Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st

[bape_lovers]

dude, i want Luka too but dallas says no, who doesnt want Zion? It takes both parties to say yes. Potel is for stay dw

isnt zion always injured as well?

LoveMyRaps, this is exactly same sentiment you expressed before yesterday. How do you explain it?

Really guys? Are you stooping to that level, that you pretend not to understand.

If i had to have an injured Player i rather would have Zion than Ingram.

Is that so hard to understand?

*smh* I am losing faith in the intelligence of human beeings, reading your responses.

[Tha Cynic]

Why is our local beat writer acting like a realgm poster?

You would be surprised how many of them post and take stuff from here for their content lol

[Merit]

He is our most efficient scorer at 10FGA, 14pts including last year. Also, he isnt great defensively.

You said he needs the ball. That is just not true.

Provide hard evidence he will be effective without the ball.

You can’t score a bucket without the ball.

Jak doesn’t need many plays called for him because he’s an excellent offensive rebounder and a connective piece on offense.

[Merit]

And **** it, bring back Boucher and let him retire a Raptor!

This is what happens when you are sleep deprived

Can't even argue with that. 7 hours combined the last few nights.

Boucher looks like Wilt to me right now.

Where’s wilt lite in Otto Porter Jr.?

[Shakril]

dude, i want Luka too but dallas says no, who doesnt want Zion? It takes both parties to say yes. Potel is for stay dw

isnt zion always injured as well?

Really guys? Are you stooping to that level, that you pretend not to understand.

If i had to have an injured Player i rather would have Zion than Ingram.

Is that so hard to understand?

*smh* I am losing faith in the intelligence of human beeings, reading your responses.

Thats why it makes so little sense trading for a guy whos injury history doesnt spell confidence in me.
Yes if it were Zion, i can understand it, but not BI.
I really hope, that in this case i am completly wrong and BI surprises us with ALL-Star Level play. Only then, its a good trade.

[Los_29]

i'm saying the trade didn't make a difference because we're back at the same spot, stuck in mediocrity.

We traded the Indy pick next year. We did not trade our lottery pick this year.

we're falling in the lottery rankings. If ingram plays, we could easily have 7th or 8th worst odds.
I think Chicago and Brooklyn are about to take extreme tanking measures. Maybe even portland too.

Ingram is currently injured. Chicago has 22 wins, 6 more than us. Portland is 9-1 in their last 10 and also have 6 more wins than us. Brooklyn is a threat but we are still in line for a very good pick. We are the 5th worst team in the league with like 30 games to go. lol.

[Merit]

Pretty much 2 assumptions have to be made here in terms of Masai's likely thought process with this trade:

1) Masai believes the Indy pick will end up post-lottery (he's not betting against Indy in 2026).
2) Masai believes Ingram's extension and the rookie scale of our 2025 FRP will fit into the tax space we have for next season (currently at around $50M with 9 roster spots filled according to Spotrac).

If point #2 isn't the case, someone else is going to have to go to make Ingram's salary and the 2025 FRP rookie scale salary fit under the tax, and it's probably going to have to be someone in the RJ/Poeltl salary range for multiple reasons.

Edit: someone will likely have to go regardless, because they can't just sign Ingram and the 2025 FRP and run an 11 man roster.

Also for anyone thinking MLSE will authorize spending into the tax next season, that's a pipe dream, not happening.

Boucher is expiring and I don’t think he comes back at the same price

[___Rand___]

Which year's 1st round pick???!!!!!!!! I can't read through freain 48 pages of this!!!!!!!!!!!

[WuTang_CMB]

Which year's 1st round pick???!!!!!!!! I can't read through freain 48 pages of this!!!!!!!!!!!

Indiana 26' same protection

[Jadoogar]

We traded the Indy pick next year. We did not trade our lottery pick this year.

we're falling in the lottery rankings. If ingram plays, we could easily have 7th or 8th worst odds.
I think Chicago and Brooklyn are about to take extreme tanking measures. Maybe even portland too.

Ingram is currently injured. Chicago has 22 wins, 6 more than us. Portland is 9-1 in their last 10 and also have 6 more wins than us. Brooklyn is a threat but we are still in line for a very good pick. We are the 5th worst team in the league with like 30 games to go. lol.

Chicago just traded their best player and Vuc may still be moved. They are absolutely a threat.
Portland could just be going through a hot stretch similar to what the raptors went through recently

[AkelaLoneWolf]

this place really loves overrating mid FRPs. Massive overpay? Ingram was gotten quite cheap, but we need to see if we re-sign him and for how much

the issue isn't the pick itself. Like the poeltl trade, the value is fair in a vacuum.
The issue is direction. Like the poeltl trade, we are going to be forced to re-sign Ingram. The team has been a complete disaster and the opportunity to tank in a loaded draft is right there for the taking (jst like the Wemby draft) but instead we are choosing to purse the play-in once again.

Just feels like management continues to take the wrong direction. Tickets sales must have been dropping.

Ingram and our other players will probably sit most of the rest of the season. We’re not going for the play in.

[Merit]

I'm looking forward to the BI-Dick BBQ next year.

It’s the killer b’s with quick dick on the side.

[___Rand___]

Which year's 1st round pick???!!!!!!!! I can't read through freain 48 pages of this!!!!!!!!!!!

Indiana 26' same protection

Phew. thanks!

[mademan]

Cheap enough for me not to care about, but i hate the fit with RJ still here. Too many mediocre defenders and Ingram, like RJ, has had ball stopping tendencies. Wonky fit on both sides of the ball

But a single 1st + contracts for Ingram is a win, imo (depending on the contract)

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Which year's 1st round pick???!!!!!!!! I can't read through freain 48 pages of this!!!!!!!!!!!

Indiana 26' same protection

If pacers are a plus 500 team next year it projects to be a pick in the bottom half of the first round

[___Rand___]

So basically Masai isn't tanking for long. He's going to try and win with this group starting next year and this year's pick. ummmm I dunno.

[ChillRelaxDude]

Why is our local beat writer acting like a realgm poster?

You would be surprised how many of them post and take stuff from here for their content lol

If that's the case - Hi local beat writers and media personalities. Being emotional and acting like a little child on TV isn't a good look. Less whining and put the work on making it easier to read your articles. Try developing a source, too. Sucks that you guys know nothing about anything all the damn time.

[douggood]

Which year's 1st round pick???!!!!!!!! I can't read through freain 48 pages of this!!!!!!!!!!!

Indiana 26' same protection

Phew. thanks!

you could have just read the thread title, alas
also included is raptors 2031 2nd.

[TorontoBarneys]

We the Mid.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Pretty much 2 assumptions have to be made here in terms of Masai's likely thought process with this trade:

1) Masai believes the Indy pick will end up post-lottery (he's not betting against Indy in 2026).
2) Masai believes Ingram's extension and the rookie scale of our 2025 FRP will fit into the tax space we have for next season (currently at around $50M with 9 roster spots filled according to Spotrac).

If point #2 isn't the case, someone else is going to have to go to make Ingram's salary and the 2025 FRP rookie scale salary fit under the tax, and it's probably going to have to be someone in the RJ/Poeltl salary range for multiple reasons.

Edit: someone will likely have to go regardless, because they can't just sign Ingram and the 2025 FRP and run an 11 man roster.

Also for anyone thinking MLSE will authorize spending into the tax next season, that's a pipe dream, not happening.

Boucher is expiring and I don’t think he comes back at the same price

There is still the possibility of taking dead cap space player for Boucher for srp. Also we can use our mle for expiring contract for srp also.