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2023 Draft Discussion Part III

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#981 » by Rapsfan07 » Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:56 am

mtcan wrote:I look at the first round...and I see Leonard Miller rising up the draft board and based on how this front office drafts...he's the pick at 11/12/13...wherever we land.


I've warmed on him, especially if he's a legit wing.

But not in the lottery. He's really good value at #25 or so though.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#982 » by mtcan » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:03 am

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mtcan wrote:I look at the first round...and I see Leonard Miller rising up the draft board and based on how this front office drafts...he's the pick at 11/12/13...wherever we land.


I've warmed on him, especially if he's a legit wing.

But not in the lottery. He's really good value at #25 or so though.

I think he's one of those guys whose measurements and raw talent is going to be hard to pass up on...which will lead to some team taking him in the late lottery.

He's a huge work-in-progress but this is what Masai values...measurements and potential.

I honestly hope we go for a freshman who can already shoot and has the potential to be that Donovan Mitchell/Devin Booker-type. Is that a Keynote George?
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#983 » by ItsDanger » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:34 am

Place a high priority on tough physical players. Too many marshmallows on this team.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#984 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:35 am

ItsDanger wrote:Place a high priority on tough physical players. Too many marshmallows on this team.

Mentally? Our team plays very physical. But mentally, our best player is a midget.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#985 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:41 am

ItsDanger wrote:Place a high priority on tough physical players. Too many marshmallows on this team.


Cason Wallace is both physically and mentally tough as nails and a super high character kid.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#986 » by ItsDanger » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:42 am

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ItsDanger wrote:Place a high priority on tough physical players. Too many marshmallows on this team.

Mentally? Our team plays very physical. But mentally, our best player is a midget.

Both. Caruso is more physical than our regular rotation guys easily.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#987 » by God Squad » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:43 am

OKC up 9 on the Pelicans. So 11 Is within reach?
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#988 » by ItsDanger » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:44 am

God Squad wrote:OKC up 9 on the Pelicans. So 11 Is within reach?

Need Bulls to beat Miami and OKC to beat Minnesota then.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#989 » by God Squad » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:45 am

ItsDanger wrote:
God Squad wrote:OKC up 9 on the Pelicans. So 11 Is within reach?

Need Bulls to beat Miami and OKC to beat Minnesota then.

Sigh..
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#990 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:47 am

ItsDanger wrote:
God Squad wrote:OKC up 9 on the Pelicans. So 11 Is within reach?

Need Bulls to beat Miami and OKC to beat Minnesota then.


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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#991 » by ItsDanger » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:50 am

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ItsDanger wrote:
God Squad wrote:OKC up 9 on the Pelicans. So 11 Is within reach?

Need Bulls to beat Miami and OKC to beat Minnesota then.


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Not great chance but not as remote as you'd think. Miami looks old and tired. TWolves are in shambles mode
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#992 » by Rapsfan07 » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:06 am

mtcan wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
mtcan wrote:I look at the first round...and I see Leonard Miller rising up the draft board and based on how this front office drafts...he's the pick at 11/12/13...wherever we land.


I've warmed on him, especially if he's a legit wing.

But not in the lottery. He's really good value at #25 or so though.

I think he's one of those guys whose measurements and raw talent is going to be hard to pass up on...which will lead to some team taking him in the late lottery.

He's a huge work-in-progress but this is what Masai values...measurements and potential.

I honestly hope we go for a freshman who can already shoot and has the potential to be that Donovan Mitchell/Devin Booker-type. Is that a Keynote George?


It's possible.

IMO, George has the most refined bag in the entirely lottery. Dude has a seriously alluring set of moves, spins, crossovers etc and can seriously shoot the ball.

The issue is he doesn't hit a good clip of them at the college level so it's hard for me to imagine him improving on that in the NBA, where the competition will be bigger, stronger and faster.

I can't think of one perimeter player who's shot that badly in college and became even passable in the NBA.

At this point, I wouldn't draft him. Better to move back and grab guys like Jones, Bufkin, Cissoko, Podziemski. These are all guys mocked to go lower than him that have as good (or better) a chance to be quality NBA players.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#993 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:10 am

If we go through this hell to end up with Leonard Miller just fast forward my life 10 years. He’s decent, but he ain’t it.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#994 » by Bruin » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:29 am

OKC wins. We’re halfway to 11th

Need OKC to beat Minnesota and Chicago to beat Miami
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#995 » by Grew » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:31 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
I've warmed on him, especially if he's a legit wing.

But not in the lottery. He's really good value at #25 or so though.

I think he's one of those guys whose measurements and raw talent is going to be hard to pass up on...which will lead to some team taking him in the late lottery.

He's a huge work-in-progress but this is what Masai values...measurements and potential.

I honestly hope we go for a freshman who can already shoot and has the potential to be that Donovan Mitchell/Devin Booker-type. Is that a Keynote George?


It's possible.

IMO, George has the most refined bag in the entirely lottery. Dude has a seriously alluring set of moves, spins, crossovers etc and can seriously shoot the ball.

The issue is he doesn't hit a good clip of them at the college level so it's hard for me to imagine him improving on that in the NBA, where the competition will be bigger, stronger and faster.

I can't think of one perimeter player who's shot that badly in college and became even passable in the NBA.

At this point, I wouldn't draft him. Better to move back and grab guys like Jones, Bufkin, Cissoko, Podziemski. These are all guys mocked to go lower than him that have as good (or better) a chance to be quality NBA players.


Jaylen Brown is the guy who shot poorly in college but turned out great in the NBA. Might be a couple of these types in this draft. College is a different game, with the way our team is currently I'd rather try and develop a kid who underachieved but has a bag and is in a higher tier of athleticism than someone efficient in college with low upside.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#996 » by Potential » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:31 am

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#997 » by Rapsfan07 » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:58 am

Grew wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
mtcan wrote:I think he's one of those guys whose measurements and raw talent is going to be hard to pass up on...which will lead to some team taking him in the late lottery.

He's a huge work-in-progress but this is what Masai values...measurements and potential.

I honestly hope we go for a freshman who can already shoot and has the potential to be that Donovan Mitchell/Devin Booker-type. Is that a Keynote George?


It's possible.

IMO, George has the most refined bag in the entirely lottery. Dude has a seriously alluring set of moves, spins, crossovers etc and can seriously shoot the ball.

The issue is he doesn't hit a good clip of them at the college level so it's hard for me to imagine him improving on that in the NBA, where the competition will be bigger, stronger and faster.

I can't think of one perimeter player who's shot that badly in college and became even passable in the NBA.

At this point, I wouldn't draft him. Better to move back and grab guys like Jones, Bufkin, Cissoko, Podziemski. These are all guys mocked to go lower than him that have as good (or better) a chance to be quality NBA players.


Jaylen Brown is the guy who shot poorly in college but turned out great in the NBA. Might be a couple of these types in this draft. College is a different game, with the way our team is currently I'd rather try and develop a kid who underachieved but has a bag and is in a higher tier of athleticism than someone efficient in college with low upside.


He shot 43% from the field and 29% from 3. George shot 37% from the field and 34% from 3.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#998 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:58 am

Raps need to hit on this pick, Klay, SGA, Giannis, Kawhi, etc., that's the kind of luck they need drafting in the 11-13 range. Canadian Leonard Miller is intriguing, as are Cissoko and Podziemski
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#999 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:01 am

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Raps need to hit on this pick, Klay, SGA, Giannis, Kawhi, etc., that's the kind of luck they need drafting in the 11-13 range. Canadian Leonard Miller is intriguing, as are Cissoko and Podziemski

There’s a quiet swagger about guys like Klay, SGA, Giannis (sorta, but more goofy), and Kawhi. I don’t see that with Miller. He looks more awkward like Bosh was.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1000 » by Grew » Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:09 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:
Grew wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
It's possible.

IMO, George has the most refined bag in the entirely lottery. Dude has a seriously alluring set of moves, spins, crossovers etc and can seriously shoot the ball.

The issue is he doesn't hit a good clip of them at the college level so it's hard for me to imagine him improving on that in the NBA, where the competition will be bigger, stronger and faster.

I can't think of one perimeter player who's shot that badly in college and became even passable in the NBA.

At this point, I wouldn't draft him. Better to move back and grab guys like Jones, Bufkin, Cissoko, Podziemski. These are all guys mocked to go lower than him that have as good (or better) a chance to be quality NBA players.


Jaylen Brown is the guy who shot poorly in college but turned out great in the NBA. Might be a couple of these types in this draft. College is a different game, with the way our team is currently I'd rather try and develop a kid who underachieved but has a bag and is in a higher tier of athleticism than someone efficient in college with low upside.


He shot 43% from the field and 29% from 3. George shot 37% from the field and 34% from 3.


They both had a 47%eFG with 52%TS
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