2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

[BoyzNTheHood]

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Troy Weaver’s making excuses already smh

[TheFutureMM]

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I feel like this would be a frustrating draft to have a Top 10 pick but an exciting one to have a pick anywhere between 11 - 30.

Just feels like the field is so wide open - whoever finds talent here should be credited 100% because I agree, no one in the top 10 excites me as an all-star level player.

[ArthurVandelay]

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Troy Weaver’s making excuses already smh

lol

Yeah Troy, this is not the draft that gets you canned.

[WuTang_CMB]

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Ya, he's going to nab them at #6 and #17. Maybe trade out of the #31 for a future 2nd pick?

Reed Sheppard and Ulrich Chomche!

Wouldn't Reed at least be a 3 inches taller FVV? That would be a more than once allstar, no?

I'm all about swinging for the fences. If Dink Pate is able to declare, then I would take him with the Pacers pick. He just turned 18 last month. He does look 6'8 and be a jumbo creator. Expectedly he doesn't shoot the NBA distance 3 that well yet but looks like he'll be at least average at that. With 3.8 ast and 2.5 to's, he's already able to put up an A/T over 1.5. Looks like at least a taller Dyson Daniels. Maybe a Shaun Livingston?

[Dalek]

This thread is hilarious. On the same page a post about how this is the worst draft ever and then you have Masai saying there is likely two all-stars. Masai seems like he has lost touch. Man is a board member and no longer a scout.

[TimeForChange]

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I feel like this would be a frustrating draft to have a Top 10 pick but an exciting one to have a pick anywhere between 11 - 30.

Just feels like the field is so wide open - whoever finds talent here should be credited 100% because I agree, no one in the top 10 excites me as an all-star level player.

yep the pacers pick is all the raptors need.

need to convey that first pick.

[positivetension]

This thread is hilarious. On the same page a post about how this is the worst draft ever and then you have Masai saying there is likely two all-stars. Masai seems like he has lost touch. Man is a board member and no longer a scout.

Masai vs an anonymous GM. I'd bet on Masai. Weak drafts have talent, it's just easier to strikeout.

edit: also draft narratives often end up being untrue. Barnes draft was a "top 4 heavy draft" with a supposed talent gap after Cunningham, Mobley, Green and Suggs. Barnes is looking like the best player from that cohort and Wagner/Sengun/Johnson show that the narrative was garbage.

[BoyzNTheHood]

This thread is hilarious. On the same page a post about how this is the worst draft ever and then you have Masai saying there is likely two all-stars. Masai seems like he has lost touch. Man is a board member and no longer a scout.

Masai has lost touch because some random coward wants to downplay the talent in the draft because they’re scared of looking like a fool?

[deeps6x]

I just ran the draft simulator. https://fanspo.com/nba/draft-lottery-simulator

We got first and the Spurs got 8th. Do you think there would be any chance in this situation where they would trade back our pick and #8 for #1?

[OakleyDokely]

This thread is hilarious. On the same page a post about how this is the worst draft ever and then you have Masai saying there is likely two all-stars. Masai seems like he has lost touch. Man is a board member and no longer a scout.

Almost every draft produces at least 2-3 allstars regardless of quality.

The very best drafts have those obvious stars at the very top of the draft. This draft doesn't have those obvious stars at the top, so scouting and developing is a lot more important because those stars might be found 13th and 27th this year.

[Rapsfan07]

At #17 we should be looking at Devin Carter or Kel'el Ware. If these guys were taken earlier then the pick should be Isaiah Collier.

I would really, REALLY love if Holmes was available at #31..would have been a much better use of the pick than Agbaji but whatever. guess at that point, you might as well take a chance on Dunn or something. There really isn't anyone that late that I see has a shot a longevity in the league, much less stardom - though of course, I'd love to be wrong about that.

Stay away from Chomche. IIRC, his latest measurements had him at 6'8.

Still a lot more left to sort out before I can say definitively who I'd take if we keep the pick but as of this moment, I think Dillingham is going to be really good but we already have Quickley and I'm not sure Dillingham is going to be better than him. Other than that, I don't really like the top of this draft either. Holland could be interesting in a move down scenario, maybe Cody Williams as well?

I like the way you are thinking. I really like a combo of Devin Carter and either Ware or Holmes. Gives us good depth without risk. Holmes to me is plug and play into the bench. Ware has a bit more upside and I would be surprised if he survived to 31.

If we get 6 or higher we can gamble a bit on a 18-19 year old but after that we need to get rotation guys. We already have too much inexperience.

Correct. This is my thinking exactly.

As of this moment, there isn't a guy in this draft that I feel good about projecting to be a star so instead I prefer to draft guys who have high potential to contribute reasonably quickly, reasonably well and for a good length of time - preferably at positions of need if at all possible.

Just so happens that at least one Carter, Ware and Holmes will be available at #17. I agree that Holmes is unlikely to be there at #31 so if we want him, we'll probably need to acquire another pick, which I can't see Masai doing since he traded a pick in that range earlier this season. Still, I hope we can walk away with Holmes somehow. If any of these guys become stars, it's icing on the cake but if all we're getting are role players that's still good value as well.

[Rapsfan07]

I just ran the draft simulator. https://fanspo.com/nba/draft-lottery-simulator

We got first and the Spurs got 8th. Do you think there would be any chance in this situation where they would trade back our pick and #8 for #1?

I think the Spurs would entertain it, depending on how the next few months go around Sarr. Sarr and Wemby frontcourt might be the best in the NBA for the next decade or so.

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I just ran the draft simulator. https://fanspo.com/nba/draft-lottery-simulator

We got first and the Spurs got 8th. Do you think there would be any chance in this situation where they would trade back our pick and #8 for #1?

Is Wemby friends with Sarr?

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At #17 we should be looking at Devin Carter or Kel'el Ware. If these guys were taken earlier then the pick should be Isaiah Collier.

I would really, REALLY love if Holmes was available at #31..would have been a much better use of the pick than Agbaji but whatever. guess at that point, you might as well take a chance on Dunn or something. There really isn't anyone that late that I see has a shot a longevity in the league, much less stardom - though of course, I'd love to be wrong about that.

Stay away from Chomche. IIRC, his latest measurements had him at 6'8.

Still a lot more left to sort out before I can say definitively who I'd take if we keep the pick but as of this moment, I think Dillingham is going to be really good but we already have Quickley and I'm not sure Dillingham is going to be better than him. Other than that, I don't really like the top of this draft either. Holland could be interesting in a move down scenario, maybe Cody Williams as well?

I like the way you are thinking. I really like a combo of Devin Carter and either Ware or Holmes. Gives us good depth without risk. Holmes to me is plug and play into the bench. Ware has a bit more upside and I would be surprised if he survived to 31.

If we get 6 or higher we can gamble a bit on a 18-19 year old but after that we need to get rotation guys. We already have too much inexperience.

Correct. This is my thinking exactly.

As of this moment, there isn't a guy in this draft that I feel good about projecting to be a star so instead I prefer to draft guys who have high potential to contribute reasonably quickly, reasonably well and for a good length of time - preferably at positions of need if at all possible.

Just so happens that at least one Carter, Ware and Holmes will be available at #17. I agree that Holmes is unlikely to be there at #31 so if we want him, we'll probably need to acquire another pick, which I can't see Masai doing since he traded a pick in that range earlier this season. Still, I hope we can walk away with Holmes somehow. If any of these guys become stars, it's icing on the cake but if all we're getting are role players that's still good value as well.

Holmes looks like Naz Reid. I guess he has a fairly high floor to be be at least a backup PF/C.

Makes he most sense for NY at 24 and 25, Was at 26, and Bos at #30.

[Mark_83]

The best player in this draft will probably be picked somewhere between 10-35, which is good for us.

[ciueli]

This draft feels a little like 2013 (the last draft that was billed as one of the worst drafts of all time). It technically had 3 All-Stars but Victor Oladipo was a 1x All-Star with a career derailed by injuries, so really only 2 clear star level players anyone would recognize as being key guys for a franchise (Giannis and Rudy Gobert) and neither were drafted in the lottery.

Looking at the rest of the players in that draft... yeah, it was a really weak draft from top to bottom. There are only three lottery picks I would say were solid starters with a good long career (KCP, CJ McCollum, and Steven Adams), and other than the aforementioned stars it doesn't get better as you go through the first round.

If this draft is anything like 2013 there is a low chance of us getting even one useful NBA calibre player out of it let alone two or three.

[bobbyp3588]

[quote="Dalek"]This thread is hilarious. On the same page a post about how this is the worst draft ever and then you have Masai saying there is likely two all-stars.


Ummm….if this draft only nets 2 all stars it will be one of the worst drafts ever.

Show me a draft year, 2019 or earlier that has only 2 or fewer all stars. I don’t think you can. A draft netting only 2 all stars is about as bad as a draft can be.

[tecumseh18]

This draft feels a little like 2013 (the last draft that was billed as one of the worst drafts of all time). It technically had 3 All-Stars but Victor Oladipo was a 1x All-Star with a career derailed by injuries, so really only 2 clear star level players anyone would recognize as being key guys for a franchise (Giannis and Rudy Gobert) and neither were drafted in the lottery.

Looking at the rest of the players in that draft... yeah, it was a really weak draft from top to bottom. There are only three lottery picks I would say were solid starters with a good long career (KCP, CJ McCollum, and Steven Adams), and other than the aforementioned stars it doesn't get better as you go through the first round.

I wonder if that was part of the reason Bryan Colangelo was willing to give up the 2013 pick to acquire Lowry in 2012, rather than our 2012 #8 pick (T-Ross)? Everyone knew 2013 was a weak draft?

I keep fantasizing about going back in time to convince Bryan to give up the 2012 pick for Kyle instead, then get fired, allowing Masai to pick Giannis in 2013. But alas, what's done is done.

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This thread is hilarious. On the same page a post about how this is the worst draft ever and then you have Masai saying there is likely two all-stars.


Ummm….if this draft only nets 2 all stars it will be one of the worst drafts ever.

Show me a draft year, 2019 or earlier that has only 2 or fewer all stars. I don’t think you can. A draft netting only 2 all stars is about as bad as a draft can be.

The 2000 draft. Was Kenyon Martin even an allstar? Michael Redd and Kenyon Martin were 1 time allstars.

I'm not sure if I call a 1 time allstar an allstar. There's FVV, Jamaal Magloire.