Official NBA General Discussion 2024-25 V1.0

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Was available late 2nd round in 2021 draft. A clear miss.

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Twice, in some cases.

[ItsDanger]

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So…. Giannis must be leaving Milwaukee, ‘cause big market it is not.

[Tripod]

Bucks decided to not dress guys tonight.

No Dame, Giannis, Middleton, Portis, Lopez.

Imagine paying for that game

[Syd-TK3]

Amen Thompson is so special. If he ever gets a reliable jumpshot it's over

[tsherkin]

Amen Thompson is so special. If he ever gets a reliable jumpshot it's over

Yeah, that's about right.

[sidsid]

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Roping in both Kat and Brunson into actions that leave highways to the rim is going to be their playoff undoing. Not sure having KAT at the 4 with a non-Rudy C solves that problem either.

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[Tripod]

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His last 11 games, only 2 times has he posted more than his season avg in pts....9 games he scored below 22.5.

That 50 pt game where he got to the FT line 26 times really inflated his numbers. We as a team had 16 FT's last game....lol.

For Paolo that 50 pt game boosts his ppg from 20.8 to 22.5. Crazy how 1 game can skew the numbers so much...but I guess that happens when you miss time. But certainly people would view him differently at 20.8....since no bag Barnes is at 20.1.

[Los_29]

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His last 11 games, only 2 times has he posted more than his season avg in pts....9 games he scored below 22.5.

That 50 pt game where he got to the FT line 26 times really inflated his numbers. We as a team had 16 FT's last game....lol.

For Paolo that 50 pt game boosts his ppg from 20.8 to 22.5. Crazy how 1 game can skew the numbers so much...but I guess that happens when you miss time. But certainly people would view him differently at 20.8....since no bag Barnes is at 20.1.

The hype he was getting on here after one massive game earlier this year was wild. Year 3 now with loads of flaws.

Orlando is destined for 1st and 2nd round exits if Banchero doesn’t develop into a superstar.

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His last 11 games, only 2 times has he posted more than his season avg in pts....9 games he scored below 22.5.

That 50 pt game where he got to the FT line 26 times really inflated his numbers. We as a team had 16 FT's last game....lol.

For Paolo that 50 pt game boosts his ppg from 20.8 to 22.5. Crazy how 1 game can skew the numbers so much...but I guess that happens when you miss time. But certainly people would view him differently at 20.8....since no bag Barnes is at 20.1.

The hype he was getting on here after one massive game earlier this year was wild. Year 3 now with loads of flaws.

Orlando is destined for 1st and 2nd round exits if Banchero doesn’t develop into a superstar.

He's still coming back from injury, I wouldn't place a ton of weight on 12 games.

[tsherkin]

His last 11 games, only 2 times has he posted more than his season avg in pts....9 games he scored below 22.5.

That 50 pt game where he got to the FT line 26 times really inflated his numbers. We as a team had 16 FT's last game....lol.

For Paolo that 50 pt game boosts his ppg from 20.8 to 22.5. Crazy how 1 game can skew the numbers so much...but I guess that happens when you miss time. But certainly people would view him differently at 20.8....since no bag Barnes is at 20.1.

The hype he was getting on here after one massive game earlier this year was wild. Year 3 now with loads of flaws.

Orlando is destined for 1st and 2nd round exits if Banchero doesn’t develop into a superstar.

He's still coming back from injury, I wouldn't place a ton of weight on 12 games.

I'd place even less on 5. Don't forget, his FTr was north of .600 during those first 5 games, which in no way was ever gonna sustain. He has never been able to shoot from 3-16 feet, but he gets lots of his shots from there, and he is approximately a league-average finisher in close, with weak FT shooting into year 3.

There's potential there with his mobility, his handle and his perimeter two, but he's got a lot working against him as a scorer right now. We're gonna see what the rest of the season brings as far as him fully recovering from the injury and getting his mojo back, because he does slash pretty well and he is quite adept at drawing fouls, but he has a lot of skill development between him and being a quality first option right at the moment.

Speaking to Tripod's point, though: it's 2025. We need to stop looking at raw volume as terribly relevant. It's a product of opportunity. We now Banchero is a scorer, that's his thing, that's what he's going to do. The question, as it is with Barnes and RJ, is how well can he do it? Right now, not so well, but we'll see. He showed some improvement between year one and two, then had a hot start to year 3 before getting taken out. Now he's really struggling, so we'll have to see what happens over the next 30 games or so.

[brownbobcat]

The hype he was getting on here after one massive game earlier this year was wild. Year 3 now with loads of flaws.

Orlando is destined for 1st and 2nd round exits if Banchero doesn’t develop into a superstar.

He's still coming back from injury, I wouldn't place a ton of weight on 12 games.

I'd place even less on 5. Don't forget, his FTr was north of .600 during those first 5 games, which in no way was ever gonna sustain. He has never been able to shoot from 3-16 feet, but he gets lots of his shots from there, and he is approximately a league-average finisher in close, with weak FT shooting into year 3.

There's potential there with his mobility, his handle and his perimeter two, but he's got a lot working against him as a scorer right now. We're gonna see what the rest of the season brings as far as him fully recovering from the injury and getting his mojo back, because he does slash pretty well and he is quite adept at drawing fouls, but he has a lot of skill development between him and being a quality first option right at the moment.

Speaking to Tripod's point, though: it's 2025. We need to stop looking at raw volume as terribly relevant. It's a product of opportunity. We now Banchero is a scorer, that's his thing, that's what he's going to do. The question, as it is with Barnes and RJ, is how well can he do it? Right now, not so well, but we'll see. He showed some improvement between year one and two, then had a hot start to year 3 before getting taken out. Now he's really struggling, so we'll have to see what happens over the next 30 games or so.

I'm saying look at his whole career and skillset, not 5 games or 12. He's not a superstar yet, I definitely agree with that.

[tsherkin]

I'm saying look at his whole career and skillset, not 5 games or 12. He's not a superstar yet, I definitely agree with that.

Yeah, I agree that there are some concerns, as I'd noted. He's clearly not a superstar. He's got some interesting elements to his game, and he got heavily derailed by the injury. The specific numbers from the first 5 aren't reliable, nor is a 12-game sample illustrative, so we'll just have to wait and see what happens as he recovers.

[James_Raptors]

Banchero is a career 0.0 BPM player, 29% USG, .534 TS, 31.6% 3pt shooter.
Orlando is the worst 3pt shooting team in the NBA and one of the worst offensively.

Now, they've lost a lot of man games this season, and time will tell.
But Paolo needs a bump or two to get anywhere close to being considered a cornerstone piece.
The next couple of seasons will tell whether he's just a different looking taller RJ Barrett, or something more special.
Both of whom struggle to reach 70%FT and both have their issues from deep, and on defense.

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*crickets*

And people say RJ is not a winning bball player.

[Los_29]

He's still coming back from injury, I wouldn't place a ton of weight on 12 games.

I'd place even less on 5. Don't forget, his FTr was north of .600 during those first 5 games, which in no way was ever gonna sustain. He has never been able to shoot from 3-16 feet, but he gets lots of his shots from there, and he is approximately a league-average finisher in close, with weak FT shooting into year 3.

There's potential there with his mobility, his handle and his perimeter two, but he's got a lot working against him as a scorer right now. We're gonna see what the rest of the season brings as far as him fully recovering from the injury and getting his mojo back, because he does slash pretty well and he is quite adept at drawing fouls, but he has a lot of skill development between him and being a quality first option right at the moment.

Speaking to Tripod's point, though: it's 2025. We need to stop looking at raw volume as terribly relevant. It's a product of opportunity. We now Banchero is a scorer, that's his thing, that's what he's going to do. The question, as it is with Barnes and RJ, is how well can he do it? Right now, not so well, but we'll see. He showed some improvement between year one and two, then had a hot start to year 3 before getting taken out. Now he's really struggling, so we'll have to see what happens over the next 30 games or so.

I'm saying look at his whole career and skillset, not 5 games or 12. He's not a superstar yet, I definitely agree with that.

That’s exactly what we are doing. We are looking at his whole career. He’s always been an inefficient player.

[tsherkin]

I'd place even less on 5. Don't forget, his FTr was north of .600 during those first 5 games, which in no way was ever gonna sustain. He has never been able to shoot from 3-16 feet, but he gets lots of his shots from there, and he is approximately a league-average finisher in close, with weak FT shooting into year 3.

There's potential there with his mobility, his handle and his perimeter two, but he's got a lot working against him as a scorer right now. We're gonna see what the rest of the season brings as far as him fully recovering from the injury and getting his mojo back, because he does slash pretty well and he is quite adept at drawing fouls, but he has a lot of skill development between him and being a quality first option right at the moment.

Speaking to Tripod's point, though: it's 2025. We need to stop looking at raw volume as terribly relevant. It's a product of opportunity. We now Banchero is a scorer, that's his thing, that's what he's going to do. The question, as it is with Barnes and RJ, is how well can he do it? Right now, not so well, but we'll see. He showed some improvement between year one and two, then had a hot start to year 3 before getting taken out. Now he's really struggling, so we'll have to see what happens over the next 30 games or so.

I'm saying look at his whole career and skillset, not 5 games or 12. He's not a superstar yet, I definitely agree with that.

That’s exactly what we are doing. We are looking at his whole career. He’s always been an inefficient player.

"Always" is a big word for 169 games and a dude in his 3rd season, especially one who has been trending up, if gently.

[bobbyp3588]

Bucks decided to not dress guys tonight.

No Dame, Giannis, Middleton, Portis, Lopez.

Imagine paying for that game

That’s a disgrace. I’d hope they get fined for that.