2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

C_Money · Post #961 » by **C_Money** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:22 pm

Smalltown wrote:
deeps6x wrote:that Ware, if the motor rumors are false

Really not rumours though. If you watched games last year you could see it and it was infuriating to watch. You'd watch 5 minutes and think "damn, this guy is a top 3 pick" and then he'd absolutely disappear. If, big if, he can mature and play all the minutes he's given - he's no doubt pick.

Even without the motor problems I’m not a fan of him. I think he’ll be a career backup C.

PoundTown · Post #962 » by **PoundTown** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:27 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
GSW arent even in the tax this year.

they need to make decisions on CP3 and Klay

CP3 is gone unless they are going all in on a star, in which case they are better off counting on wiggins to bounce back.

Wonder what it would take to get Heat to bite on a Jimmy for CP3 type trade. Moody, Podz, and a 1st?

OAKLEY_2 · Post #963 » by **OAKLEY_2** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:56 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
The Raps wanted to convey. They didn't want to go into next season with 3 rookies (hence masai's comments and them trading the okc pick. They would absolutely want a 25' pick over another 24' pick, which is likely why Brown wasn't dealt last deadline. This draft is another opportunity to use our flexibility to take on a contract, deal Brown and get a 25' pick. If they strike out, they strike out, but that should be 100% the focus

No, they literally tanked as hard as any team could to get as high a slot as possible to keep the pick. They would just sell off a later pick if they retained their own pick this year. This was a bad outcome, and so the company line is weak. Not many here are buying it.

Naw the team wanted to give it up. Better class next year and the team now owns their future with the obligation now complete. Nothing was going to change with 4 starters out due to injury and personal issues.

Masai's quote was they'd be content either way but if keeping it then that is why tanking hard was tried. They hedged their bets on best talent if they were to keep it.

deeps6x · Post #964 » by **deeps6x** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:11 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
The Raps wanted to convey. They didn't want to go into next season with 3 rookies (hence masai's comments and them trading the okc pick. They would absolutely want a 25' pick over another 24' pick, which is likely why Brown wasn't dealt last deadline. This draft is another opportunity to use our flexibility to take on a contract, deal Brown and get a 25' pick. If they strike out, they strike out, but that should be 100% the focus

No, they literally tanked as hard as any team could to get as high a slot as possible to keep the pick. They would just sell off a later pick if they retained their own pick this year. This was a bad outcome, and so the company line is weak. Not many here are buying it.

Naw the team wanted to give it up. Better class next year and the team now owns their future with the obligation now complete. Nothing was going to change with 4 starters out due to injury and personal issues.

WTF? Of course they wanted to keep the pick. The mega tank was proof of that. But that said, they wanted to keep it in the hope that they would luck out and move even higher. Nobody would be complaining if we would have wound up with a top 3 pick.

That said, giving up #8, and probably winding up with a lottery pick next summer isn't a bad thing. The next two drafts should be stacked, and deep.

WuTang_CMB · Post #965 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:15 pm

deeps6x wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
No, they literally tanked as hard as any team could to get as high a slot as possible to keep the pick. They would just sell off a later pick if they retained their own pick this year. This was a bad outcome, and so the company line is weak. Not many here are buying it.

Naw the team wanted to give it up. Better class next year and the team now owns their future with the obligation now complete. Nothing was going to change with 4 starters out due to injury and personal issues.

That said, giving up #8, and probably winding up with a lottery pick next summer isn't a bad thing. The next two drafts should be stacked, and deep.

Which is why they wanted to give it up this year.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #966 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:27 pm

Read on Twitter

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deeps6x · Post #967 » by **deeps6x** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:47 pm

Starting to play around with this:
https://espnanalytics.com/nba-draft-sim/

Grew · Post #968 » by **Grew** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:56 pm

Best sim I've gotten had devin carter drop to 19 and tyler smith drop to 31

Pericles · Post #969 » by **Pericles** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:59 pm

Anyone think the Daron Holmes III promise is from us?

BoyzNTheHood · Post #970 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:02 pm

Grew wrote:Best sim I've gotten had devin carter drop to 19 and tyler smith drop to 31

I just got Ware and Tyson

SpezNc · Post #971 » by **SpezNc** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:11 pm

RoteSchroder wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
Completely disagree. We are a team that wants to develop players. Get some more draft picks and develop them.

We ditched our other 24' pick for a reason. They don't want 3 rookies next season as Masai admitted. 25' better quality draft across the board. If opportunity is there, you jump on that.

If the Spurs pick didn’t convert, we’d have 3 picks.

There’s nothing wrong with developing multiple young players at a time, we can strategize picking a mix of win-now prospects and players that need to be developed. If there are too many young players, just drop scrubs like Nwora, McDaniels or JFL who were still trying to develop for some reason.

Price for 2025 picks will be high. It’s better to buy low, not buy high.

I think that one of the reason we trade a FRP at the deadline is that Masai really didn’t want to have 4 picks in the top31 coming in the draft.

I still does not think that he wants three rookies either (I think 1-2 is the comfort zone) but I am wondering if that position could be revisited at the draft .

SpezNc · Post #972 » by **SpezNc** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:15 pm

Pericles wrote:Anyone think the Daron Holmes III promise is from us?

I don’t know . I haven’t seen any noise about us being either interested or not interested in Holmes II.

I guess anything is possible

But the rumours about a promise was more in the back end of the first round .

Jcity08 · Post #973 » by **Jcity08** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:20 pm

Grew wrote:Best sim I've gotten had devin carter drop to 19 and tyler smith drop to 31

I got Edey at 19 and Kyshawn at 31, highly unlikely it happens that way in the real draft but a mighty, mighty fine haul if I do say so myself.

WuTang_CMB · Post #974 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:20 pm

Somehow got mccain to drop to 19 back go back

grant101 · Post #975 » by **grant101** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:23 pm

Pericles wrote:Anyone think the Daron Holmes III promise is from us?

There's a chance. Apparently we had promised Bufkin last year (which fell apart when Gradey fell)

alpngso · Post #976 » by **alpngso** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:30 pm

Pericles wrote:Anyone think the Daron Holmes III promise is from us?

heard OKC like him. fits their mold. can dribble pass and shoot

LoveMyRaps · Post #977 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:31 pm

deeps6x wrote:Starting to play around with this:
https://espnanalytics.com/nba-draft-sim/

This is fun.

Was tempted to grab Edey but went with Collier with #19

Bona with #31

Psubs · Post #978 » by **Psubs** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:31 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:

Read on Twitter
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He might be as good as Cooper Flagg.

Ace Bailey should be the 2025 1st pick.

pharring · Post #979 » by **pharring** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:47 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=iDergfyDJveIq9pY2qCCBQ

Not trying to be Mr. Picky, but he's only 6'10 while wearing 1.25-inch heels...

I love Givony and have been a follower of Draft Express for years (before it migrated to ESPN), but I also think his posts/updates can be overly skewed by agent-based input/feedback.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #980 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:51 pm

pharring wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=iDergfyDJveIq9pY2qCCBQ

Not trying to be Mr. Picky, but he's only 6'10 while wearing 1.25-inch heels...

I love Givony and have been a follower of Draft Express for years (before it migrated to ESPN), but I also think his posts/updates can be overly skewed by agent-based input/feedback.

For me Givony sold out long ago and he’s basically just a guy I’ll occasionally check in on for info on prospects, but for me this tweet is more about Buzelis. I think he’s the best prospect the Ignite have ever produced, including Jalen Green. Green blows him out of the water talent wise, but I’m looking at projected productivity.