Tor_Raps wrote:Raptors gets Ayton, Cam, Suns 2029 1st rounder unprotected and 2023 1st rounder protected
Suns get Fred, OG and Poeltl
Spurs get Birch, Suns 2025 1st Rounder protected, Suns 2nd Rounder
You can tweak the above a bit but I think it's decent all around.
I'd rather...
OG for Dyson and/OR (either get him with DD or the pick with either guy) Murphy + LAL 23' (top 2 protected if needed) + salary fillers
FVV + Boucher for Ayton (preferably imo) OR FVV for Cam Johnson + PHX 23' + Crowder (re-directed for MIL's boatload of SRPs)
Dyson
Murphy or LAL pick (or our pick)/GT Jr
Siakam
Barnes/Precious
Ayton
+PLUS our own high 23' (top 10) pick (another potential core piece)
or
Dyson
GT Jr/Johnson
Siakam
Barnes/Precious
+ PLUS our own high 23' (top 6 pick) + LAL 23' + PHX 23' (chance to add an even higher potential likely core player PLUS who knows who's still around the mid-lotto but we'll have a shot to get it right (but some many guys like Booker, Mitchell, Adebayo etc have fallen into that area)
Especially if we got Ayton, I like that "remix" more lol we shouldn't be prone to completely bottom out after this season or subject to a long painful rebuild. But imo that potential new core has a higher ceiling than the existing one AND if Pascal as unwilling to take the super max dollars to give it a chance to develop, well load up even more on the next trade but I think that's a reasonable young core.
But I think OG should be used to bring a young player with greater upside than himself which Pels' assets allow. Not to try & squeeze in one of Cam or Ayton. IMO they win the trade you're suggesting, I think when healthy the guys we'd be giving up impact winning more. So I'm not sure those picks off set much as presumably Fred + OG will solidify PHX as a Playoff team again so that pick is mid-lotto which is the only one you're really gonna "feel" as a fan because during the life of the deal, if you're comparing how those guys are impacting each team, I think it's gonna be a bit of a notch below. I think either PHX package for Fred (Cam + PHX 23' + filler or Ayton) will have a similar effect overall (Ayton being a bit greater but it would cost us more, for me Boucher isn't a big deal) and Dyson or Murphy + protected LAL, gives us a shot or two to bring in another much needed talent boost to actually raise the ceiling higher.