2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[Madhouse]

I still would want Myles Turner on the Raptors.

[DreamTeam09]

Send Boucher to PHX and let's bring home Bruno as a replacement

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I know this is a trade thread so people are motivated to propose trades, but I don't feel Masai and Bobby are going to be motivated to pursue win-now trades. They are trying something with the interchangeable length strategy that really took off with drafting Barnes and Banton. I can't see them using any first round draft capital right now and certainly not on a sideways move. The expendables, i.e. the guys whose minutes are being squeezed are Boucher (who is playing better and whose expiring contract might interest a tax team), Flynn, Yuta and Svi, and any trades at the deadline are, in my view, most likely to revolve around those guys. There is a risk that if the team runs up some more wins and nails down a decent playoff spot that we will be exposed like the Knicks and Hawks - fools gold. I think our management are too smart to be fooled by that. They have a plan and will stick with it.

A Boucher trade does make sense if it brings back similar 2022-23 money because we're going to be way below the tax line as things stand. He would help a contender now, and help them avoid tax or otherwise help their financial flexibility when they don't resign him, and that might actually be worth giving up some salary or draft equity. In our case, I wonder if we would re-sign him, given his age and likely desire for some security, and that our biggest needs for 2022-23 may lie elsewhere. But as a 15 mpg player, he has value for a contender.

[Bruin]

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[Zeno]

Boucher, Yuta, Malachi for Coby White and Marko Simonovic(their #44 pick and a centre prospect I know nothing about).

Yuta and Boucher give Chicago length and defence at the 3/4 they need plus theoretical shooting as win-now players at 27 and 28 years old expirings. Malachi fits better in Chicago and has an extra year on his deal than White. This deal opens a few million under the luxury tax and an extra roster spot. You can convert Champangie and maybe sign a DJ Wilson too. Then sign Reggie Perry or another prospect they like to the open two way spot.

[Morris_Shatford]

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McCollum is a bit of a weird one.
He is pretty darn consistent or at least has been when healthy over the last few seasons.
You get around 20PPG on 45 and 40% shooting

On the other side of the coin,
He is 30 and is owed around 70m over the next two seasons.

I think you need to have a very specific offense and team make up in order to justify having him eat up nearly 30% of your cap.
As to if he is negative value or not, I guess it just takes one team?

[Rapsfan07]

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McCollum is a bit of a weird one.
He is pretty darn consistent or at least has been when healthy over the last few seasons.
You get around 20PPG on 45 and 40% shooting

On the other side of the coin,
He is 30 and is owed around 70m over the next two seasons.

I think you need to have a very specific offense and team make up in order to justify having him eat up nearly 30% of your cap.
As to if he is negative value or not, I guess it just takes one team?

Fits like a glove in Philly. They need exactly this type of scorer to put the over the top IMO... or at least close to it.

But I would agree with you - he doesn't on a lot of teams. Gotta have a specific offense for him to work.

[Zeno]

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McCollum is a bit of a weird one.
He is pretty darn consistent or at least has been when healthy over the last few seasons.
You get around 20PPG on 45 and 40% shooting

On the other side of the coin,
He is 30 and is owed around 70m over the next two seasons.

I think you need to have a very specific offense and team make up in order to justify having him eat up nearly 30% of your cap.
As to if he is negative value or not, I guess it just takes one team?

CJ was getting all-star buzz until he got hurt last year. I wonder if Kevin Love has raised his value enough to make sense. But he is basically the power forward version of CJ. Hurt alot and hard to have a quality defence with. CJ is probably way more valuable but he has two more year and Love only one.

[Asif16]

Whats Buddy Hield's contract like? Would be just the scorer we need off the bench

[mvp_32]

Just playing with the trade machine and came up with this. Obviously picks would need to involved

Toronto: Boucher, Birch, Goran for Turner, Burke
Indiana: Turner, Lavert for Porzingis, Boucher
Dallas: Porzingis, Burke for Goran, Levert, Birch

Gets Toronto a backup PG who can run the offence and a starting calibre C who plays strong D and can hit the open 3.

[douggood]

Whats Buddy Hield's contract like? Would be just the scorer we need off the bench

2.5 years left
22.5/20.5/18.5

[HumbleRen]

I'd be so down to give up a 1st for Cam Reddish lol.

[Larry_Russell]

Does a Horford for Dragic swap make sense?

[Morris_Shatford]

Does a Horford for Dragic swap make sense?

I am not sure how Boston values (or doesn't value) Horford so I cant comment on value.

The challenge is Dragic makes 19m and Horford makes 27m;
You could potentially tack Bouchers (7m) expiring on there to get close but it may put us in the tax.

The other issues is Horford makes 26.5m next season (14.5m guaranteed)

If we kept him, we wouldn't be able to use the entire MLE (assuming we kept our FRP and signed him) this off-season without going into the tax.

[Ell Curry]

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McCollum is a bit of a weird one.
He is pretty darn consistent or at least has been when healthy over the last few seasons.
You get around 20PPG on 45 and 40% shooting

On the other side of the coin,
He is 30 and is owed around 70m over the next two seasons.

I think you need to have a very specific offense and team make up in order to justify having him eat up nearly 30% of your cap.
As to if he is negative value or not, I guess it just takes one team?

I wonder if we'd look at Dragic, Birch and Boucher for McCollum? Portland saves almost 30M this summer they can try to spend on a wing (though slim pickings in free agency apart from the RFA Miles Bridges) and gets some frontcourt insurance if Nurkic leaves.

We'd get a legit 6th man who could singlehandley fix our bench, but 2 expensive years left is the scary part obviously. Shame it isn't 1 after this year. Though it's timed okay with us extending Van Vleet at a raise.

[Larry_Russell]

Does a Horford for Dragic swap make sense?

I am not sure how Boston values (or doesn't value) Horford so I cant comment on value.

The challenge is Dragic makes 19m and Horford makes 27m;
You could potentially tack Bouchers (7m) expiring on there to get close but it may put us in the tax.

The other issues is Horford makes 26.5m next season (14.5m guaranteed)

If we kept him, we wouldn't be able to use the entire MLE (assuming we kept our FRP and signed him) this off-season without going into the tax.

Unless you make an additional deal I suppose. (Siakam to Sacramento?)

[tecumseh18]

Does a Horford for Dragic swap make sense?

I am not sure how Boston values (or doesn't value) Horford so I cant comment on value.

The challenge is Dragic makes 19m and Horford makes 27m;
You could potentially tack Bouchers (7m) expiring on there to get close but it may put us in the tax.

The other issues is Horford makes 26.5m next season (14.5m guaranteed)

If we kept him, we wouldn't be able to use the entire MLE (assuming we kept our FRP and signed him) this off-season without going into the tax.

Oh, with Horford or some sort of legit stretch C on board, we'd be going into the tax. The Raps are one Horford and one flamethrower off the bench away from being a legit contender next season, when Scottie levels up.

[tecumseh18]

Does a Horford for Dragic swap make sense?

I am not sure how Boston values (or doesn't value) Horford so I cant comment on value.

The challenge is Dragic makes 19m and Horford makes 27m;
You could potentially tack Bouchers (7m) expiring on there to get close but it may put us in the tax.

The other issues is Horford makes 26.5m next season (14.5m guaranteed)

If we kept him, we wouldn't be able to use the entire MLE (assuming we kept our FRP and signed him) this off-season without going into the tax.

Unless you make an additional deal I suppose. (Siakam to Sacramento?)

I get that this is hard for Celtics fans to understand, but Pascal is really good. The smart members of this fanbase appreciate his value.

[KL78192020]

Tyus Jones remains on my wish list. Exactly the type of player we need coming off the bench right now.

Depending on how the draft goes and how we address the five;
Jones who is a UFA is the type of guy you maybe consider chasing with some of the MLE?

I would go after this guy the Suns messed up lol.

Last four games for Jalen Smith in Phoenix:

- 16 PPG
- 10.5 RPG

Because his 3rd year team option was declined, the most that Phoenix or an acquiring team can sign him for is $4.67M.

The first top 10 pick not to have his 3rd year option exercised since Joe Alexander (2009).

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2022/1/4/22867145/phoenix-suns-jalen-smith-predicament-should-they-keep-him-or-deal-him

[Ell Curry]

Does a Horford for Dragic swap make sense?

I am not sure how Boston values (or doesn't value) Horford so I cant comment on value.

The challenge is Dragic makes 19m and Horford makes 27m;
You could potentially tack Bouchers (7m) expiring on there to get close but it may put us in the tax.

The other issues is Horford makes 26.5m next season (14.5m guaranteed)

If we kept him, we wouldn't be able to use the entire MLE (assuming we kept our FRP and signed him) this off-season without going into the tax.

I'd be interested to see an MLE breakdown for this summer. Devincenzo, Portis, Mitchell Robinson, Rubio, Schroeder, Bagley and Jalen Smith all look like decent fits for how we play and fits as either a solid backup to Van Vleet or a potential starting 5.