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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#921 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:35 pm

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Crives wrote:
Read on Twitter
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This kind of stuff on social media strikes me as very immature tbh.
The Raps are still paying you man. Act like a pro.


The Raptors can run his name in trade rumours while paying him, too. As long as he plays hard when the lights go on I don't care, and if he wants out the Raptors can send him on his way via trade or let him walk.

Kawhi was actively recruiting guys to go join him in LA while he was competing against for us during the playoffs. We can hate this all we want, but that's the way it is.
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Post#922 » by Zeno » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:38 pm

Fred, OG, Khem, Thad
for
Ayton, Cam, Crowder and 2-1sts

Crowder to highest bidder.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#923 » by mihaic » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:40 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Sandman88 wrote:
HangTime wrote:If Myles Turner is trade eligible,

Maybe There's a three team trade where the main pieces are:

Raptors get Turner
Pacers get Ayton
Suns gets Fred

Then you can fill in gaps.

Pritchard and Carlisle already shut that down. Turner is staying in Indy


Ayton cannot legally be traded to Indiana this year due to Phoenix matching the offer sheet


But it is us trading him to Pacers as there are 2 separate trades. I read somewhere it is allowed (this was a few years ago though, so maybe that loophole was removed)
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#924 » by DonDoolie » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:45 pm

Someone explain the FVV picture to me because my brain is not working right now. Thanks.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#925 » by Fairview4Life » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:50 pm

I think that's Devin Booker.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#926 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:52 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
mg wrote:
Crives wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=O57LliZi-qZYxUDBCMkqJA


This kind of stuff on social media strikes me as very immature tbh.
The Raps are still paying you man. Act like a pro.


"Leadership"


Ayton and CamJo for FVV and OG. We'll throw in this year's pick.....that work for you guys?
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Post#927 » by HumbleRen » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:54 pm

This FO is so cooked if we trade OG and GTJ and not FVV and Siakam.
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Post#928 » by Dalek » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:55 pm

Zeno wrote:Fred, OG, Khem, Thad
for
Ayton, Cam, Crowder and 2-1sts

Crowder to highest bidder.


I have seen a lot of internet traffic about the Suns getting both OG and Fred. Nothing wrong with that but to target Ayton, and to further hear that Toronto has fans of DA in the front office further confirms how incompetent this management really is.

I am all for a smart tanking strategy where you acquire picks and young prospects, but DA is a max contract player playing with the best pick and roll PG in the NBA. His somewhat mediocre #s for a max player are inflated by Chris Paul. If we trade away Fred, we have no PG to get the ball to Ayton. We also would have to overhaul the defensive scheme. This is a player benched in the playoffs due to his defense.

Phoenix has about 8 picks so let's focus on that plus find a third team to get a viable young player or two, like the Utah Jazz (Colin Sexton, Vanderbilt). Let's not start a new era with even more flaws than before.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#929 » by douggood » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:58 pm

Dalek wrote:
Zeno wrote:Fred, OG, Khem, Thad
for
Ayton, Cam, Crowder and 2-1sts

Crowder to highest bidder.


I have seen a lot of internet traffic about the Suns getting both OG and Fred. Nothing wrong with that but to target Ayton, and to further hear that Toronto has fans of DA in the front office further confirms how incompetent this management really is.

I am all for a smart tanking strategy where you acquire picks and young prospects, but DA is a max contract player playing with the best pick and roll PG in the NBA. His somewhat mediocre #s for a max player are inflated by Chris Paul. If we trade away Fred, we have no PG to get the ball to Ayton. We also would have to overhaul the defensive scheme. This is a player benched in the playoffs due to his defense.

Phoenix has about 8 picks so let's focus on that plus find a third team to get a viable young player or two, like the Utah Jazz (Colin Sexton, Vanderbilt). Let's not start a new era with even more flaws than before.

Deandre Ayton has averaged 17.3 points, 10.6 rebounds and 1.9 assists in 143 games without Chris Paul in his career. fg% 58.4%

Deandre Ayton has averaged 15.7 points, 10.3 rebounds and 1.5 assists in 136 games with Chris Paul in his career. fg% 60.7%
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#930 » by Los_29 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:58 pm

Dalek wrote:
Zeno wrote:Fred, OG, Khem, Thad
for
Ayton, Cam, Crowder and 2-1sts

Crowder to highest bidder.


I have seen a lot of internet traffic about the Suns getting both OG and Fred. Nothing wrong with that but to target Ayton, and to further hear that Toronto has fans of DA in the front office further confirms how incompetent this management really is.

I am all for a smart tanking strategy where you acquire picks and young prospects, but DA is a max contract player playing with the best pick and roll PG in the NBA. His somewhat mediocre #s for a max player are inflated by Chris Paul. If we trade away Fred, we have no PG to get the ball to Ayton. We also would have to overhaul the defensive scheme. This is a player benched in the playoffs due to his defense.

Phoenix has about 8 picks so let's focus on that plus find a third team to get a viable young player or two, like the Utah Jazz (Colin Sexton, Vanderbilt). Let's not start a new era with even more flaws than before.


Who is incompetent? Suns front office or the Raptors?

And Ayton's numbers are better without CP3. lol.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#931 » by Zeno » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:58 pm

HumbleRen wrote:This FO is so cooked if we trade OG and GTJ and not FVV and Siakam.

It is looking to me like OG, Fred traded. Trent resigned in offseason, Pascal possibly moved in off-season as teams gain access to all their future picks (like Washington, Chicago and Dallas)

That is my prediction.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#932 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:00 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
mg wrote:
This kind of stuff on social media strikes me as very immature tbh.
The Raps are still paying you man. Act like a pro.


"Leadership"


Ayton and CamJo for FVV and OG. We'll throw in this year's pick.....that work for you guys?

You get the 2 better players lol

I wouldn't even trade Bo Cruz for Ayton
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#933 » by positivetension » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:00 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
positivetension wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:What would it take to get Mathurin? OG plus?

Why would Indiana trade their stud rookie when they are rebuilding?


It's like asking us to trade Barnes. People should learn to value other teams young players as you do your own lol.

Agreed but it's also worth considering where a team is at as well. Indiana isn't competing or contending so they'd have no motivation to part with Mathurin unless it's a slam dunk deal.

Moving Barnes for KD in the Summer might have made sense if they didn't have to gut the roster to make salaries work.

I'm still low-key hoping that Masai finds a way to acquire Mobley since the Cavs are all-in at this point.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#934 » by Syd-TK3 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:00 pm

HumbleRen wrote:This FO is so cooked if we trade OG and GTJ and not FVV and Siakam.

I'm okay with OG and Fvv
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Post#935 » by SurgeIblocka » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:01 pm

Which player is going to pass to Ayton to set him up for his interior plays he is use to with CP3, if Fred is gone. Also Ayton will occupy so much of the paint that it is going to hinder Barnes development. We need a stretch 5, not Ayton, Pascal and Barnes vying for interior space
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#936 » by tdotrep2 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:01 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
mg wrote:
This kind of stuff on social media strikes me as very immature tbh.
The Raps are still paying you man. Act like a pro.


"Leadership"


Ayton and CamJo for FVV and OG. We'll throw in this year's pick.....that work for you guys?

og vs ayton whos more valuable, fvv vs cam whos more valuable?
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Post#937 » by Syd-TK3 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:01 pm

Everyone please stop doing mock trades that involve us getting Ayton he can stay in phx
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#938 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:05 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
"Leadership"


Ayton and CamJo for FVV and OG. We'll throw in this year's pick.....that work for you guys?

og vs ayton whos more valuable, fvv vs cam whos more valuable?


That's why I gave you a pick. Covers the difference in value imo



FVV and OG will be VERY expensive very soon and/or FVV will leave in the summer for nothing.
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Post#939 » by SurgeIblocka » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:06 pm

This management didnt move all in for KD or Donovan, but they plan on trading two of their biggest assets in Fred and OG for Ayton and Cam. Just wow , the MlSE board needs to fire this group if that actually happens. I’d rather lose Fred and OG in free agency than pay 30 Mil + to a one dimensional center in Ayton.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#940 » by Dalek » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:08 pm

Los_29 wrote:
Dalek wrote:
Zeno wrote:Fred, OG, Khem, Thad
for
Ayton, Cam, Crowder and 2-1sts

Crowder to highest bidder.


I have seen a lot of internet traffic about the Suns getting both OG and Fred. Nothing wrong with that but to target Ayton, and to further hear that Toronto has fans of DA in the front office further confirms how incompetent this management really is.

I am all for a smart tanking strategy where you acquire picks and young prospects, but DA is a max contract player playing with the best pick and roll PG in the NBA. His somewhat mediocre #s for a max player are inflated by Chris Paul. If we trade away Fred, we have no PG to get the ball to Ayton. We also would have to overhaul the defensive scheme. This is a player benched in the playoffs due to his defense.

Phoenix has about 8 picks so let's focus on that plus find a third team to get a viable young player or two, like the Utah Jazz (Colin Sexton, Vanderbilt). Let's not start a new era with even more flaws than before.


Who is incompetent? Suns front office or the Raptors?

And Ayton's numbers are better without CP3. lol.


Raptors front office would be, since Ayton is a drop big with limited shooting range and has a history of giving up. His coach even called him out on that.

I'd have to look at how many games he played without CP3 and who the opponent was, but Ayton is not the most advanced scorer. We all just watched him do his lazy backdown and hookshot. He is as basic as it comes. CP3 or even Book get him the ball in optimal spots.

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