant on the Wizards or Tristan Thompson on the Kings. They would get up to 25M in cap space with moves like that and be able to sign or trade for the starting 3 they need.

[Zeno]

Any interest in Nurkic and a Norm God reunion.

Portland is spinning the drain.

Dragic, Boucher, Flynn and a 2023 1st* out. (*Converts to two seconds if Nurkic doesn't resign).

Powell and Nurkic in.

Nurkic
Siakam, Precious (4/5)
OG, Barnes (1-5)
GTJ, Norm (2/3)
FVV

Non FVV lineups should always contain Norm and Barnes/Siakam.

Depth pieces are better placed (Yuta, Svi, Banton, Birch) to plug into the injury holes as needed.

Still maintain our 1st this year.

I don't see the point in this trade. I don't think I want the back end of Norm's new deal as much as I like him and by taking his deal on we can't afford to resign Nurkic. Also add to that that Portland would only make this trade if they were breaking up the team and selling off all their parts including Dame.

Sorry, I thought it was obvious that this hypothetical only happens if Portland decides to blow it up (incl. Lillard and McCollum).

Get Nurkic's bird rights. Can resign and exceed the cap.
Norm God is 28. In the last year of his deal he will be the same age as DeRozan is this year. In 2025-26 Norms deal is going to be a bargain based on Cap going up.

We need to manoeuvre our expirings (Boucher and Dragic) into players that are under contract going forward, we already have our core making money (FVV, Siakam, OG and GTJ). These guys are at like $110m if we are lucky and they don't opt out in 2023-24.

We don't have cap space...

Sorry for not explaining myself very well. When I said we wouldn’t have money to resign Nurkic, I meant under the tax. We’d be heading pretty far over the tax with this and it doesn’t seem worth doing that for the team that would result in my opinion.

[rapsincr]

i wonder what it would take to grab christian wood right now?

[billy_hoyle]

I don't see the point in this trade. I don't think I want the back end of Norm's new deal as much as I like him and by taking his deal on we can't afford to resign Nurkic. Also add to that that Portland would only make this trade if they were breaking up the team and selling off all their parts including Dame.

Sorry, I thought it was obvious that this hypothetical only happens if Portland decides to blow it up (incl. Lillard and McCollum).

Get Nurkic's bird rights. Can resign and exceed the cap.
Norm God is 28. In the last year of his deal he will be the same age as DeRozan is this year. In 2025-26 Norms deal is going to be a bargain based on Cap going up.

We need to manoeuvre our expirings (Boucher and Dragic) into players that are under contract going forward, we already have our core making money (FVV, Siakam, OG and GTJ). These guys are at like $110m if we are lucky and they don't opt out in 2023-24.

We don't have cap space...

Sorry for not explaining myself very well. When I said we wouldn’t have money to resign Nurkic, I meant under the tax. We’d be heading pretty far over the tax with this and it doesn’t seem worth doing that for the team that would result in my opinion.

Fair enough. I think the team is 1. decidedly better and more balanced, 2. has more tradeable assets.

I don't consider the tax to be that much of a deterrent tbh. Basically most title contending teams are over the tax right?...or will go over the tax retaining their championship talent

You pay to play (for a chip).

[wegotthabeet]

i wonder what it would take to grab christian wood right now?

I think Houston could be convinced to move Wood for a protected FRP and a salary dump.

TOR trades - Dragic - Boucher - Flynn + FRP (either 2022 or 2023 lotto protected ideally).

HOU trades - Wood & Gordon (cuts Dragic)

Toronto might need to add another piece like Yuta or Precious, maybe less protection on the pick as well like top 10 protected. Houston saves a lot of salary and I think it pushes the Raptors slightly above the tax this season and maybe even next year too, depends on a few factors.

Vanvleet - Banton
Anunoby - Gordon
Barnes - Trent Jr.
Siakam - Yuta
Wood - Birch

That's a pretty solid 10 man rotation. The bench would be greatly improved. Probably not the type of move they make though.

[wegotthabeet]

TOR Trades - Siakam, VanVleet, Boucher + 4 unprotected 1st (2022, 2024, 2026, 2028)

CLE Trades - Mobley, Love, Rubio

Toronto builds around a Mobley, Barnes, Trent Jr., OG core.

I would trade everyone except Barnes for Mobley but obviously not happening lol

Yeah I think that's pretty obvious. Mobley & Barnes would be amazing, but has a 0% chance of happening.

[wegotthabeet]

TOR Trades - Siakam, VanVleet, Boucher + 4 unprotected 1st (2022, 2024, 2026, 2028)

CLE Trades - Mobley, Love, Rubio

Toronto builds around a Mobley, Barnes, Trent Jr., OG core.

say no to drugs kids

If you took this post seriously then you might be the one on drugs.

[Morris_Shatford]

I could see the Pacers trying to open up cap space by trading us Dragic for Levert and then moving Justin Holiday and/or Torrey Craig to teams for a UFA, maybe Kevin Knox on the Knicks, or Thomas Bryant on the Wizards or Tristan Thompson on the Kings. They would get up to 25M in cap space with moves like that and be able to sign or trade for the starting 3 they need.

LeVerts value is tough to calculate (especially given his recent play);

Ultimately he is an injury prone volume shooter BUT he need some offense off the bench and we need to add some salary to next seasons payroll to assure we have the ability to use the MLE and sign our FRP but have bigger expirings that we can move if need be.

Assuming Boucher is not retained (or not for the same salary) even having LeVert on the books should allow us to do all the things we need to by way of the MLE and still stay under the tax.

Its not ideal, I would sooner take on a similar contract with some compensation along with it for taking on next years salary for player X but if its the best that can be done, I don't hate it.

[sogood]

TOR Trades - Siakam, VanVleet, Boucher + 4 unprotected 1st (2022, 2024, 2026, 2028)

CLE Trades - Mobley, Love, Rubio

Toronto builds around a Mobley, Barnes, Trent Jr., OG core.

say no to drugs kids

If you took this post seriously then you might be the one on drugs.

The old "my proposal is getting trashed, better say I wasn't serious".

[wegotthabeet]

say no to drugs kids

If you took this post seriously then you might be the one on drugs.

The old "my proposal is getting trashed, better say I wasn't serious".

yeah 'cause teams trade generational talents on rookie deals for Fred Vanvleet.

[Dalek]

My favorite current player who should be a Raptor is Kenrich Williams. Love his game as he can defend a bunch of positions, can shoot and know when to cut on offense and just ups your team's IQ. I am sure Zach Lowe will have him as one of his Luke Walton All-Stars.

He is just great every time I watch OKC.

Plus, the hair:

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[agkagk]

i wonder what it would take to grab christian wood right now?

Less now.

Too bad we match up well with the rockets on this one.

They’ll probably want a first plus a recent first rounder that’s shown something already.

Memphis might be a good fit for example.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Still want Mo Bamba for a second if they can't get any other offers for him

[Raptorfan2012]

Christian Wood seems like the type of player that puts up stats on a losing team. Can he guard multiple positions? That is a must to be part of our core.

[Asif16]

Need some bench scoring. Eric Gordon or Lavert would be nice off the bench

[LoveMyRaps]

Tyus Jones remains on my wish list. Exactly the type of player we need coming off the bench right now.

[Rapsfan07]

Need some bench scoring. Eric Gordon or Lavert would be nice off the bench

Something around Dragic for Levert could be good for everyone

[Morris_Shatford]

Still want Mo Bamba for a second if they can't get any other offers for him

If Orlando decides at the deadline they don't want to pay Isaacs, WCJ, and Bamba all eight figures next season and all they want is a salary match and a 2nd I would happily take the flyer.

Boucher is close enough salary wise to make that work.

My concern is someone is going to overpay for him near the deadline if he is moved.