2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[Tripod]

IQ and RJ are vets. Maybe IQ was hidden behind Brunson and could show out but I don't think he's ever on Lillards level. The playoff runs Dame could help us go on might elevate Barnes and the other youths games.

Is it 2017 or something? lol Dame is DONE bud!


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No combination of assets on TOR would pull 2017 Lillard.

You are like the butler in Mr Deeds.

Appear out of nowhere.

[JRoy]

Is it 2017 or something? lol Dame is DONE bud!


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No combination of assets on TOR would pull 2017 Lillard.

You are like the butler in Mr Deeds.

Appear out of nowhere.

I don’t know what that means.

But thanks.

[youngRAPZ]

No combination of assets on TOR would pull 2017 Lillard.

You are like the butler in Mr Deeds.

Appear out of nowhere.

I don’t know what that means.

But thanks.

Is the blazers board that dead you need to hangout with us Canadians? Also nothing on the Blazers would pull Pascal or OG at any point in their career. Big whoop!

[JRoy]

You are like the butler in Mr Deeds.

Appear out of nowhere.

I don’t know what that means.

But thanks.

Is the blazers board that dead you need to hangout with us Canadians?

I have said before this is the best board on this site and it is.

I have a soft spot for the team and its fans.

That doesn’t mean I always agree with the prevailing zeitgeist.

[Thaddy]

No combination of assets on TOR would pull 2017 Lillard.

You are like the butler in Mr Deeds.

Appear out of nowhere.

I don’t know what that means.

But thanks.

IQ and RJ for Dame at this stage is an overpay. RJ and IQ are young vets and NBA caliber players that can be pieces on a playoff team. That itself is value, and it's a reason why the Raptors accepted the deal from NY. The Bucks can't rebuild and need winning players so they don't defer high picks.

If you can't get high picks then the best move is to build culture and hope players develop into stars through that. If there's a player that can do that it's Giannis, he could elevate the play of IQ and RJ and turn one or both into all stars. LeBron had that effect on a lot of players he played with.

[JRoy]

You are like the butler in Mr Deeds.

Appear out of nowhere.

I don’t know what that means.

But thanks.

IQ and RJ for Dame at this stage is an overpay. RJ and IQ are young vets and NBA caliber players that can be pieces on a playoff team. That itself is value, and it's a reason why the Raptors accepted the deal from NY. The Bucks can't rebuild and need winning players so they don't defer high picks.

If you can't get high picks then the best move is to build culture and hope players develop into stars through that. If there's a player that can do that it's Giannis, he could elevate the play of IQ and RJ and turn one or both into all stars. LeBron had that effect on a lot of players he played with.

At this stage, agreed. Lillards value is at an all time low.

Both are overpaid but could be fits on the right team.

[Thaddy]

I don’t know what that means.

But thanks.

IQ and RJ for Dame at this stage is an overpay. RJ and IQ are young vets and NBA caliber players that can be pieces on a playoff team. That itself is value, and it's a reason why the Raptors accepted the deal from NY. The Bucks can't rebuild and need winning players so they don't defer high picks.

If you can't get high picks then the best move is to build culture and hope players develop into stars through that. If there's a player that can do that it's Giannis, he could elevate the play of IQ and RJ and turn one or both into all stars. LeBron had that effect on a lot of players he played with.

At this stage, agreed. Lillards value is at an all time low.

Both are overpaid but could be fits on the right team.

Lillard probably has another year or 2 at this level left in him. He could elevate the Raptors into a 5th or 6th seed. There's 2 years left on his deal which lines up with when the Raptors would need to pay their young guys. I think it would work. They should have a timeline on their guys like Barnes, Dick, etc.

[JRoy]

IQ and RJ for Dame at this stage is an overpay. RJ and IQ are young vets and NBA caliber players that can be pieces on a playoff team. That itself is value, and it's a reason why the Raptors accepted the deal from NY. The Bucks can't rebuild and need winning players so they don't defer high picks.

If you can't get high picks then the best move is to build culture and hope players develop into stars through that. If there's a player that can do that it's Giannis, he could elevate the play of IQ and RJ and turn one or both into all stars. LeBron had that effect on a lot of players he played with.

At this stage, agreed. Lillards value is at an all time low.

Both are overpaid but could be fits on the right team.

Lillard probably has another year or 2 at this level left in him. He could elevate the Raptors into a 5th or 6th seed. There's 2 years left on his deal which lines up with when the Raptors would need to pay their young guys. I think it would work. They should have a timeline on their guys like Barnes, Dick, etc.

That’s an interesting point. TOR could then decide to keep on truckin or retool around core pieces.

[Thaddy]

At this stage, agreed. Lillards value is at an all time low.

Both are overpaid but could be fits on the right team.

Lillard probably has another year or 2 at this level left in him. He could elevate the Raptors into a 5th or 6th seed. There's 2 years left on his deal which lines up with when the Raptors would need to pay their young guys. I think it would work. They should have a timeline on their guys like Barnes, Dick, etc.

That’s an interesting point. TOR could then decide to keep on truckin or retool around core pieces.

Yeah pretty much. You give Dame, Ingram, and Barnes a chance to contend over the next 2 years. At that point you decide to either sell Barnes and tank/rebuild or continue with Barnes, Ingram, and then one of the young guys they have (2025 1st, Dick, Walter, etc).

The worst thing a franchise can do is give too much time to prospects to prove they are capable of being core pieces. Barnes is already up to 10k minutes, how many more will we need to decide if he's worth the time or not?

The faster turnover (2-3 years) is better for fans and gives ample trial and error time.

[CazOnReal]

IQ and RJ for Dame at this stage is an overpay.

That should tell you that trading for Dame is a bad idea.

[Thaddy]

IQ and RJ for Dame at this stage is an overpay.

That should tell you that trading for Dame is a bad idea.

I would want a first rounder in the distant future. If you check my posts I made one earlier with the 31st MIL 1st

[CazOnReal]

IQ and RJ for Dame at this stage is an overpay.

That should tell you that trading for Dame is a bad idea.

I would want a first rounder in the distant future. If you check my posts I made one earlier with the 31st MIL 1st

I don't think a very distant 1st is the needle mover you think it is. It certainly isn't enough for me to be convinced of essentially wasting the last year or two of Dame's prime as, what, the 5th seed?

Like how does this move the needle for us into contender status next year?

[Thaddy]

That should tell you that trading for Dame is a bad idea.

I would want a first rounder in the distant future. If you check my posts I made one earlier with the 31st MIL 1st

I don't think a very distant 1st is the needle mover you think it is. It certainly isn't enough for me to be convinced of essentially wasting the last year or two of Dame's prime as, what, the 5th seed?

Like how does this move the needle for us into contender status next year?

Playoff experience helps young players grow into better players and raises trade value. We would have to rely on internal growth and trades.

[CazOnReal]

I would want a first rounder in the distant future. If you check my posts I made one earlier with the 31st MIL 1st

I don't think a very distant 1st is the needle mover you think it is. It certainly isn't enough for me to be convinced of essentially wasting the last year or two of Dame's prime as, what, the 5th seed?

Like how does this move the needle for us into contender status next year?

Playoff experience helps young players grow into better players and raises trade value. We would have to rely on internal growth and trades.

Young guys like...say, RJ and IQ.

Also there's cheaper ways to get your guys playoff experience than wasting the last year or two of Dame's prime not competing/taking up an ungodly amount of cap space.

[Thaddy]

I don't think a very distant 1st is the needle mover you think it is. It certainly isn't enough for me to be convinced of essentially wasting the last year or two of Dame's prime as, what, the 5th seed?

Like how does this move the needle for us into contender status next year?

Playoff experience helps young players grow into better players and raises trade value. We would have to rely on internal growth and trades.

Young guys like...say, RJ and IQ.

Also there's cheaper ways to get your guys playoff experience than wasting the last year or two of Dame's prime not competing/taking up an ungodly amount of cap space.

I think they are replaceable talents. We have a 7th pick coming up, if we can get a good prospect that can come in a produce on a playoff team. Similar to how Barnes did. That would be better than having Barrett or even IQ. I guess that player would be one of Kasp, Johnson, Fears or Queen.

Dame and Ingram get us into the playoffs for the next 2 seasons, then Barnes and the other young guys take the driver seat. This would give us a slow cultural ascension towards winning.

[ArthurVandelay]

Is it 2017 or something? lol Dame is DONE bud!


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No combination of assets on TOR would pull 2017 Lillard.

You are like the butler in Mr Deeds.

Appear out of nowhere.

Sneaky sneaky, sir.

[Tripod]

Playoff experience helps young players grow into better players and raises trade value. We would have to rely on internal growth and trades.

Young guys like...say, RJ and IQ.

Also there's cheaper ways to get your guys playoff experience than wasting the last year or two of Dame's prime not competing/taking up an ungodly amount of cap space.

I think they are replaceable talents. We have a 7th pick coming up, if we can get a good prospect that can come in a produce on a playoff team. Similar to how Barnes did. That would be better than having Barrett or even IQ. I guess that player would be one of Kasp, Johnson, Fears or Queen.

Dame and Ingram get us into the playoffs for the next 2 seasons, then Barnes and the other young guys take the driver seat. This would give us a slow cultural ascension towards winning.

We are going to do that anyways.

[Psubs]

NAW is a free agent. Use the MLE for him in July?

Make a 3 for 1 trade at the draft.

What about RJ Barrett, Ochai Agbaji (#39 Por) for Julius Randle and #31 (Utah).

Ingram played his first 2 seasons with Randle in LA and 3rd in New Orleans.

PG IQ - Shead - Ja'Kobe
SG Ingram - Ja'Kobe - Lawson
SF Scottie - Battle/Mogbo
PF Randle - Scottie - Mogbo
C Poeltl - Maluach - Chomche

[ArthurVandelay]

NAW is a free agent. Use the MLE for him in July?

Make a 3 for 1 trade at the draft.

What about RJ Barrett, Ochai Agbaji (#39 Por) for Julius Randle and #31 (Utah).

Ingram played his first 2 seasons with Randle in LA and 3rd in New Orleans.

PG IQ - Shead - Ja'Kobe
SG Ingram - Ja'Kobe - Lawson
SF Scottie - Battle/Mogbo
PF Randle - Scottie - Mogbo
C Poeltl - Maluach - Chomche

Unless a trade occurs, don't even waste your time thinking about free agents this summer unless they are minimum.

They have 11 players at $177m. They have about $10.5m to add a their first round pick, 2nd round pick, and 1 more player to get to 14.

7th pick is $6.8m. They basically have enough for 2 minimum deals.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cba/rookie-scale

[causal_fan]

Now that we have a good sample size, how would posters do a redraft of the Raptors 2024 picks - I know there were lots of varying opinions at time of draft. For me, Mogbo seems like a missed opportunity.