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Post#961 » by bballsparkin » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:47 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:I'm not sure why they didn't just pay Brunson tbh.

Anyway, I think John Collins could be a good target for them. The issue with Dallas is they really don't have much value to offer.


Yeah, not paying Brunson is bizarre considering the Mavs lack of options. Did they not believe he was worth the money? Did Brunson's agent make it clear that he was going to the Knicks no matter?
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Post#962 » by Kurtz » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:48 pm

I'm eyeing Sacramento in a potential trade, specifically Davion Mitchell. I think he'll be a Marcus Smart- level defender, but he's not getting any pt down there playing behind Fox. Nick would love him.
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Post#963 » by Kurtz » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:49 pm

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Rapsfan07 wrote:I'm not sure why they didn't just pay Brunson tbh.

Anyway, I think John Collins could be a good target for them. The issue with Dallas is they really don't have much value to offer.


Yeah, not paying Brunson is bizarre considering the Mavs lack of options. Did they not believe he was worth the money? Did Brunson's agent make it clear that he was going to the Knicks no matter?


There were reports that Brunson was unhappy as he wanted to have the ball in his hands. It's not easy fitting in with Luka, although either Trent or FVV would be good fits with him imo.
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Post#964 » by bballsparkin » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:49 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Just getting word...

Just got word too


I heard Masai and Silver just finished a wink wink handshake. Wemby is all but a sure thing.
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Post#965 » by Sandman88 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:51 pm

Kurtz wrote:I'm eyeing Sacramento in a potential trade, specifically Davion Mitchell. I think he'll be a Marcus Smart- level defender, but he's not getting any pt down there playing behind Fox. Nick would love him.

Would love to snag Murray and Mitchell from the Beam Team. I’ll drive OG to Pearson and even throw in a bag of unopened Doritos from my pantry
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Post#966 » by bballsparkin » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:52 pm

Kurtz wrote:
There were reports that Brunson was unhappy as he wanted to have the ball in his hands. It's not easy fitting in with Luka, although either Trent or FVV would be good fits with him imo.


That makes sense. I read on here someone saying Doncic's usage is off the charts. I'd imagine the appeal of the NY market was appealing to Jalen too.
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Post#967 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:53 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Tonight is a big game


I don't see how...

Why would a single game sway anything especially when the last one should've told you as a franchise everything you need to know about the ceiling of the team?! Nevermind the loss to the Hawks without Trae...

Whatever they're waiting on apparently has no tie in to the draft. It all appears to be an indecisive waiting game/as they love to deem evaluation period. For some odd reason they seem to be hinging the Raptors entire future on the next month of games DESPITE the fact they can completely blow this year's MAJOR opportunity to add a GREAT piece this year in the draft.

They're running up the offers which I don't agree with because unless the potential they're getting back is GREATER THAN that of a high draft pick in a loaded draft, then they fought back & forth over a nickel when they may be sitting on what could be a dollar or at worst a quarter but odds are the potential is greater with a high pick than whatever it is you're getting from a Fred or Gary trade who are the 2 guys MOST likely to be moved.

The crazy thing though, is all the rumours of what OUR team has been after are all upgrades (particularily at C) which is even worse because then to me they're just doubling down on a flawed hand.
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Post#968 » by Kurtz » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:53 pm

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Kurtz wrote:I'm eyeing Sacramento in a potential trade, specifically Davion Mitchell. I think he'll be a Marcus Smart- level defender, but he's not getting any pt down there playing behind Fox. Nick would love him.

Would love to snag Murray and Mitchell from the Beam Team. I’ll drive OG to Pearson and even throw in a bag of unopened Doritos from my pantry


Hell, Richaun Holmes would be our best centre. Lots of pieces down there that fit us and vice-versa.
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Post#969 » by mtcan » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:57 pm

Read on Twitter

A headline like this is targeted at a few select teams:
Sacramento - Davion Mitchell and Keegan Murray

New Orleans - Dyson Daniels, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones

OKC (they ain't tanking anymore!!) - Ousmane Dieng, Jalen Williams, Chet (can't imagine he's available lol)

Portland - Shaedon Sharpe, Anfernee Simons

Golden State - Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody, James Wiseman

I can't think of any other teams that would have what the Raptors are looking for.
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Post#970 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:58 pm

Sandman88 wrote:
Kurtz wrote:I'm eyeing Sacramento in a potential trade, specifically Davion Mitchell. I think he'll be a Marcus Smart- level defender, but he's not getting any pt down there playing behind Fox. Nick would love him.

Would love to snag Murray and Mitchell from the Beam Team. I’ll drive OG to Pearson and even throw in a bag of unopened Doritos from my pantry


Oh hell nah lol we don't need to get smaller on the wings and you basically split OG into 2 players. A decent shooter with a high level defender. Trading a toonie for two loonies lol

If OG gets traded there has to be a young player with clear all-star potential coming back, Murray will be VERY solid but he's not THAT. Not to mention compounding the costs of having to retain 2 players vs 1.
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Post#971 » by bballsparkin » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:59 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Tonight is a big game


I don't see how...

Why would a single game sway anything especially when the last one should've told you as a franchise everything you need to know about the ceiling of the team?! Nevermind the loss to the Hawks without Trae...

Whatever they're waiting on apparently has no tie in to the draft. It all appears to be an indecisive waiting game/as they love to deem evaluation period. For some odd reason they seem to be hinging the Raptors entire future on the next month of games DESPITE the fact they can completely blow this year's MAJOR opportunity to add a GREAT piece this year in the draft.

They're running up the offers which I don't agree with because unless the potential they're getting back is GREATER THAN that of a high draft pick in a loaded draft, then they fought back & forth over a nickel when they may be sitting on what could be a dollar or at worst a quarter but odds are the potential is greater with a high pick than whatever it is you're getting from a Fred or Gary trade who are the 2 guys MOST likely to be moved.

The crazy thing though, is all the rumours of what OUR team has been after are all upgrades (particularily at C) which is even worse because then to me they're just doubling down on a flawed hand.


It's a huge game for the Wolves who are sitting at 10th and behind the Thunder. Wow, that trade is looking bad. Hopefully some of those rumours are simply posturing by the FO. Three wins separate the Raps and Pacers/LAC. Tankathon position 7-15. I'd say it's a pretty dang big game.
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Post#972 » by bape_lovers » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:00 pm

Sooo,who would that be? Are we going to do full circle when that player gets an extension? Don’t understand the logic. why not just pay GTJR when he has the upside already

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bape_lovers wrote:trent 2.0? who is that?

WuTang_OG wrote:
Ideally u get trent 2.0 from two yrs ago and a pick and filler


2nd/third year players with upside. Trent was a value play at 21 deadline. Raps could look to find another.
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Post#973 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:00 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Tonight is a big game


I don't see how...

Why would a single game sway anything especially when the last one should've told you as a franchise everything you need to know about the ceiling of the team?! Nevermind the loss to the Hawks without Trae...

Whatever they're waiting on apparently has no tie in to the draft. It all appears to be an indecisive waiting game/as they love to deem evaluation period. For some odd reason they seem to be hinging the Raptors entire future on the next month of games DESPITE the fact they can completely blow this year's MAJOR opportunity to add a GREAT piece this year in the draft.

They're running up the offers which I don't agree with because unless the potential they're getting back is GREATER THAN that of a high draft pick in a loaded draft, then they fought back & forth over a nickel when they may be sitting on what could be a dollar or at worst a quarter but odds are the potential is greater with a high pick than whatever it is you're getting from a Fred or Gary trade who are the 2 guys MOST likely to be moved.

The crazy thing though, is all the rumours of what OUR team has been after are all upgrades (particularily at C) which is even worse because then to me they're just doubling down on a flawed hand.


Because with what you said - rumours of us doubling down. Another loss just before Boston, gives us a nice 3 game losing streak. It will make it a lot harder for this FO to double down when we have a record of 23-33 rather than 27-29 come the deadline.
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Post#974 » by tecumseh18 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:01 pm

bballsparkin wrote:
Sandman88 wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Just getting word...

Just got word too


I heard Masai and Silver just finished a wink wink handshake. Wemby is all but a sure thing.


It'll be fun to watch Fred and Pascal win another ring with the Lakers - in the afterglow of the draft lottery.

But only on the assumption that we buy out Russ and P-Bev IMMEDIATELY, if not sooner. I cannot countenance either of those bozos playing a minute on the Raptors.
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Post#975 » by Harold_and_Kumar » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:01 pm

Kurtz wrote:
Sandman88 wrote:
Kurtz wrote:I'm eyeing Sacramento in a potential trade, specifically Davion Mitchell. I think he'll be a Marcus Smart- level defender, but he's not getting any pt down there playing behind Fox. Nick would love him.

Would love to snag Murray and Mitchell from the Beam Team. I’ll drive OG to Pearson and even throw in a bag of unopened Doritos from my pantry


Hell, Richaun Holmes would be our best centre. Lots of pieces down there that fit us and vice-versa.


Yea, they're a good trade partner and have incentive to win-now, after so many years of failure.

Ideally you get a few picks from 2025-2027 throw in as well for their inevitable collapse into mediocrity after Vivek decides to blow it all up for the next guy in the draft who rocks.
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Post#976 » by Yeezus_ » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:01 pm

mtcan wrote:
Read on Twitter

A headline like this is targeted at a few select teams:
Sacramento - Davion Mitchell and Keegan Murray

New Orleans - Dyson Daniels, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones

OKC (they ain't tanking anymore!!) - Ousmane Dieng, Jalen Williams, Chet (can't imagine he's available lol)

Portland - Shaedon Sharpe, Anfernee Simons

Golden State - Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody, James Wiseman

I can't think of any other teams that would have what the Raptors are looking for.

lol this is from the report Doug Smith shared isn't it? I don't think he knows anything.
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Post#977 » by Lord_Zedd » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:01 pm

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Rapsfan07 wrote:I'm not sure why they didn't just pay Brunson tbh.

Anyway, I think John Collins could be a good target for them. The issue with Dallas is they really don't have much value to offer.


Yeah, not paying Brunson is bizarre considering the Mavs lack of options. Did they not believe he was worth the money? Did Brunson's agent make it clear that he was going to the Knicks no matter?


There were reports that Brunson was unhappy as he wanted to have the ball in his hands. It's not easy fitting in with Luka, although either Trent or FVV would be good fits with him imo.


Mavs also horribly overplayed their hand with Brunson's extension talks. Brunson was willing to sign a 4yr $55 million once he became eligible last season, but Dallas didn't offer a contract. Once Dallas realized they made a huge mistake during the season and offered one, it was too late. Brunson's value shot up big time.
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Post#978 » by DelAbbot » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:02 pm

mtcan wrote:
Read on Twitter

A headline like this is targeted at a few select teams:
Sacramento - Davion Mitchell and Keegan Murray

New Orleans - Dyson Daniels, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones

OKC (they ain't tanking anymore!!) - Ousmane Dieng, Jalen Williams, Chet (can't imagine he's available lol)

Portland - Shaedon Sharpe, Anfernee Simons

Golden State - Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody, James Wiseman

I can't think of any other teams that would have what the Raptors are looking for.


Looks like some very realistic trade proposals for OG. I'm going to miss OG so much........

but can't wait to rip off the Queens for Davion Mitchell, Keegan Murray and a FRP for OG
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Post#979 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:04 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:The Pelicans make a TON of sense actually.

The West is WIDE OPEN right now, Zion's health might be the most uncertain thing in the league, it's up & down right now & as he gets older, just naturally puts on more weight....good luck is all I'll say PLUS you have an aging CJ that is at his most valuable as a player NOW. If they REALLY want to give themselves a REAL chance to win a ring, it's NOW (as within 2-3 years tops imo). They can't wait on all these young guys to develop imo. I'm sorry to say it but I'll be truly SHOCKED if Zion makes through his next contract mainly healthy but I definitely don't see him making it through the next when the MAN body has kicked in, those knees aren't taking those anvils on the knees game in, game out. So point being, I think think they have a 2-3 year window, they're in the 1st year RIGHT NOW). You get Zion & BI their version of Marcus Smart, Jrue Holiday, Andrew Wiggins etc...you give your team a REAL shot to win right now at probably the greatest odds you're team will ever have. If they wait on their young guys, in a 2-3 years, Zion's knees are probably shot & CJ is just OLD lol. If I were them I'd honestly be open to a package involving Daniels with one of the LAL pick or Trey Murphy + their pick (and one other non LAL future with either package) as the headliner for OG.

I could see MEM & POR him loving him too but I don't think MEM has a package quite enticing enough & POR will want to keep one of their SGs (my guess is now Sharpe since his ceiling is higher) but Simons imo isn't the solution due to his crappy defence. He's a GREAT offensive weapon but not quite a SPECIAL one where it can outweigh the defensive woes. He's more Jordan Poole than prime James Harden so I'd pass on him. I'm one of the few that would just be fairly happy with getting Sharpe in some collection of other players because I think his potential level is something like Mitchell. But I know it's all just potential at the moment so Raps would likely (as they did) want to push for more picks. I'm not sure what POR can offer & I'm not sure now that they've seen Sharpe up close for an extended period of time & looking how far off POR seems to be from really contending that they'll even want to give up that potential when will they truly be contenders if post OG trade?! Not sure, I think they could make a WCF but I'd be surprised if they actually made the Finals. OG would put MEM over the top if they could still hold onto Ja, Bane & JJJ but I don't like what's left that much and of course their picks would be garbage.

Really though any team that has a talented SCORING duo would LOVE to have OG right across the league.

Memphis with Brooks coming back would get my ears perked up. Sharpe would probably be the starting point for our ask in POR.

NO could make sense for either GTJ or OG, would they want to go there though.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#980 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:04 pm

bape_lovers wrote:Sooo,who would that be? Are we going to do full circle when that player gets an extension? Don’t understand the logic. why not just pay GTJR when he has the upside already

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bape_lovers wrote:trent 2.0? who is that?



2nd/third year players with upside. Trent was a value play at 21 deadline. Raps could look to find another.


Because he's going to command $25M/year. There's a cap involved. We likely don't tie ourselves with that kind of contract when we have a losing record, future extensions for OG/Siakam. All reports suggest they will move him - I am just pointing out their logic on it / who they will likely target.

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