With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche

[Quattro]

Is it really worth spending years developing guys who may not pan out? I thought we learned our lesson with Bruno. Chomche may turn out to be a great pick, but I normally prefer to draft guys who won’t take 5 years to turn into a rotation player.

I think increasing the age limit to 20 and getting sophomore NCAA and older Euro players as rookies would be better for viewing entertainment.

Bruno was one of the worst mistakes Ujiri made while in Toronto.

The hyperbole in this place never ceases to amaze me

[OhCanada]

Is it really worth spending years developing guys who may not pan out? I thought we learned our lesson with Bruno. Chomche may turn out to be a great pick, but I normally prefer to draft guys who won’t take 5 years to turn into a rotation player.

I think increasing the age limit to 20 and getting sophomore NCAA and older Euro players as rookies would be better for viewing entertainment.

Bruno was one of the worst mistakes Ujiri made while in Toronto.

The hyperbole in this place never ceases to amaze me

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

[RoteSchroder]

Bruno was one of the worst mistakes Ujiri made while in Toronto.

The hyperbole in this place never ceases to amaze me

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

Bruno did put in the work and has shown a lot of improvement. Ended up as BCL America's MVP, NBB MVP, followed by winning a championship in BBL as a major contributor.

He was also definitely a mistake. Slow-footed, no burst, no elite verticality and without any special talent at any aspect of the game. His only positive attribute was his long arms. Being 6'9 would have been a positive if he were fast enough to play SF/PF, but he's more suitable at C.

After Bruno, the Raps completely switched up their drafting strategy, going with players that already had on-court production combined with good advanced stats.

[Tripod]

Just have to remember how young he still is as well as how new to bball he is. He is:

6 months younger than CMB
15 months younger than JKW
2 years younger than Gradey

From day 1 I said to treat him as if his real draft year is 2026 because he needs 2 years in the gleague just to learn more about bball. And entering the 2026/27 season, if you would still use that pick on him, it was worth it. And if he jumped well up in his results, it's like having a late 1st in that 2026 draft.

Year 1 was a success even with the injury. You can see a big difference this past SL vs last years. Now hopefully he has another good year in development.

He comes across as humble and a hard worker. I love that when asked about his 3pt shot, he said that's not his job. His job is to rebound, play good defense and set screens for now. That obviously has been told to him by coaches and he is listening.

[kalel123]

Bruno was one of the worst mistakes Ujiri made while in Toronto.

The hyperbole in this place never ceases to amaze me

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

How is he not a mistake? 20th pick is not a late pick and you still have a decent chance to draft a contributor. Clint Capela, for example, was right there and Raptors were rumored to have interest. Heck, our own Ja'Kobe Walter was a 19th pick. Caboclo gave us absolutely nothing, dude played total of 105 NBA games and averaged around 4ppg for ****'s sake. That's a bust of a pick. And he was not a good athlete. I mean, at the beginning, there was perception that he must be for Ujiri to draft someone so obviously raw. So the thought was it must be a "home run" pick for someone with huge upside (i.e. super athletic). But when he actually played, he just had long arms but was slow and surprisingly unathletic otherwise (had no real lift). Fans couldn't have known that but FO should have and stayed away with the first round pick. His problem wasn't NBA lifestyle, it was lack of talent or athleticism and no basketball IQ to cover for them due to lack of experience.

On the other hand, 57th pick is the perfect spot to "gamble" for someone like that or Chomche. You can take time with the dude with no pressure and you suffer little to no loss even if he doesn't pan out because of how low the pick used on him was.

[YogurtProducer]

The hyperbole in this place never ceases to amaze me

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

Bruno did put in the work and has shown a lot of improvement. Ended up as BCL America's MVP, NBB MVP, followed by winning a championship in BBL as a major contributor.

He was also definitely a mistake. Slow-footed, no burst, no elite verticality and without any special talent at any aspect of the game. His only positive attribute was his long arms. Being 6'9 would have been a positive if he were fast enough to play SF/PF, but he's more suitable at C.

After Bruno, the Raps completely switched up their drafting strategy, going with players that already had on-court production combined with good advanced stats.

We really didn't. We continued to prioritize measurements (Siakam, OG, CMb, barnes, etc.) and drafted a ton more of guys in that mold.

Those are riskier picks. Some dont work out.

[ForeverTFC]

The hyperbole in this place never ceases to amaze me

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

How is he not a mistake? 20th pick is not a late pick and you still have a decent chance to draft a contributor. Clint Capela, for example, was right there and Raptors were rumored to have interest. Heck, our own Ja'Kobe Walter was a 19th pick. Caboclo gave us absolutely nothing, dude played total of 105 NBA games and averaged around 4ppg for ****'s sake. That's a bust of a pick. And he was not a good athlete. I mean, at the beginning, there was perception that he must be for Ujiri to draft someone so obviously raw. So the thought was it must be a "home run" pick for someone with huge upside (i.e. super athletic). But when he actually played, he just had long arms but was slow and surprisingly unathletic otherwise (had no real lift). Fans couldn't have known that but FO should have and stayed away with the first round pick. His problem wasn't NBA lifestyle, it was lack of talent or athleticism and no basketball IQ to cover for them due to lack of experience.

On the other hand, 57th pick is the perfect spot to "gamble" for someone like that or Chomche. You can take time with the dude with no pressure and you suffer little to no loss even if he doesn't pan out because of how low the pick used on him was.

1. You should read this Bruno article on the Rigner: https://www.theringer.com/2024/06/27/nba/bruno-caboclo-nba-draft-toronto-raptors-two-years-away - Raptors did originally want to draft him in the 2nd round but Indiana was after him as well. Embry told Masai he needs to take the risk and go for it
2. Masai and co disagree with your assertion on his talent - they believe they screwed up the development and that the talent was real
3, You should read up on expected values of draft picks: https://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

[DreamTeam09]

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

How is he not a mistake? 20th pick is not a late pick and you still have a decent chance to draft a contributor. Clint Capela, for example, was right there and Raptors were rumored to have interest. Heck, our own Ja'Kobe Walter was a 19th pick. Caboclo gave us absolutely nothing, dude played total of 105 NBA games and averaged around 4ppg for ****'s sake. That's a bust of a pick. And he was not a good athlete. I mean, at the beginning, there was perception that he must be for Ujiri to draft someone so obviously raw. So the thought was it must be a "home run" pick for someone with huge upside (i.e. super athletic). But when he actually played, he just had long arms but was slow and surprisingly unathletic otherwise (had no real lift). Fans couldn't have known that but FO should have and stayed away with the first round pick. His problem wasn't NBA lifestyle, it was lack of talent or athleticism and no basketball IQ to cover for them due to lack of experience.

On the other hand, 57th pick is the perfect spot to "gamble" for someone like that or Chomche. You can take time with the dude with no pressure and you suffer little to no loss even if he doesn't pan out because of how low the pick used on him was.

1. You should read this Bruno article on the Rigner: https://www.theringer.com/2024/06/27/nba/bruno-caboclo-nba-draft-toronto-raptors-two-years-away - Raptors did originally want to draft him in the 2nd round but Indiana was after him as well. Embry told Masai he needs to take the risk and go for it
2. Masai and co disagree with your assertion on his talent - they believe they screwed up the development and that the talent was real
3, You should read up on expected values of draft picks: https://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

Was the DLeague even around for Bruno, I think it came the 2nd yr or his rookie yr was the first yr for the DLeague
Either way if Bruno could've been stashed on a 2way for 2yrs like chomche then signs a standard deal, his career plays out differently

[Johnny Bball]

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

Bruno did put in the work and has shown a lot of improvement. Ended up as BCL America's MVP, NBB MVP, followed by winning a championship in BBL as a major contributor.

He was also definitely a mistake. Slow-footed, no burst, no elite verticality and without any special talent at any aspect of the game. His only positive attribute was his long arms. Being 6'9 would have been a positive if he were fast enough to play SF/PF, but he's more suitable at C.

After Bruno, the Raps completely switched up their drafting strategy, going with players that already had on-court production combined with good advanced stats.

We really didn't. We continued to prioritize measurements (Siakam, OG, CMb, barnes, etc.) and drafted a ton more of guys in that mold.

Those are riskier picks. Some dont work out.

The also prioritize defense, character, quickness and IQ. And that describes all of those much more than Bruno.

[Quattro]

The hyperbole in this place never ceases to amaze me

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

How is he not a mistake? 20th pick is not a late pick and you still have a decent chance to draft a contributor. Clint Capela, for example, was right there and Raptors were rumored to have interest. Heck, our own Ja'Kobe Walter was a 19th pick. Caboclo gave us absolutely nothing, dude played total of 105 NBA games and averaged around 4ppg for ****'s sake. That's a bust of a pick. And he was not a good athlete. I mean, at the beginning, there was perception that he must be for Ujiri to draft someone so obviously raw. So the thought was it must be a "home run" pick for someone with huge upside (i.e. super athletic). But when he actually played, he just had long arms but was slow and surprisingly unathletic otherwise (had no real lift). Fans couldn't have known that but FO should have and stayed away with the first round pick. His problem wasn't NBA lifestyle, it was lack of talent or athleticism and no basketball IQ to cover for them due to lack of experience.

On the other hand, 57th pick is the perfect spot to "gamble" for someone like that or Chomche. You can take time with the dude with no pressure and you suffer little to no loss even if he doesn't pan out because of how low the pick used on him was.

It's easy to draft well when you can look at a draft a decade later and make your picks then isn't it.

And 20 is a late pick. Go look up the percentage of guys drafted at 20 that end up having successful careers in the league.

[kalel123]

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

How is he not a mistake? 20th pick is not a late pick and you still have a decent chance to draft a contributor. Clint Capela, for example, was right there and Raptors were rumored to have interest. Heck, our own Ja'Kobe Walter was a 19th pick. Caboclo gave us absolutely nothing, dude played total of 105 NBA games and averaged around 4ppg for ****'s sake. That's a bust of a pick. And he was not a good athlete. I mean, at the beginning, there was perception that he must be for Ujiri to draft someone so obviously raw. So the thought was it must be a "home run" pick for someone with huge upside (i.e. super athletic). But when he actually played, he just had long arms but was slow and surprisingly unathletic otherwise (had no real lift). Fans couldn't have known that but FO should have and stayed away with the first round pick. His problem wasn't NBA lifestyle, it was lack of talent or athleticism and no basketball IQ to cover for them due to lack of experience.

On the other hand, 57th pick is the perfect spot to "gamble" for someone like that or Chomche. You can take time with the dude with no pressure and you suffer little to no loss even if he doesn't pan out because of how low the pick used on him was.

It's easy to draft well when you can look at a draft a decade later and make your picks then isn't it.

And 20 is a late pick. Go look up the percentage of guys drafted at 20 that end up having successful careers in the league.

There's difference between not having your career pan out and completely flaming out the league barely being able to sniff minutes in NBA despite having the team invest years of development time. Bruno Caboclo was a spectacular failure. I don't know why some of you are so afraid to call it what it is.

And I don't complain about the team picking player A over B unless B is the guy I would've liked the team to draft at the time. So you won't see me complain about this team picking Flynn over Bane but I'll absolutely complain about the team picking Michael Bradley over Zach Randolph or Bruno Caboclo over Clint Capela.

[kalel123]

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

How is he not a mistake? 20th pick is not a late pick and you still have a decent chance to draft a contributor. Clint Capela, for example, was right there and Raptors were rumored to have interest. Heck, our own Ja'Kobe Walter was a 19th pick. Caboclo gave us absolutely nothing, dude played total of 105 NBA games and averaged around 4ppg for ****'s sake. That's a bust of a pick. And he was not a good athlete. I mean, at the beginning, there was perception that he must be for Ujiri to draft someone so obviously raw. So the thought was it must be a "home run" pick for someone with huge upside (i.e. super athletic). But when he actually played, he just had long arms but was slow and surprisingly unathletic otherwise (had no real lift). Fans couldn't have known that but FO should have and stayed away with the first round pick. His problem wasn't NBA lifestyle, it was lack of talent or athleticism and no basketball IQ to cover for them due to lack of experience.

On the other hand, 57th pick is the perfect spot to "gamble" for someone like that or Chomche. You can take time with the dude with no pressure and you suffer little to no loss even if he doesn't pan out because of how low the pick used on him was.

1. You should read this Bruno article on the Rigner: https://www.theringer.com/2024/06/27/nba/bruno-caboclo-nba-draft-toronto-raptors-two-years-away - Raptors did originally want to draft him in the 2nd round but Indiana was after him as well. Embry told Masai he needs to take the risk and go for it
2. Masai and co disagree with your assertion on his talent - they believe they screwed up the development and that the talent was real
3, You should read up on expected values of draft picks: https://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

1. So does the fact that Raptors reached for someone they themselves thought was a 2nd round pick change anything? Other than documenting how they came to make such a mistake? So they had 37th pick but picked him with 20th pick. That's a 17-pick reach and we are supposed to think that was a sound idea?
2. I don't care what Masai thinks in this situation because proof is in the pudding. A lot of things can happen during development years but talent usually has a way of winning out eventually. Dude didn't have NBA talent other than long arms.
3. Maybe you should read up on the dude's NBA stats: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cabocbr01.html Even if you accept the average on the site you referenced, his numbers are still far below it. Also, according to the same site, there's 20% chance of the pick going bust and that's where Caboclo landed. If there's 50% chance the pick becomes a role player or better, that's still a decent chance especially if we are to believe Ujiri is good at drafting. If there's 80% chance of the pick not becoming a bust and you still miss on that pick, that's a mistake. Not sure what you are arguing when the math you reference does nothing but support my argument.

[Quattro]

How is he not a mistake? 20th pick is not a late pick and you still have a decent chance to draft a contributor. Clint Capela, for example, was right there and Raptors were rumored to have interest. Heck, our own Ja'Kobe Walter was a 19th pick. Caboclo gave us absolutely nothing, dude played total of 105 NBA games and averaged around 4ppg for ****'s sake. That's a bust of a pick. And he was not a good athlete. I mean, at the beginning, there was perception that he must be for Ujiri to draft someone so obviously raw. So the thought was it must be a "home run" pick for someone with huge upside (i.e. super athletic). But when he actually played, he just had long arms but was slow and surprisingly unathletic otherwise (had no real lift). Fans couldn't have known that but FO should have and stayed away with the first round pick. His problem wasn't NBA lifestyle, it was lack of talent or athleticism and no basketball IQ to cover for them due to lack of experience.

On the other hand, 57th pick is the perfect spot to "gamble" for someone like that or Chomche. You can take time with the dude with no pressure and you suffer little to no loss even if he doesn't pan out because of how low the pick used on him was.

It's easy to draft well when you can look at a draft a decade later and make your picks then isn't it.

And 20 is a late pick. Go look up the percentage of guys drafted at 20 that end up having successful careers in the league.

There's difference between not having your career pan out and completely flaming out the league barely being able to sniff minutes in NBA despite having the team invest years of development time. Bruno Caboclo was a spectacular failure. I don't know why some of you are so afraid to call it what it is.

And I don't complain about the team picking player A over B unless B is the guy I would've liked the team to draft at the time. So you won't see me complain about this team picking Flynn over Bane but I'll absolutely complain about the team picking Michael Bradley over Zach Randolph or Bruno Caboclo over Clint Capela.

Again, nobody is saying he was a "spectacular" failure because he was picked 20th. You can continue to insist that you should always be getting a quality NBA player at 20 but history doesn't agree with you.

[Dennis 37]

The hyperbole in this place never ceases to amaze me

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

How is he not a mistake? 20th pick is not a late pick and you still have a decent chance to draft a contributor. Clint Capela, for example, was right there and Raptors were rumored to have interest. Heck, our own Ja'Kobe Walter was a 19th pick. Caboclo gave us absolutely nothing, dude played total of 105 NBA games and averaged around 4ppg for ****'s sake. That's a bust of a pick. And he was not a good athlete. I mean, at the beginning, there was perception that he must be for Ujiri to draft someone so obviously raw. So the thought was it must be a "home run" pick for someone with huge upside (i.e. super athletic). But when he actually played, he just had long arms but was slow and surprisingly unathletic otherwise (had no real lift). Fans couldn't have known that but FO should have and stayed away with the first round pick. His problem wasn't NBA lifestyle, it was lack of talent or athleticism and no basketball IQ to cover for them due to lack of experience.

On the other hand, 57th pick is the perfect spot to "gamble" for someone like that or Chomche. You can take time with the dude with no pressure and you suffer little to no loss even if he doesn't pan out because of how low the pick used on him was.

Bruno begat the 905 because the MadHats wouldn't give him playing time. A better player would have got floor time and the 905 may not have happened.

[RoteSchroder]

Bruno wasnt a mistake. He was a gamble with a late 1st round pick that didnt work out. He has had a 7'7 wingspan, was a good athlete and could shoot so go ahead and swing for the fences. If Brunom put the work in the pick wouldve been great but the NBA lifestyle was too much for him.

Bruno did put in the work and has shown a lot of improvement. Ended up as BCL America's MVP, NBB MVP, followed by winning a championship in BBL as a major contributor.

He was also definitely a mistake. Slow-footed, no burst, no elite verticality and without any special talent at any aspect of the game. His only positive attribute was his long arms. Being 6'9 would have been a positive if he were fast enough to play SF/PF, but he's more suitable at C.

After Bruno, the Raps completely switched up their drafting strategy, going with players that already had on-court production combined with good advanced stats.

We really didn't. We continued to prioritize measurements (Siakam, OG, CMb, barnes, etc.) and drafted a ton more of guys in that mold.

Those are riskier picks. Some dont work out.

Measurements combined with on-court production/stats. We no longer drafted players who were ultra raw, even in the 2nd round (until Chomche all the way at 57)

Malachi, Powell, Delon don't exactly pass the long, tall, athletic mold (Powell was undersized at SG, Delon lacked elite athleticism). The use of IBM Watson is also another major indication that advanced stats and on-court production played a heavy role. Zero chance Watson ever identifies Bruno as someone to draft.

[YogurtProducer]

Bruno did put in the work and has shown a lot of improvement. Ended up as BCL America's MVP, NBB MVP, followed by winning a championship in BBL as a major contributor.

He was also definitely a mistake. Slow-footed, no burst, no elite verticality and without any special talent at any aspect of the game. His only positive attribute was his long arms. Being 6'9 would have been a positive if he were fast enough to play SF/PF, but he's more suitable at C.

After Bruno, the Raps completely switched up their drafting strategy, going with players that already had on-court production combined with good advanced stats.

We really didn't. We continued to prioritize measurements (Siakam, OG, CMb, barnes, etc.) and drafted a ton more of guys in that mold.

Those are riskier picks. Some dont work out.

Measurements combined with on-court production/stats. We no longer drafted players who were ultra raw, even in the 2nd round (until Chomche all the way at 57)

Malachi, Powell, Delon don't exactly pass the long, tall, athletic mold (Powell was undersized at SG, Delon lacked elite athleticism). The use of IBM Watson is also another major indication that advanced stats and on-court production played a heavy role. Zero chance Watson ever identifies Bruno as someone to draft.

Powell and Delon 100% were both long well built guards. Powell had a massive wingspan.

[manjusaka]

We really didn't. We continued to prioritize measurements (Siakam, OG, CMb, barnes, etc.) and drafted a ton more of guys in that mold.

Those are riskier picks. Some dont work out.

Measurements combined with on-court production/stats. We no longer drafted players who were ultra raw, even in the 2nd round (until Chomche all the way at 57)

Malachi, Powell, Delon don't exactly pass the long, tall, athletic mold (Powell was undersized at SG, Delon lacked elite athleticism). The use of IBM Watson is also another major indication that advanced stats and on-court production played a heavy role. Zero chance Watson ever identifies Bruno as someone to draft.

Powell and Delon 100% were both long well built guards. Powell had a massive wingspan.

For the reference
Wingspan
Norm 6-11
Jakobe Walter 6-10
Ochai 6-10.25

[RoteSchroder]

We really didn't. We continued to prioritize measurements (Siakam, OG, CMb, barnes, etc.) and drafted a ton more of guys in that mold.

Those are riskier picks. Some dont work out.

Measurements combined with on-court production/stats. We no longer drafted players who were ultra raw, even in the 2nd round (until Chomche all the way at 57)

Malachi, Powell, Delon don't exactly pass the long, tall, athletic mold (Powell was undersized at SG, Delon lacked elite athleticism). The use of IBM Watson is also another major indication that advanced stats and on-court production played a heavy role. Zero chance Watson ever identifies Bruno as someone to draft.

Powell and Delon 100% were both long well built guards. Powell had a massive wingspan.

Doesn't disprove my point.

- Strong on-court production/advanced stats from every drafted player after Bruno
- incorporation of IBM Watson, which wasn't previously used with Bruno
- Malachi Flynn..clearly doesn't fit the long/tall/athletic strategy

All show a difference in the thought process.

Powell was also ~6'3 and considered undersized:

https://sports.yahoo.com/norman-powell-scouting-report-accolades-083707502.html

He’s undersized for his position

https://nbadraftroom.com/norman-powell-nba-draft-scouting-report/

Not the most explosive or athletic wing. Doesn’t have ideal SG height.

https://www.nba.com/lakers/150601_powellprofile

"I get mixed results (from teams); definitely gonna call me a little bit undersized."

There were also concerns about Delon Wright's athleticism by some:

https://sports.yahoo.com/delon-wright-scouting-report-140359787.html

Not the most physically gifted player

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/738882

his lack of elite athleticism leaves a question as to how well his game will carry over against larger, smarter opponents.

https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2015/07/15/the-idiosyncratic-delon-wright/
Fan comments:

He's also not the greatest athlete either. I feel like that restricts his upside to great backup, spot starter types. I don't see a way he busts with his feel for the game and passing. For a 20th pick, I can live with that, although i wanted an upside guy. (not really the long athletic high upside type like Bruno)

He's changes direction and speeds very well, but his athleticism is definitely underwhelming for a pg.

Crafty scorer, good court vision, high IQ, and average athleticism.

Wright wasn't considered a "Masai type"
https://www.raptorshq.com/2015/6/26/8849339/nba-draft-2015-toronto-raptors-lets-meet-delon-wright

We've been sold on players who ooze athleticism or have unlimited ceiling many times before, but this draft was a change in strategy for Masai Ujiri. In Delon Wright, he's gone for the older, NBA-ready, steady point guard with the high motor. I'm a fan.

Gradey Dick..also definitely not considered a "Masai type"

[manjusaka]

Measurements combined with on-court production/stats. We no longer drafted players who were ultra raw, even in the 2nd round (until Chomche all the way at 57)

Malachi, Powell, Delon don't exactly pass the long, tall, athletic mold (Powell was undersized at SG, Delon lacked elite athleticism). The use of IBM Watson is also another major indication that advanced stats and on-court production played a heavy role. Zero chance Watson ever identifies Bruno as someone to draft.

Powell and Delon 100% were both long well built guards. Powell had a massive wingspan.

Doesn't disprove my point.

- Strong on-court production/advanced stats from every drafted player after Bruno
- incorporation of IBM Watson, which wasn't previously used with Bruno
- Malachi Flynn..clearly doesn't fit the long/tall/athletic strategy

All show a difference in the thought process.

Powell was also ~6'3 and considered undersized:

https://sports.yahoo.com/norman-powell-scouting-report-accolades-083707502.html

He’s undersized for his position

https://nbadraftroom.com/norman-powell-nba-draft-scouting-report/

Not the most explosive or athletic wing. Doesn’t have ideal SG height.

https://www.nba.com/lakers/150601_powellprofile

"I get mixed results (from teams); definitely gonna call me a little bit undersized."

There were also concerns about Delon Wright's athleticism by some:

https://sports.yahoo.com/delon-wright-scouting-report-140359787.html

Not the most physically gifted player

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/738882

his lack of elite athleticism leaves a question as to how well his game will carry over against larger, smarter opponents.

https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2015/07/15/the-idiosyncratic-delon-wright/
Fan comments:

He's also not the greatest athlete either. I feel like that restricts his upside to great backup, spot starter types. I don't see a way he busts with his feel for the game and passing. For a 20th pick, I can live with that, although i wanted an upside guy. (not really the long athletic high upside type like Bruno)

He's changes direction and speeds very well, but his athleticism is definitely underwhelming for a pg.

Crafty scorer, good court vision, high IQ, and average athleticism.

Wright wasn't considered a "Masai type"
https://www.raptorshq.com/2015/6/26/8849339/nba-draft-2015-toronto-raptors-lets-meet-delon-wright

We've been sold on players who ooze athleticism or have unlimited ceiling many times before, but this draft was a change in strategy for Masai Ujiri. In Delon Wright, he's gone for the older, NBA-ready, steady point guard with the high motor. I'm a fan.

Gradey Dick..also definitely not considered a "Masai type"

You don’t get it, Powell is not undersized by any mean. It is not about height…

Devin Booker
Standing reach 8-6.5
Wingspan 6–8.5

Klay
Standing reach 8-7.5
Wingspan 6-9

Norman Powell
Standing Reach 8-6.5
Wingspan 6-11

Powell occupied the same space as Booker annd Klay unless you think Booker and Klay are undersized at 2/3 too.

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Measurements combined with on-court production/stats. We no longer drafted players who were ultra raw, even in the 2nd round (until Chomche all the way at 57)

Malachi, Powell, Delon don't exactly pass the long, tall, athletic mold (Powell was undersized at SG, Delon lacked elite athleticism). The use of IBM Watson is also another major indication that advanced stats and on-court production played a heavy role. Zero chance Watson ever identifies Bruno as someone to draft.

Powell and Delon 100% were both long well built guards. Powell had a massive wingspan.

Doesn't disprove my point.

- Strong on-court production/advanced stats from every drafted player after Bruno
- incorporation of IBM Watson, which wasn't previously used with Bruno
- Malachi Flynn..clearly doesn't fit the long/tall/athletic strategy

All show a difference in the thought process.

Powell was also ~6'3 and considered undersized:

https://sports.yahoo.com/norman-powell-scouting-report-accolades-083707502.html

He’s undersized for his position

https://nbadraftroom.com/norman-powell-nba-draft-scouting-report/

Not the most explosive or athletic wing. Doesn’t have ideal SG height.

https://www.nba.com/lakers/150601_powellprofile

"I get mixed results (from teams); definitely gonna call me a little bit undersized."

There were also concerns about Delon Wright's athleticism by some:

https://sports.yahoo.com/delon-wright-scouting-report-140359787.html

Not the most physically gifted player

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/738882

his lack of elite athleticism leaves a question as to how well his game will carry over against larger, smarter opponents.

https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2015/07/15/the-idiosyncratic-delon-wright/
Fan comments:

He's also not the greatest athlete either. I feel like that restricts his upside to great backup, spot starter types. I don't see a way he busts with his feel for the game and passing. For a 20th pick, I can live with that, although i wanted an upside guy. (not really the long athletic high upside type like Bruno)

He's changes direction and speeds very well, but his athleticism is definitely underwhelming for a pg.

Crafty scorer, good court vision, high IQ, and average athleticism.

Wright wasn't considered a "Masai type"
https://www.raptorshq.com/2015/6/26/8849339/nba-draft-2015-toronto-raptors-lets-meet-delon-wright

We've been sold on players who ooze athleticism or have unlimited ceiling many times before, but this draft was a change in strategy for Masai Ujiri. In Delon Wright, he's gone for the older, NBA-ready, steady point guard with the high motor. I'm a fan.

Gradey Dick..also definitely not considered a "Masai type"

I mean you are expecting us to have 20 boxes and check each one off with every single draft pick. Bruno was a definite "home run" type pick that would either pay off handsomely or fail miserably. But it doesn't change the fact that he was a very "Raptors" pick in that he was a guy you could see developing into a multi positional defender who you hope you can teach offence to down the road.

That pretty much nails every Raptors pick of the Masai regime. There are a few that go against that formula, but it doesn't change that the FO definitely put those traits at the forefront of their player development.