Official 2022 Draft Thread

[Kevin Willis]

Ousmane Dieng is a hooper, I really like him. Has a special kind of skillset for his size.

I think Raptors can take him in as a project.

I also think he's a likely pick and the thing about him is - he sucks. Like really, really sucks. I mean getting destroyed at the YMCA level sucking. But he has all the tools. Shot well for France and we don't really need him right away so we're one of the rare organizations that could take that risk. The risk is does he become another Skal and I think he can play defense really well and he's a decent passer along with his physical tools so he can at least do that. So maybe not Skal.

Kamagate is another unknown guy that might fall to us but he's playing well so you can justify picking him. However if he's around...

If I was a team and I had to pick between Champagnie and Dieng based off stats, I think most teams would pick Champagnie but the Raptors might not. Because Dieng right now is bad.

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[HumbleRen]

Ousmane Dieng is a hooper, I really like him. Has a special kind of skillset for his size.

I think Raptors can take him in as a project.

I also think he's a likely pick and the thing about him is - he sucks. Like really, really sucks. I mean getting destroyed at the YMCA level sucking. But he has all the tools. Shot well for France and we don't really need him right away so we're one of the rare organizations that could take that risk. The risk is does he become another Skal and I think he can play defense really well and he's a decent passer along with his physical tools so he can at least do that. So maybe not Skal.

Kamagate is another unknown guy that might fall to us but he's playing well so you can justify picking him. However if he's around...

If I was a team and I had to pick between Champagnie and Dieng based off stats, I think most teams would pick Champagnie but the Raptors might not. Because Dieng right now is bad.

Agreed, I think you just take the risk when it comes to guys like him.

6'10 and fluid like a guard is very rare.

[Los_29]

Ousmane Dieng is a hooper, I really like him. Has a special kind of skillset for his size.

I think Raptors can take him in as a project.

I also think he's a likely pick and the thing about him is - he sucks. Like really, really sucks. I mean getting destroyed at the YMCA level sucking. But he has all the tools. Shot well for France and we don't really need him right away so we're one of the rare organizations that could take that risk. The risk is does he become another Skal and I think he can play defense really well and he's a decent passer along with his physical tools so he can at least do that. So maybe not Skal.

Kamagate is another unknown guy that might fall to us but he's playing well so you can justify picking him. However if he's around...

If I was a team and I had to pick between Champagnie and Dieng based off stats, I think most teams would pick Champagnie but the Raptors might not. Because Dieng right now is bad.

Agreed, I think you just take the risk when it comes to guys like him.

6'10 and fluid like a guard is very rare.

Fluid against who though? He doesn't look particularly athletic and his scoring efficiency is really bad. I'm just not sure what skillset he is showing? Can't shoot, can't rebound, can't pass. I don't think people realize how bad he's been. If Siakam isn't a hooper but Dieng is, I need to know why. lol

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[HumbleRen]

I also think he's a likely pick and the thing about him is - he sucks. Like really, really sucks. I mean getting destroyed at the YMCA level sucking. But he has all the tools. Shot well for France and we don't really need him right away so we're one of the rare organizations that could take that risk. The risk is does he become another Skal and I think he can play defense really well and he's a decent passer along with his physical tools so he can at least do that. So maybe not Skal.

Kamagate is another unknown guy that might fall to us but he's playing well so you can justify picking him. However if he's around...

If I was a team and I had to pick between Champagnie and Dieng based off stats, I think most teams would pick Champagnie but the Raptors might not. Because Dieng right now is bad.

Agreed, I think you just take the risk when it comes to guys like him.

6'10 and fluid like a guard is very rare.

Fluid against who though? He doesn't look particularly athletic and his scoring efficiency is really bad. I'm just not sure what skillset he is showing? Can't shoot, can't rebound, can't pass. I don't think people realize how bad he's been. If Siakam isn't a hooper but Dieng is, I need to know why. lol

I just think he would be a fun project for the Raptors to mold.

Siakam at Dieng's age was in an academy prep learning how to play basketball, not against grown men lol. I have no clue where you're going with this.

[Los_29]

Agreed, I think you just take the risk when it comes to guys like him.

6'10 and fluid like a guard is very rare.

Fluid against who though? He doesn't look particularly athletic and his scoring efficiency is really bad. I'm just not sure what skillset he is showing? Can't shoot, can't rebound, can't pass. I don't think people realize how bad he's been. If Siakam isn't a hooper but Dieng is, I need to know why. lol

I just think he would be a fun project for the Raptors to mold.

Siakam at Dieng's age was in an academy prep learning how to play basketball, not against grown men lol. I have no clue where you're going with this.

Yeah perhaps he's an interesting project but probably not at 32. He needs to show he can do something remotely well. Right now he hasn't.

You said Pascal wasn't a hooper but you think Dieng is. Dieng hasn't shown he can hoop in any competitive league he's played in. Pascal has been an all-NBA caliber player. That's where I'm going with this. LOL.

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Agreed, I think you just take the risk when it comes to guys like him.

6'10 and fluid like a guard is very rare.

Fluid against who though? He doesn't look particularly athletic and his scoring efficiency is really bad. I'm just not sure what skillset he is showing? Can't shoot, can't rebound, can't pass. I don't think people realize how bad he's been. If Siakam isn't a hooper but Dieng is, I need to know why. lol

I just think he would be a fun project for the Raptors to mold.

Siakam at Dieng's age was in an academy prep learning how to play basketball, not against grown men lol. I have no clue where you're going with this.

Fun projects, just let someone else mold them, then you steal them away for the MLE later. DJ Wilson is a fun project player.

The thing with fun projects is they may take a while like Boucher or GPII.

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[HumbleRen]

Fluid against who though? He doesn't look particularly athletic and his scoring efficiency is really bad. I'm just not sure what skillset he is showing? Can't shoot, can't rebound, can't pass. I don't think people realize how bad he's been. If Siakam isn't a hooper but Dieng is, I need to know why. lol

I just think he would be a fun project for the Raptors to mold.

Siakam at Dieng's age was in an academy prep learning how to play basketball, not against grown men lol. I have no clue where you're going with this.

Yeah perhaps he's an interesting project but probably not at 32. He needs to show he can do something remotely well. Right now he hasn't.

You said Pascal wasn't a hooper but you think Dieng is. Dieng hasn't shown he can hoop in any competitive league he's played in. Pascal has been an all-NBA caliber player. That's where I'm going with this. LOL.

In the same sentence I called him a project, don't take the first part so seriously. Take it easy.



He was ranked 11th for 2022 prospects last year lol, legit one of the best prospects to come out of France. He's just been very disappointing in the NBL. It wouldn't be a reach to pick him in the 32-34 range at all lol. Wouldn't be my first or 2nd choice but I still find him interesting as a project.

[HumbleRen]

Fluid against who though? He doesn't look particularly athletic and his scoring efficiency is really bad. I'm just not sure what skillset he is showing? Can't shoot, can't rebound, can't pass. I don't think people realize how bad he's been. If Siakam isn't a hooper but Dieng is, I need to know why. lol

I just think he would be a fun project for the Raptors to mold.

Siakam at Dieng's age was in an academy prep learning how to play basketball, not against grown men lol. I have no clue where you're going with this.

Fun projects, just let someone else mold them, then you steal them away for the MLE later. DJ Wilson is a fun project player.

The thing with fun projects is they may take a while like Boucher or GPII.

[Kevin Willis]

I just think he would be a fun project for the Raptors to mold.

Siakam at Dieng's age was in an academy prep learning how to play basketball, not against grown men lol. I have no clue where you're going with this.

Yeah perhaps he's an interesting project but probably not at 32. He needs to show he can do something remotely well. Right now he hasn't.

You said Pascal wasn't a hooper but you think Dieng is. Dieng hasn't shown he can hoop in any competitive league he's played in. Pascal has been an all-NBA caliber player. That's where I'm going with this. LOL.

In the same sentence I called him a project, don't take the first part so seriously. Take it easy.



He was ranked 11th for 2022 prospects last year lol, legit one of the best prospects to come out of France. He's just been very disappointing in the NBL. It wouldn't be a reach to pick him in the 32-34 range at all lol. Wouldn't be my first or 2nd choice but I still find him interesting as a project.

I have to agree he wouldn't be a reach. If he had decent stats in Australia he would be lotto. If he had good stats he would be at least top 10. He's 6'8" with a 7 foot wingspan that used to shoot - haha, a decent playmaker and good defender. He would be better than Baldwin and close to Keegan with the ability to play multiple positions. But his stats suck and like stated, teams will be scared to take a guy like him first round because that's guaranteed money. Second round is good for that kind of risk, where we pick him in the second round is irrelevant. If we can turn him into a Keegan type prospect then great. He could also make Malachi look amazing so it's a risk but coming from a president who had the balls to take Barnes over Suggs, I can see him do it and he fits the teams design.

[Los_29]

I just think he would be a fun project for the Raptors to mold.

Siakam at Dieng's age was in an academy prep learning how to play basketball, not against grown men lol. I have no clue where you're going with this.

Yeah perhaps he's an interesting project but probably not at 32. He needs to show he can do something remotely well. Right now he hasn't.

You said Pascal wasn't a hooper but you think Dieng is. Dieng hasn't shown he can hoop in any competitive league he's played in. Pascal has been an all-NBA caliber player. That's where I'm going with this. LOL.

In the same sentence I called him a project, don't take the first part so seriously. Take it easy.



He was ranked 11th for 2022 prospects last year lol, legit one of the best prospects to come out of France. He's just been very disappointing in the NBL. It wouldn't be a reach to pick him in the 32-34 range at all lol. Wouldn't be my first or 2nd choice but I still find him interesting as a project.

That was last year though, rankings change significantly. Just look at guys like Brandon Boston and Sharife Cooper. Even in a weak draft, there will likely be better options. His numbers are horrifically bad. It's not like there is something you can point to that he does well at a relatively high level.

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Yeah perhaps he's an interesting project but probably not at 32. He needs to show he can do something remotely well. Right now he hasn't.

You said Pascal wasn't a hooper but you think Dieng is. Dieng hasn't shown he can hoop in any competitive league he's played in. Pascal has been an all-NBA caliber player. That's where I'm going with this. LOL.

In the same sentence I called him a project, don't take the first part so seriously. Take it easy.



He was ranked 11th for 2022 prospects last year lol, legit one of the best prospects to come out of France. He's just been very disappointing in the NBL. It wouldn't be a reach to pick him in the 32-34 range at all lol. Wouldn't be my first or 2nd choice but I still find him interesting as a project.

I have to agree he wouldn't be a reach. If he had decent stats in Australia he would be lotto. If he had good stats he would be at least top 10. He's 6'8" with a 7 foot wingspan that used to shoot - haha, a decent playmaker and good defender. He would be better than Baldwin and close to Keegan with the ability to play multiple positions. But his stats suck and like stated, teams will be scared to take a guy like him first round because that's guaranteed money. Second round is good for that kind of risk, where we pick him in the second round is irrelevant. If we can turn him into a Keegan type prospect then great. He could also make Malachi look amazing so it's a risk but coming from a president who had the balls to take Barnes over Suggs, I can see him do it and he fits the teams design.

No way top 10. Sengun went 16 and Garuba went 23. He looks like a taller Patrick McCaw right now.

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Yeah perhaps he's an interesting project but probably not at 32. He needs to show he can do something remotely well. Right now he hasn't.

You said Pascal wasn't a hooper but you think Dieng is. Dieng hasn't shown he can hoop in any competitive league he's played in. Pascal has been an all-NBA caliber player. That's where I'm going with this. LOL.

In the same sentence I called him a project, don't take the first part so seriously. Take it easy.



He was ranked 11th for 2022 prospects last year lol, legit one of the best prospects to come out of France. He's just been very disappointing in the NBL. It wouldn't be a reach to pick him in the 32-34 range at all lol. Wouldn't be my first or 2nd choice but I still find him interesting as a project.

That was last year though, rankings change significantly. Just look at guys like Brandon Boston and Sharife Cooper. Even in a weak draft, there will likely be better options. His numbers are horrifically bad. It's not like there is something you can point to that he does well at a relatively high level.

Considering changes in rankings, he'd be like last year's Greg Brown.

[HumbleRen]

Yeah perhaps he's an interesting project but probably not at 32. He needs to show he can do something remotely well. Right now he hasn't.

You said Pascal wasn't a hooper but you think Dieng is. Dieng hasn't shown he can hoop in any competitive league he's played in. Pascal has been an all-NBA caliber player. That's where I'm going with this. LOL.

In the same sentence I called him a project, don't take the first part so seriously. Take it easy.



He was ranked 11th for 2022 prospects last year lol, legit one of the best prospects to come out of France. He's just been very disappointing in the NBL. It wouldn't be a reach to pick him in the 32-34 range at all lol. Wouldn't be my first or 2nd choice but I still find him interesting as a project.

That was last year though, rankings change significantly. Just look at guys like Brandon Boston and Sharife Cooper. Even in a weak draft, there will likely be better options. His numbers are horrifically bad. It's not like there is something you can point to that he does well at a relatively high level.

Sometimes it's a blessing when a player with that much potential/hype drops to you, it worked out for the Clippers. Brandon Boston has been a good 2nd round pick for them. Gave up on their 1st round pick in Keon to keep Brandon.

It's also a draft thread man, we're shooting the ****. Lighten up lol. We're here to discuss prospects, wrong or right.

[HumbleRen]

Yeah perhaps he's an interesting project but probably not at 32. He needs to show he can do something remotely well. Right now he hasn't.

You said Pascal wasn't a hooper but you think Dieng is. Dieng hasn't shown he can hoop in any competitive league he's played in. Pascal has been an all-NBA caliber player. That's where I'm going with this. LOL.

In the same sentence I called him a project, don't take the first part so seriously. Take it easy.



He was ranked 11th for 2022 prospects last year lol, legit one of the best prospects to come out of France. He's just been very disappointing in the NBL. It wouldn't be a reach to pick him in the 32-34 range at all lol. Wouldn't be my first or 2nd choice but I still find him interesting as a project.

I have to agree he wouldn't be a reach. If he had decent stats in Australia he would be lotto. If he had good stats he would be at least top 10. He's 6'8" with a 7 foot wingspan that used to shoot - haha, a decent playmaker and good defender. He would be better than Baldwin and close to Keegan with the ability to play multiple positions. But his stats suck and like stated, teams will be scared to take a guy like him first round because that's guaranteed money. Second round is good for that kind of risk, where we pick him in the second round is irrelevant. If we can turn him into a Keegan type prospect then great. He could also make Malachi look amazing so it's a risk but coming from a president who had the balls to take Barnes over Suggs, I can see him do it and he fits the teams design.

Agreed.

[YelloC]

I wonder how much interest the front office would have in The other Champagnie Twin.
He averages 2 steals/pg and is further along on O than his brother coming out of college.
30-35 is to high to take him but could change with a good tournament run.

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I wonder how much interest the front office would have in The other Champagnie Twin.
He averages 2 steals/pg and is further along on O than his brother coming out of college.
30-35 is to high to take him but could change with a good tournament run.

My theory is the 1st half of the year, #20 was too high to take him, but he's leveled off scoring wise as well as 3pt %. Now #30-35 might be okay.

Keegan Murray has crazy wingspan and can dunk from standstill. Champagnie is like a poor man's Keegan Murray. He stayed a extra year to keep improving and I'd bet that he works as hard as his brother. He's like hoping to draft Desmond Bane type of prospect. Maybe a taller Elijah Hughes or better yet a Jordan Nwora type prospect now.

[YelloC]

I wonder how much interest the front office would have in The other Champagnie Twin.
He averages 2 steals/pg and is further along on O than his brother coming out of college.
30-35 is to high to take him but could change with a good tournament run.

My theory is the 1st half of the year, #20 was too high to take him, but he's leveled off scoring wise as well as 3pt %. Now #30-35 might be okay.

Keegan Murray has crazy wingspan and can dunk from standstill. Champagnie is like a poor man's Keegan Murray. He stayed a extra year to keep improving and I'd bet that he works as hard as his brother. He's like hoping to draft Desmond Bane type of prospect. Maybe a taller Elijah Hughes or better yet a Jordan Nwora type prospect now.

He’s listed as a guard but doesn’t have great assist averages. He seems to have the size and wingspan to defend 1-4, maybe not so much the 1.
Norm or Dort could be other potential projections.
He just seems like a Raptors type pick.