ImageImageImageImageImage

2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

Moderators: DG88, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, lebron stopper, HiJiNX, 7 Footer, Morris_Shatford

User avatar
Thaddy
Head Coach
Posts: 6,637
And1: 3,858
Joined: Dec 12, 2022

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#961 » by Thaddy » Mon Apr 7, 2025 8:12 pm

youngRAPZ wrote:
Thaddy wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:Twin Tower lineup? lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Mogbo has comparable length to Bam.

lol Bam can’t be part of a “twin tower” lineup. The nickname was given to Duncan and Robinson because they were both over 7’ tall. Bam and Mogbo are no where near 7’ what are you even talking about sir?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Duncan and Robinson couldn't play SF like these guys can, that's why I added the word "hidden". If you have 3 players with the same measurements as Bam to the 5, 4, and 3 it would have a good outcome on the defense.
Tripod
RealGM
Posts: 12,330
And1: 11,871
Joined: Aug 13, 2021
 

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#962 » by Tripod » Mon Apr 7, 2025 10:14 pm

No.need to overreact over Mogbo having 1 good game. Dude still needs lots of 905 time next year
youngRAPZ
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,284
And1: 1,032
Joined: Mar 17, 2011

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#963 » by youngRAPZ » Mon Apr 7, 2025 10:31 pm

Thaddy wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:
Thaddy wrote:Mogbo has comparable length to Bam.

lol Bam can’t be part of a “twin tower” lineup. The nickname was given to Duncan and Robinson because they were both over 7’ tall. Bam and Mogbo are no where near 7’ what are you even talking about sir?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Duncan and Robinson couldn't play SF like these guys can, that's why I added the word "hidden". If you have 3 players with the same measurements as Bam to the 5, 4, and 3 it would have a good outcome on the defense.

That’s fine I’m not debating that I’m just saying the TERM “TWIN TOWERS” refers to having two 7 footers or near 7footers playing the 5 and 4. Twin towers have nothing to do with the sf spot as far as I know.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
Thaddy
Head Coach
Posts: 6,637
And1: 3,858
Joined: Dec 12, 2022

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#964 » by Thaddy » Mon Apr 7, 2025 10:44 pm

youngRAPZ wrote:
Thaddy wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:lol Bam can’t be part of a “twin tower” lineup. The nickname was given to Duncan and Robinson because they were both over 7’ tall. Bam and Mogbo are no where near 7’ what are you even talking about sir?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Duncan and Robinson couldn't play SF like these guys can, that's why I added the word "hidden". If you have 3 players with the same measurements as Bam to the 5, 4, and 3 it would have a good outcome on the defense.

That’s fine I’m not debating that I’m just saying the TERM “TWIN TOWERS” refers to having two 7 footers or near 7footers playing the 5 and 4. Twin towers have nothing to do with the sf spot as far as I know.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You don't block shots with your forehead.
Tripod
RealGM
Posts: 12,330
And1: 11,871
Joined: Aug 13, 2021
 

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#965 » by Tripod » Mon Apr 7, 2025 11:23 pm

Thaddy wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:
Thaddy wrote:Duncan and Robinson couldn't play SF like these guys can, that's why I added the word "hidden". If you have 3 players with the same measurements as Bam to the 5, 4, and 3 it would have a good outcome on the defense.

That’s fine I’m not debating that I’m just saying the TERM “TWIN TOWERS” refers to having two 7 footers or near 7footers playing the 5 and 4. Twin towers have nothing to do with the sf spot as far as I know.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You don't block shots with your forehead.

Or you could just say you were wrong. It's OK to say that.

But we saw recently that's not your way. Instead you double down.
User avatar
Thaddy
Head Coach
Posts: 6,637
And1: 3,858
Joined: Dec 12, 2022

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#966 » by Thaddy » Tue Apr 8, 2025 7:26 am

Tripod wrote:
Thaddy wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:That’s fine I’m not debating that I’m just saying the TERM “TWIN TOWERS” refers to having two 7 footers or near 7footers playing the 5 and 4. Twin towers have nothing to do with the sf spot as far as I know.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You don't block shots with your forehead.

Or you could just say you were wrong. It's OK to say that.

But we saw recently that's not your way. Instead you double down.

If you have 3 guys with Bam like athleticism and reach you're interior defense will be very good. It's not a traditional twin towers line up but it's just as, if not more, effective.
youngRAPZ
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,284
And1: 1,032
Joined: Mar 17, 2011

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#967 » by youngRAPZ » Tue Apr 8, 2025 11:20 am

Thaddy wrote:
Tripod wrote:
Thaddy wrote:You don't block shots with your forehead.

Or you could just say you were wrong. It's OK to say that.

But we saw recently that's not your way. Instead you double down.

If you have 3 guys with Bam like athleticism and reach you're interior defense will be very good. It's not a traditional twin towers line up but it's just as, if not more, effective.

lol this guy is something else. It’s not a twin tower lineup at all just say you’re originally a hockey fan and move on!
User avatar
Thaddy
Head Coach
Posts: 6,637
And1: 3,858
Joined: Dec 12, 2022

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#968 » by Thaddy » Tue Apr 8, 2025 11:52 am

youngRAPZ wrote:
Thaddy wrote:
Tripod wrote:Or you could just say you were wrong. It's OK to say that.

But we saw recently that's not your way. Instead you double down.

If you have 3 guys with Bam like athleticism and reach you're interior defense will be very good. It's not a traditional twin towers line up but it's just as, if not more, effective.

lol this guy is something else. It’s not a twin tower lineup at all just say you’re originally a hockey fan and move on!

You're going after my basketball knowledge and analyst ability because you don't understand that height is a redundancy? I added the word "hidden" for a reason it means it was be a stealthy big line up.

Length matters more than height. Having high hips affects laterally mobility. Mogbos low center of gravity and massive wingspan is why he's already a great defender by NBA standards.

If you have 3 Mogbo ish sized players on the court it would give the same overall length than a twin tower line up would.

A hypothetical front court of Aldama and Newell compared to Bam and Mogbo would be a good example. The priors are 7 footers but the later have better standing reaches.
youngRAPZ
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,284
And1: 1,032
Joined: Mar 17, 2011

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#969 » by youngRAPZ » Tue Apr 8, 2025 11:59 am

Thaddy wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:
Thaddy wrote:If you have 3 guys with Bam like athleticism and reach you're interior defense will be very good. It's not a traditional twin towers line up but it's just as, if not more, effective.

lol this guy is something else. It’s not a twin tower lineup at all just say you’re originally a hockey fan and move on!

You're going after my basketball knowledge and analyst ability because you don't understand that height is a redundancy? I added the word "hidden" for a reason it means it was be a stealthy big line up.

Length matters more than height. Having high hips affects laterally mobility. Mogbos low center of gravity and massive wingspan is why he's already a great defender by NBA standards.

If you have 3 Mogbo ish sized players on the court it would give the same overall length than a twin tower line up would.

A hypothetical front court of Aldama and Newell compared to Bam and Mogbo would be a good example. The priors are 7 footers but the later have better standing reaches.

You keep talking bout a 3 man lineup and then call it a “twin” tower lineup. Why not just make your own nickname up by plagiarizing and call it the Triplet Hidden Towers.

You win brother I surrender. :lol:
Tripod
RealGM
Posts: 12,330
And1: 11,871
Joined: Aug 13, 2021
 

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#970 » by Tripod » Wed Apr 9, 2025 1:24 pm

Goga is barely playing now for Orlando-DNP last night. Is there any deal out there where we could grab him to back up Yak the next 2 years? Only makes 8 next year, 7 the following.

Yak re-signing most likely
Goga solid backup and can step in if Yak injured
Re-sign ORob as our #3 for 1 year
Chomche on 905...replaces ORob following year
Seems like nice solid depth

For Orlando, he isn't playing now and they have Wagner coming back from injury for next year.
User avatar
Psubs
RealGM
Posts: 20,787
And1: 11,885
Joined: Nov 20, 2004
Location: Toronto

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#971 » by Psubs » Wed Apr 9, 2025 1:42 pm

Tripod wrote:Goga is barely playing now for Orlando-DNP last night. Is there any deal out there where we could grab him to back up Yak the next 2 years? Only makes 8 next year, 7 the following.

Yak re-signing most likely
Goga solid backup and can step in if Yak injured
Re-sign ORob as our #3 for 1 year
Chomche on 905...replaces ORob following year
Seems like nice solid depth

For Orlando, he isn't playing now and they have Wagner coming back from injury for next year.


Ochai Agbaji for Goga. :nod:

Ochai can replace Gary Harris, who's team option would be declined.
Image
Tripod
RealGM
Posts: 12,330
And1: 11,871
Joined: Aug 13, 2021
 

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#972 » by Tripod » Wed Apr 9, 2025 2:13 pm

Psubs wrote:
Tripod wrote:Goga is barely playing now for Orlando-DNP last night. Is there any deal out there where we could grab him to back up Yak the next 2 years? Only makes 8 next year, 7 the following.

Yak re-signing most likely
Goga solid backup and can step in if Yak injured
Re-sign ORob as our #3 for 1 year
Chomche on 905...replaces ORob following year
Seems like nice solid depth

For Orlando, he isn't playing now and they have Wagner coming back from injury for next year.


Ochai Agbaji for Goga. :nod:

After posting, I looked more into it...what about:

Ochai + Gradey for Goga + 16 + future 2nd

At 7 we pick Tre- top 4+ Queen and Fears gone
At 16 pick Bryant
At 39 extra depth-play in 905-Target PG or C
Re-sign Boucher + Temple vet min(great teacher)
Resign ORob-2way

IQ RJ BI Barnes Yak
Shead Walter Tre Bryant Goga
Temple Battle Boucher ORob
Mogbo +39 in 905 with Rhoden and Chomche on 2-ways

Lots of playable depth when injuries occur. Battle and Boucher can be 2nd unit guys if rookies struggle or when injuries occur. We will likely RARELY have a full healthy roster so minutes will be there.
User avatar
PhilBlackson
RealGM
Posts: 31,805
And1: 46,539
Joined: May 02, 2017
Location: No Wastemans Land
     

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#973 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:39 am

Tripod wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Tripod wrote:Goga is barely playing now for Orlando-DNP last night. Is there any deal out there where we could grab him to back up Yak the next 2 years? Only makes 8 next year, 7 the following.

Yak re-signing most likely
Goga solid backup and can step in if Yak injured
Re-sign ORob as our #3 for 1 year
Chomche on 905...replaces ORob following year
Seems like nice solid depth

For Orlando, he isn't playing now and they have Wagner coming back from injury for next year.


Ochai Agbaji for Goga. :nod:

After posting, I looked more into it...what about:

Ochai + Gradey for Goga + 16 + future 2nd

At 7 we pick Tre- top 4+ Queen and Fears gone
At 16 pick Bryant
At 39 extra depth-play in 905-Target PG or C
Re-sign Boucher + Temple vet min(great teacher)
Resign ORob-2way

IQ RJ BI Barnes Yak
Shead Walter Tre Bryant Goga
Temple Battle Boucher ORob
Mogbo +39 in 905 with Rhoden and Chomche on 2-ways

Lots of playable depth when injuries occur. Battle and Boucher can be 2nd unit guys if rookies struggle or when injuries occur. We will likely RARELY have a full healthy roster so minutes will be there.


Yeah I've been saying for awhile now I'd love to trade Gradey for a mid-1st, imo that's a MUST make move. It would help us plug pretty much every gap in the lineup and we'd honestly be a fairly stacked team after. Carter Bryant would be the dream pickup at 16 but even Fleming would be an amazing fallback.

But I still really do think we're ending up with one of Queen or Maluach (even if some hate it), there's just such an obvious hole there and if anything could make Yak a trade chip for another trade at a later date. So with the POR pick I'd probably just draft Isaiah Evans (who it seems like BI has a friendship with) and then team chemistry is through the roof or Byrd for another high level POA defender. Heck maybe even Drake Powell...

IQ/Shead
RJ/JaKobe/Evans or Powell
Ingram/Bryant/Battle
Barnes/Boucher/Mogbo
Poeltl/Queen or Maluach/Goga

With Lawson, Rhoden, O-Rob as some extra 905 depth for any injuries...that's a hella deep young team.
>>>THENOTORIOUSBI3<<< :guitar: *INGRAM*ALLSTARSEASON* Wemby is HIM - Top 5 Player this year
Image
Names of who OG will be better than Shaedon: DelAbbott, ThaCynic, pingpongrac, Los_29, OakleyDokley
Tripod
RealGM
Posts: 12,330
And1: 11,871
Joined: Aug 13, 2021
 

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#974 » by Tripod » Sat Apr 12, 2025 3:00 am

PhilBlackson wrote:
Tripod wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Ochai Agbaji for Goga. :nod:

After posting, I looked more into it...what about:

Ochai + Gradey for Goga + 16 + future 2nd

At 7 we pick Tre- top 4+ Queen and Fears gone
At 16 pick Bryant
At 39 extra depth-play in 905-Target PG or C
Re-sign Boucher + Temple vet min(great teacher)
Resign ORob-2way

IQ RJ BI Barnes Yak
Shead Walter Tre Bryant Goga
Temple Battle Boucher ORob
Mogbo +39 in 905 with Rhoden and Chomche on 2-ways

Lots of playable depth when injuries occur. Battle and Boucher can be 2nd unit guys if rookies struggle or when injuries occur. We will likely RARELY have a full healthy roster so minutes will be there.


Yeah I've been saying for awhile now I'd love to trade Gradey for a mid-1st, imo that's a MUST make move. It would help us plug pretty much every gap in the lineup and we'd honestly be a fairly stacked team after. Carter Bryant would be the dream pickup at 16 but even Fleming would be an amazing fallback.

But I still really do think we're ending up with one of Queen or Maluach (even if some hate it), there's just such an obvious hole there and if anything could make Yak a trade chip for another trade at a later date. So with the POR pick I'd probably just draft Isaiah Evans (who it seems like BI has a friendship with) and then team chemistry is through the roof or Byrd for another high level POA defender. Heck maybe even Drake Powell...

IQ/Shead
RJ/JaKobe/Evans or Powell
Ingram/Bryant/Battle
Barnes/Boucher/Mogbo
Poeltl/Queen or Maluach/Goga

With Lawson, Rhoden, O-Rob as some extra 905 depth for any injuries...that's a hella deep young team.

It's why I am excited for this offseason.

Adding BI
Adding a top 10 pick(hoping for more obviously)
Then what do we do about the newfound depth
Does RJ stay

We have only a few holes but actually have the means to fill them. I know people love youth, but I think we add a more experienced guy to the lineup.

And I still think Masai does a sneaky trade few expect.

Fingers crossed
causal_fan
Pro Prospect
Posts: 782
And1: 638
Joined: Oct 06, 2021
   

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#975 » by causal_fan » Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:05 pm

Interesting to see what happens with Kuminga this offseason.
Tripod
RealGM
Posts: 12,330
And1: 11,871
Joined: Aug 13, 2021
 

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#976 » by Tripod » Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:41 pm

causal_fan wrote:Interesting to see what happens with Kuminga this offseason.

Wants more money that he has proven he is worth
Raptorfan2012
Head Coach
Posts: 7,025
And1: 4,893
Joined: Mar 25, 2012

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#977 » by Raptorfan2012 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:45 pm

We have too many wings. At least one of Ochai, Gradey, or RJ will be gone this offseason.
User avatar
KillaSham23
Junior
Posts: 457
And1: 331
Joined: Sep 23, 2009
     

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#978 » by KillaSham23 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:07 pm

Will Charlotte take Gradey for Mark Williams? We can argue dick has higher upside than Knecht.
User avatar
BoyzNTheHood
Head Coach
Posts: 7,220
And1: 6,813
Joined: Apr 19, 2015

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#979 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:10 pm

KillaSham23 wrote:Will Charlotte take Gradey for Mark Williams? We can argue dick has higher upside than Knecht.


He's 3 years younger with a years extra experience. I'd say yes.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
djsunyc
RealGM
Posts: 99,689
And1: 73,490
Joined: Dec 28, 2003

Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#980 » by djsunyc » Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:15 pm

Psubs wrote:
Tripod wrote:Goga is barely playing now for Orlando-DNP last night. Is there any deal out there where we could grab him to back up Yak the next 2 years? Only makes 8 next year, 7 the following.

Yak re-signing most likely
Goga solid backup and can step in if Yak injured
Re-sign ORob as our #3 for 1 year
Chomche on 905...replaces ORob following year
Seems like nice solid depth

For Orlando, he isn't playing now and they have Wagner coming back from injury for next year.


Ochai Agbaji for Goga. :nod:

Ochai can replace Gary Harris, who's team option would be declined.


what's the upside with goga? ochai still has some game to unlock. i dont like this proposal.

Return to Toronto Raptors