Yahoo: Raps sign Linas Kleiza to 4 year 18.8M offer sheet

Post #941 » by **Duffman100** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:15 pm

dagger wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:Any idea what time today we officially have him?

I think it's tomorrow. The clock starts the first full day after Denver is served with the offer sheet.

bah, today is useless.

Greg Stink · Post #942 » by **Greg Stink** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:12 am

Looks like Sham has the goods on Kleiza's deal.

$4,995,000 $4,605,000 $4,600,000 $4,600,000 = $18.8mil

Final year is a player option. No mention of incentives.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/raptors.jsp

Ducksplatt · Post #943 » by **Ducksplatt** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:29 am

Still looks like a great deal...especially the way money has been thrown around this off-season.
Young guy, tough, can play the 3/4.
Even if he ends up being a back-up, still good numbers.

J-Roc · Post #944 » by **J-Roc** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:33 am

Ducksplatt wrote:Still looks like a great deal...especially the way money has been thrown around this off-season.
Young guy, tough, can play the 3/4.
Even if he ends up being a back-up, still good numbers.

We have too many backups. We need to get a starting rotation sorted out. Whatever Kleiza gets paid, I expect him to aim to be a starting calibre player.

Fairview4Life · Post #945 » by **Fairview4Life** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:12 pm

J-Roc wrote:
Ducksplatt wrote:Still looks like a great deal...especially the way money has been thrown around this off-season.
Young guy, tough, can play the 3/4.
Even if he ends up being a back-up, still good numbers.

We have too many backups. We need to get a starting rotation sorted out.

We don't need to do anything right now. Sorting out the starting rotation is what the draft, expiring contracts over the next two years, and the Bosh TPE are for.

Yolker · Post #946 » by **Yolker** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:35 pm

I like Linas and I know I will like him next year. It seems like every time we get a top end European League player he is great for at least one year before we realize that they can't defend, or shoot or are too old.

raps4life~ · Post #947 » by **raps4life~** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:54 pm

Yolker wrote:I like Linas and I know I will like him next year. It seems like every time we get a top end European League player he is great for at least one year before we realize that they can't defend, or shoot or are too old.

Kleiza isnt a "top european league player". He went to high school and college in the US, and played in the NBA for 4 seasons prior to his 1 season in Europe.

RapsFanInVA · Post #948 » by **RapsFanInVA** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:58 pm

raps4life~ wrote:
Yolker wrote:I like Linas and I know I will like him next year. It seems like every time we get a top end European League player he is great for at least one year before we realize that they can't defend, or shoot or are too old.

Kleiza isnt a "top european league player". He went to high school and college in the US, and played in the NBA for 4 seasons prior to his 1 season in Europe.

Well he led the Euroleague in scoring last year so I think it's valid to say he's a top end European League player. But there's a lot less risk because we already know what he'll be like in the NBA. We shouldn't be a surprise when we see that he's not a great defender.

Post #949 » by **Hassassin** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:05 pm

raps4life~ wrote:
Yolker wrote:I like Linas and I know I will like him next year. It seems like every time we get a top end European League player he is great for at least one year before we realize that they can't defend, or shoot or are too old.

Kleiza isnt a "top european league player". He went to high school and college in the US, and played in the NBA for 4 seasons prior to his 1 season in Europe.

Actually Kleiza was one of the top end Euroleague players last season with Olympiakos.

dagger · Post #950 » by **dagger** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:12 pm

Yolker wrote:I like Linas and I know I will like him next year. It seems like every time we get a top end European League player he is great for at least one year before we realize that they can't defend, or shoot or are too old.

Like? Garbo got injured or he would have been good for years. AP was solid to okay for all three years of his deal. Who else are you talking about? I can only think of Will Solomon. No one else fits the "top end" description.

cdel00 · Post #951 » by **cdel00** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:15 pm

Man aslong as Kleiza stays away from chucking 3s (career 34%) and continues his attack the rim style (39% of attempts were inside) while converting (eFG% of 66% on inside shots) and drawing fouls doing so (13.4% DrawF%) he'll be a welcome addition. We are talking about a player who needs to be fed the ball to be most successful so he should mesh well with the new style of team ball next year.

Yolker · Post #952 » by **Yolker** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:21 pm

Jose can't defend, AP got old (although I always liked him), and Garbo's injuries caused him to lose all skill that he had.

I actually like Linas, and I hope he brings some of the intangibles that Garbo brought but ultimately I think this board is overrating him.

Rude Boy 1 · Post #953 » by **Rude Boy 1** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:23 pm

Yolker wrote:Jose can't defend, AP got old (although I always liked him), and Garbo's injuries caused him to lose all skill that he had.

I actually like Linas, and I hope he brings some of the intangibles that Garbo brought but ultimately I think this board is overrating him.

As usual.

He'll be fine he will put up decent stats on a 27 win team.

Yolker · Post #954 » by **Yolker** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:24 pm

He'll be fine he will put up decent stats on a 27 win team.

Yup I agree

Zeno · Post #955 » by **Zeno** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:31 pm

Wonder if that extra 5 grand in the second year was a sticking point in getting this deal done.

cdel00 · Post #956 » by **cdel00** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:31 pm

I still 19 Wins in our future not 27. Seriously unless Amir becomes the focal point of our offense in the clutch our lack of ability to score in the last 5 mins of tights games is gonna cough up plenty of Ls.

Then again I am fine with a 19 win entertaining season of team ball knowing that a top3 pick is in our future.

Rude Boy 1 · Post #957 » by **Rude Boy 1** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:35 pm

cdel00 wrote:I still 19 Wins in our future not 27. Seriously unless Amir becomes the focal point of our offense in the clutch our lack of ability to score in the last 5 mins of tights games is gonna cough up plenty of Ls.

Then again I am fine with a 19 win entertaining season of team ball knowing that a top3 pick is in our future.

Amir??? what about developing Demar or Weems in that role? Amir makes no sense.

[SJJ] · Post #958 » by **[SJJ]** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:36 pm

I've been really happy about this for a while.
He's going to start at SF and I wont be surprised if he looks like our best player at times. He has a broader skillset than many here give him credit for. Most people also seem to forget that he's been buried behind the bench his whole career since he plaid SF behind a top 5 SF in the league and that he's still very young and has upside.

Kleiza is going to prove a lot of people wrong next year.

Fairview4Life · Post #959 » by **Fairview4Life** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:36 pm

Rude Boy 1 wrote:
cdel00 wrote:I still 19 Wins in our future not 27. Seriously unless Amir becomes the focal point of our offense in the clutch our lack of ability to score in the last 5 mins of tights games is gonna cough up plenty of Ls.

Then again I am fine with a 19 win entertaining season of team ball knowing that a top3 pick is in our future.

Amir??? what about developing Demar or Weems in that role? Amir makes no sense.

His point was that Amir can do it now, and the other guys can't, thus there will be more losses if anyone other than Amir does it.

J-Roc · Post #960 » by **J-Roc** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:37 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
J-Roc wrote:
Ducksplatt wrote:Still looks like a great deal...especially the way money has been thrown around this off-season.
Young guy, tough, can play the 3/4.
Even if he ends up being a back-up, still good numbers.

We have too many backups. We need to get a starting rotation sorted out.

We don't need to do anything right now. Sorting out the starting rotation is what the draft, expiring contracts over the next two years, and the Bosh TPE are for.

Why did you cut away my next line? You need to aim higher, bro. Show some faith in management. Is BC really just targetting players to play off the bench or does he have hopes this guy can be a starter? Faith. Show some.